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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/12 13:54:59 (permalink)
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/13 07:54:44 (permalink)
Alright thank you but what is this Volta graphics card?
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/13 10:33:00 (permalink)
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Alright thank you but what is this Volta graphics card?

It's the next generation of Nvidia GPU microarchitecture after this one (Pascal).  Some people are waiting for GeForce cards based on it (likely the 11 series) to come out in the next year.

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/13 16:40:22 (permalink)
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Alright thank you but what is this Volta graphics card?

Expensive. 18k a piece and designed for hardcore compute workloads.
They spent about 30% of the space on compute AI specific hardware.
The other changes are mainly around threading and preemption, which don't help gaming that much.


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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/13 16:45:17 (permalink)
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Good review, I just don't understand why reviewers keep saying these cards (SC and FTW3) are "louder" than the Founders Edition. No, they aren't. I own a FTW3 and a Founders Edition. The Founders sounds like a leaf blower at high fan speeds, the FTW3 sounds barely audible, even at 80% for me (which is a non-issue since its cooling performance is so good I never need close to 80% speed). I put my Founders Edition under water with a EVGA Hybrid kit just because of the noise.



I would wonder if it's a noise they find more annoying than others that is made. I have never had a fan that really bugged me but hear all the time people complaining about how it sounds like a leaf blower. Of course I normally game with headphones on so that probably helps a lot with the fans kicking in.

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/15 07:33:59 (permalink)

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/15 13:28:52 (permalink)



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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/27 04:21:06 (permalink)
Whoopee, finally got 1080ti ftw3 ics shipped from Amazon USA. I live in Japan and it's soldout/unavailable here. Amazon were out of stock for a while so I am assuming this one is the second production run? Not that it really matters. Will post impressions after Thursday (estimated delivery date).
 
P.S. The mailing fee was not cheap, but amazingly I still payed a bit less for this that my 1080ftw which I bought in the first round rush where demand out stripped supply. I wasn't ripped off comparing to other sites, but I now realize I paid far too much for my 1080ftw, July last year. Still, it's been a good card no probs, added the thermal kit but not sure if it was really necessary. But it was a great and fun excuse to open the card.
I will NOT be opening my new 1080ti, and shouldn't need to OC it either. (Running 2560x1440p @ 144Hz with G-Sync) Yes, slightly over spec card I guess, but couldn't resist and may try a 4k monitor early next year.

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/05/31 01:01:38 (permalink)
I want the blue edition
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/31 01:03:15 (permalink)
This or strict for me
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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/05/31 13:23:29 (permalink)
I just ordered two 1080 ti FTW3's but I think I'm going to return them and wait on two 1080ti Kingpins

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/01 18:06:04 (permalink)
Well, I've run my card (1080ti ics  ftw3) through a gauntlet of tests. I have the paid versions of 3DMark and more. It's done better than I expected. I may have done well on the silicon lottery too! That's amazing for me as with my 1080 and 980 and other earlier cards my best results were somewhat below average. With this one, while not a "golden chip," I think it's a good one. But maybe it's too early to say that!
 
Another good and surprising thing was after getting fully acquainted with the un-intuitive, but useful Precision xoc I spent quite a while creating a custom curve that suits my mild paranoia about heat, but remains quiet too. (It's no where near the "aggressive," setting, but way above the silent but low speed stock.). After that I gave the secondary slave BIOS a try and amazingly it was a match to my custom one. Seeing as this is the only GPU I have ever had in over 2 decades that I feel no need or desire to overclock (yet!?!) I no longer need to run any background customization programs, and I'm  not worried about the heat. But in peak of summer I may use the latest GPU-Z in background for heat checks from time to time as they have added read outs for the 9 extra heat sensors in the ICS. Good job that. I don't know of any software except for that - and of course Precision than can monitor them all.
 
It's overkill for my 144hz 1440p, but it's also bliss whacking every setting to max in game and in the NVDIA CP without even considering that the game can't handle it. The power of this card really is amazing. My EVGA 1080 FTW was easily good enough for my monitor, but this is what hobbies are all about - and screw the cost, it's my hobby! If anyone says that I wasted my money with a 27" 144hz G-Sync they are wrong. The experience is better. And any such comment can only possibly be written out of furious jealousy. I whole heatedly recommend this particular card, even to those with mid level monitors like mine who already have a 1080, like me.
Seriously, it is just a very pleasant feeling having such a powerful piece of kit. But only hobbyists (me) or the rich (not me) may apply. Heh Heh!!
 
Now, when is Volta coming out?

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/02 12:48:21 (permalink)
This is my first Ti card.  They really do live up to there reputation for being part of PC master race.  EVGA has done a great job with theirs.  Great looks and great cooling with a small footprint, which refers to them being 2 slot.
 
Oh, does anyone know if the FTW3 will be included for the Step-up program, to the K|ngp|n Edition.
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/03 03:08:03 (permalink)
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This is my first Ti card.  They really do live up to there reputation for being part of PC master race.  EVGA has done a great job with theirs.  Great looks and great cooling with a small footprint, which refers to them being 2 slot.
 
Oh, does anyone know if the FTW3 will be included for the Step-up program, to the K|ngp|n Edition.


Fully agree with you! Yes, the two slot size is the icing on the cake! Great card!! Not sure myself about the step-up-program?
But I make sure to fully register, and upload the invoice for all EVGA products I own, even before installing!

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/03 09:34:15 (permalink)
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Well, I've run my card (1080ti ics  ftw3) through a gauntlet of tests. I have the paid versions of 3DMark and more. It's done better than I expected. I may have done well on the silicon lottery too! That's amazing for me as with my 1080 and 980 and other earlier cards my best results were somewhat below average. With this one, while not a "golden chip," I think it's a good one. But maybe it's too early to say that!
 
Another good and surprising thing was after getting fully acquainted with the un-intuitive, but useful Precision xoc I spent quite a while creating a custom curve that suits my mild paranoia about heat, but remains quiet too. (It's no where near the "aggressive," setting, but way above the silent but low speed stock.). After that I gave the secondary slave BIOS a try and amazingly it was a match to my custom one. Seeing as this is the only GPU I have ever had in over 2 decades that I feel no need or desire to overclock (yet!?!) I no longer need to run any background customization programs, and I'm  not worried about the heat. But in peak of summer I may use the latest GPU-Z in background for heat checks from time to time as they have added read outs for the 9 extra heat sensors in the ICS. Good job that. I don't know of any software except for that - and of course Precision than can monitor them all.
 
It's overkill for my 144hz 1440p, but it's also bliss whacking every setting to max in game and in the NVDIA CP without even considering that the game can't handle it. The power of this card really is amazing. My EVGA 1080 FTW was easily good enough for my monitor, but this is what hobbies are all about - and screw the cost, it's my hobby! If anyone says that I wasted my money with a 27" 144hz G-Sync they are wrong. The experience is better. And any such comment can only possibly be written out of furious jealousy. I whole heatedly recommend this particular card, even to those with mid level monitors like mine who already have a 1080, like me.
Seriously, it is just a very pleasant feeling having such a powerful piece of kit. But only hobbyists (me) or the rich (not me) may apply. Heh Heh!!
 
Now, when is Volta coming out?


Are you at 3440x1440 or 2560? What games do you play?

I ask because I have a 3440x1440 100 Hz G Sync Asus monitor and I can't consistently hit 100 Hz on Ultra settings in Battlefield 1 in Multiplayer with a FTW3.

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/03 14:44:21 (permalink)
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Well, I've run my card (1080ti ics  ftw3) through a gauntlet of tests. I have the paid versions of 3DMark and more. It's done better than I expected. I may have done well on the silicon lottery too! That's amazing for me as with my 1080 and 980 and other earlier cards my best results were somewhat below average. With this one, while not a "golden chip," I think it's a good one. But maybe it's too early to say that!
 
Another good and surprising thing was after getting fully acquainted with the un-intuitive, but useful Precision xoc I spent quite a while creating a custom curve that suits my mild paranoia about heat, but remains quiet too. (It's no where near the "aggressive," setting, but way above the silent but low speed stock.). After that I gave the secondary slave BIOS a try and amazingly it was a match to my custom one. Seeing as this is the only GPU I have ever had in over 2 decades that I feel no need or desire to overclock (yet!?!) I no longer need to run any background customization programs, and I'm  not worried about the heat. But in peak of summer I may use the latest GPU-Z in background for heat checks from time to time as they have added read outs for the 9 extra heat sensors in the ICS. Good job that. I don't know of any software except for that - and of course Precision than can monitor them all.
 
It's overkill for my 144hz 1440p, but it's also bliss whacking every setting to max in game and in the NVDIA CP without even considering that the game can't handle it. The power of this card really is amazing. My EVGA 1080 FTW was easily good enough for my monitor, but this is what hobbies are all about - and screw the cost, it's my hobby! If anyone says that I wasted my money with a 27" 144hz G-Sync they are wrong. The experience is better. And any such comment can only possibly be written out of furious jealousy. I whole heatedly recommend this particular card, even to those with mid level monitors like mine who already have a 1080, like me.
Seriously, it is just a very pleasant feeling having such a powerful piece of kit. But only hobbyists (me) or the rich (not me) may apply. Heh Heh!!
 
Now, when is Volta coming out?


Are you at 3440x1440 or 2560? What games do you play?

I ask because I have a 3440x1440 100 Hz G Sync Asus monitor and I can't consistently hit 100 Hz on Ultra settings in Battlefield 1 in Multiplayer with a FTW3.



I am at 2560 which explains it. You already know this no doubt, but the amount of extra work the GPU has to do for 3440 x 1440 is a lot!
 
To be honest, I am not surprised you can't get consistent 100fps on max in BF at your resolution, not even the mighty EVGA FTW3 could do that - consistently.
 
But at 2560 x 1440p, it could manage that with power to spare, I guess. Don't have that game though so can't be certain.
 
Playing Civ 6, late game, menu's totally maxed out with the highest quality settings in the NVCP according to fraps the game stays at 144fps/143fps.
My 1080 ftw which I Oced couldn't manage that at all. Frequent drops to 65 or so. Still great of course, but from that and the other games and benches I have run it's instantly clear the 1080ti is considerably more powerful. At my resolution I would hazard a conservative guess and say it's around 30% more powerful. That also matches the score differences in Firestrike dx11, and timespy dx 12. Amazing card!
 
But BF Ultra MP at consistent 100fps with your pixel packed wide screen - I don't think any single GPU set up could manage that consistently with pascal. Consistently is important though just for interest. I mean I imagine it often goes to 100fps but drops a bit(sometimes for a second or so maybe a big drop) too in heavy action packed scenarios. Is that about right?

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/03 15:07:10 (permalink)
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Well, I've run my card (1080ti ics  ftw3) through a gauntlet of tests. I have the paid versions of 3DMark and more. It's done better than I expected. I may have done well on the silicon lottery too! That's amazing for me as with my 1080 and 980 and other earlier cards my best results were somewhat below average. With this one, while not a "golden chip," I think it's a good one. But maybe it's too early to say that!

Another good and surprising thing was after getting fully acquainted with the un-intuitive, but useful Precision xoc I spent quite a while creating a custom curve that suits my mild paranoia about heat, but remains quiet too. (It's no where near the "aggressive," setting, but way above the silent but low speed stock.). After that I gave the secondary slave BIOS a try and amazingly it was a match to my custom one. Seeing as this is the only GPU I have ever had in over 2 decades that I feel no need or desire to overclock (yet!?!) I no longer need to run any background customization programs, and I'm  not worried about the heat. But in peak of summer I may use the latest GPU-Z in background for heat checks from time to time as they have added read outs for the 9 extra heat sensors in the ICS. Good job that. I don't know of any software except for that - and of course Precision than can monitor them all.

It's overkill for my 144hz 1440p, but it's also bliss whacking every setting to max in game and in the NVDIA CP without even considering that the game can't handle it. The power of this card really is amazing. My EVGA 1080 FTW was easily good enough for my monitor, but this is what hobbies are all about - and screw the cost, it's my hobby! If anyone says that I wasted my money with a 27" 144hz G-Sync they are wrong. The experience is better. And any such comment can only possibly be written out of furious jealousy. I whole heatedly recommend this particular card, even to those with mid level monitors like mine who already have a 1080, like me.
Seriously, it is just a very pleasant feeling having such a powerful piece of kit. But only hobbyists (me) or the rich (not me) may apply. Heh Heh!!

Now, when is Volta coming out?


Are you at 3440x1440 or 2560? What games do you play?

I ask because I have a 3440x1440 100 Hz G Sync Asus monitor and I can't consistently hit 100 Hz on Ultra settings in Battlefield 1 in Multiplayer with a FTW3.



I am at 2560 which explains it. You already know this no doubt, but the amount of extra work the GPU has to do for 3440 x 1440 is a lot!
 
To be honest, I am not surprised you can't get consistent 100fps on max in BF at your resolution, not even the mighty EVGA FTW3 could do that - consistently.
 
But at 2560 x 1440p, it could manage that with power to spare, I guess. Don't have that game though so can't be certain.
 
Playing Civ 6, late game, menu's totally maxed out with the highest quality settings in the NVCP according to fraps the game stays at 144fps/143fps.
My 1080 ftw which I Oced couldn't manage that at all. Frequent drops to 65 or so. Still great of course, but from that and the other games and benches I have run it's instantly clear the 1080ti is considerably more powerful. At my resolution I would hazard a conservative guess and say it's around 30% more powerful. That also matches the score differences in Firestrike dx11, and timespy dx 12. Amazing card!
 
But BF Ultra MP at consistent 100fps with your pixel packed wide screen - I don't think any single GPU set up could manage that consistently with pascal. Consistently is important though just for interest. I mean I imagine it often goes to 100fps but drops a bit(sometimes for a second or so maybe a big drop) too in heavy action packed scenarios. Is that about right?


You are correct, I'll get to 100 but it won't stay there during heavy action in multiplayer.

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/03 15:36:34 (permalink)
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Well, I've run my card (1080ti ics  ftw3) through a gauntlet of tests. I have the paid versions of 3DMark and more. It's done better than I expected. I may have done well on the silicon lottery too! That's amazing for me as with my 1080 and 980 and other earlier cards my best results were somewhat below average. With this one, while not a "golden chip," I think it's a good one. But maybe it's too early to say that!

Another good and surprising thing was after getting fully acquainted with the un-intuitive, but useful Precision xoc I spent quite a while creating a custom curve that suits my mild paranoia about heat, but remains quiet too. (It's no where near the "aggressive," setting, but way above the silent but low speed stock.). After that I gave the secondary slave BIOS a try and amazingly it was a match to my custom one. Seeing as this is the only GPU I have ever had in over 2 decades that I feel no need or desire to overclock (yet!?!) I no longer need to run any background customization programs, and I'm  not worried about the heat. But in peak of summer I may use the latest GPU-Z in background for heat checks from time to time as they have added read outs for the 9 extra heat sensors in the ICS. Good job that. I don't know of any software except for that - and of course Precision than can monitor them all.

It's overkill for my 144hz 1440p, but it's also bliss whacking every setting to max in game and in the NVDIA CP without even considering that the game can't handle it. The power of this card really is amazing. My EVGA 1080 FTW was easily good enough for my monitor, but this is what hobbies are all about - and screw the cost, it's my hobby! If anyone says that I wasted my money with a 27" 144hz G-Sync they are wrong. The experience is better. And any such comment can only possibly be written out of furious jealousy. I whole heatedly recommend this particular card, even to those with mid level monitors like mine who already have a 1080, like me.
Seriously, it is just a very pleasant feeling having such a powerful piece of kit. But only hobbyists (me) or the rich (not me) may apply. Heh Heh!!

Now, when is Volta coming out?


Are you at 3440x1440 or 2560? What games do you play?

I ask because I have a 3440x1440 100 Hz G Sync Asus monitor and I can't consistently hit 100 Hz on Ultra settings in Battlefield 1 in Multiplayer with a FTW3.



I am at 2560 which explains it. You already know this no doubt, but the amount of extra work the GPU has to do for 3440 x 1440 is a lot!
 
To be honest, I am not surprised you can't get consistent 100fps on max in BF at your resolution, not even the mighty EVGA FTW3 could do that - consistently.
 
But at 2560 x 1440p, it could manage that with power to spare, I guess. Don't have that game though so can't be certain.
 
Playing Civ 6, late game, menu's totally maxed out with the highest quality settings in the NVCP according to fraps the game stays at 144fps/143fps.
My 1080 ftw which I Oced couldn't manage that at all. Frequent drops to 65 or so. Still great of course, but from that and the other games and benches I have run it's instantly clear the 1080ti is considerably more powerful. At my resolution I would hazard a conservative guess and say it's around 30% more powerful. That also matches the score differences in Firestrike dx11, and timespy dx 12. Amazing card!
 
But BF Ultra MP at consistent 100fps with your pixel packed wide screen - I don't think any single GPU set up could manage that consistently with pascal. Consistently is important though just for interest. I mean I imagine it often goes to 100fps but drops a bit(sometimes for a second or so maybe a big drop) too in heavy action packed scenarios. Is that about right?


You are correct, I'll get to 100 but it won't stay there during heavy action in multiplayer.



Hey, thanks for the quick reply buddy. You made me realize something. It's not really enough to put just the vertical res. anymore (1080p 1440p for example) As wide screen is becoming more and more popular.
 
I am fine with my current screen for a while, but I look long and hard before deciding if to go wide, like you, which sounds and looks better to me all the time, or jump right up to 4k. During this pascal gen I think your choice is the better. Yeah, the 1080ti can do 4k 60fps in most games from what I've read, but I think one more generational leap before single gpu setups can really handle all 4k with g-sync and high refresh goodness. For pascal, just opinion, but I think the sweet safe gauranteed above 60fps in all games maxed is either what I have, or the more demanding 3440 x 1440 like you have. Still a breeze for most games (perhaps not BF MP at Ultra though Heh Heh), need some serious power to even reach 100fps at your settings, let alone managing it, but with a few fps drops. Good stuff!!

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/07 19:02:12 (permalink)
Hey all, couple things -  just got and started using 1080ti SC2 
 
My first Ti Card, upgrading from a gtx 970.   Its an impressive thing, cold as ice, quiet, powerful.  BUT, I am not getting the benches or performance I thought I would.  Another guy with almost the same system as me, is actually out performing me on benches, with a regular 1080ti, no overclock or anything.   Is there something I am missing ?  Does this not work well with 3d Mark Benches ?  Are there special EVGA drivers I should be installing ?  Or ... is it something else ?  (And for the record, my CPU performs actually a bit better than his) 
 
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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/08 22:44:20 (permalink)
@AxBetterxPlayer. First congrats on the new card!
 
Several people have thought the same thing, but there are too many variable to give an answer clearly without a whole load of settings data. My guess would be that your card is performing normally and soon things will sort themselves out. (It could be a simple little setting, no way to tell).
 
Concretely I can say there are no special EVGA drivers. Downloading from directly from Evga or NV are the same. But when you changed card card MS might have swept in and set their own driver. In case this happened a simple clean install ( custom check - then check fresh install) is essential. That would rule out driver issues. All you really need are to tick the driver box and phy X, sound depends if you use HDMI to a tv, otherwise all the other "Junk," is best not to install.). Some will now doubt recommend DDU. That's fine. But from my own experience it's never been necessary unless changing from AMD to NV and vica versa. Still, do it if you want to be extra extra sure about the drivers.
 
Finally you are talking benchmarks, but are happy it seems with other stuff. Does it work better in games (higher fps for instance)? If so, forget the synthetic benches for now. Take time, enjoy, make sure real drivers (NV or EVGA site Downloaded drivers are clean installed) and I bet you within a few days or weeks, or perhaps a month all will reveal it's self.
 
Anything extra I say would be speculation. (and there is plenty of that!) but speculation often leads to people changing settings and ending up with a real problem. I'd say you have no problem, just the benches are not showing as they should which could be due to many small things.) If cool, feels good, games well. Forget the benches for a while, while you get fully acquainted with your new upgraded GPU!!

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Re: 1080 Ti SC2/FTW3 Reviews 2017/06/09 09:32:24 (permalink)
I've just got my 1080ti SC2 to replace my "old" 980 ti. What I can say, it's a monster. I even tried the unigine superposition 8k for fun and I was at 28..32 fps. For 4k, I've got 71fps avg (51..92). I didn't overclock yet. We'll see but for now, It's clearly not needed.
 
 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/10 02:01:25 (permalink)
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I need to know: Do the fans still stop spinning in idle?




Yes.


I was wondering about this, as when Precision XOC is open both the quiet and aggressive profiles don't spin the fans down at idle, so I was wondering what the auto fan behavior is meant to be whether PXOC is open or not?


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/10 04:38:21 (permalink)
Regarding the 1080ti FTW3 with 3 fans, this is what I have verified by both software (precision and HWINFO64) and importantly actually opening the case and looking at the fans.
After trying several custom curves using precision, I finally got kind of what I wanted. Then I rebooted, made sure precision was not set to auto start. Shutdown totally next and gave the second (slave) Bios a try with all software inc. Precision off, nothing in the background. This is done easily by locating a tiny switch just to the right of the 2 x 8 pin power connectors. It's set to default BIOS of course. Move to the right one click (there are only two possible positions, default and 2nd slave BIOS) The second BIOS, needlesss to say is official, made by EVGA, totally safe,  and doesn't affect functionality of any software from what I found. Obviously the fan profile will be different than default bios of course.
 
 This second BIOS is a bit more aggressive. Of course it has to be withing the strict boundaries set by NVDIA GPU Boost 3, but is still a bit more aggressive than default, mostly the somewhat increased fan curve/thermals are the, main,  but it also allows the card to draw slightly higher power too, even at default with no changes at all.
I really do like this second BIOS it's perfect, and I don't even need to open Precision unless I want to OC or something.
 
FANS
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Now, on the 2nd slave Bios  without any other moddifications, at idle one fan (the GPU fan to the right I believe) never totally stops and spins just below 600rpm. Totally silent.
Under heavy load (Benches, and for example Civ6 dx 12 or dx11 totally maxed the fans will spin faster than the first bios, but now where near the "agressive," profile offered in precision. After a 5 hour game session non stop the highest temps on any of all the 9 or 10 temp monitors was 72c. Dam excellent! Couldn't hear a thing either. 
 
Perhaps more importantly in such a long session are averages which I immediatly screen shoot upon exiting the game. Amazing to me is that ALL temp sensor ave were in the low 60c range. I have observed this in bench sessions and other gamimg sessions too.
 
For me with the three fan card the slave BIOS is excellent and the solution to any heat issues (never had any) AND keeps it to my wax clogged ears silent. Very happy indeed.
And extra minor bonus is I don't need any kind of programs or monitors running in the background. (At idle CPU 99% idle! All GPU card heat parameters are at or below 30c.)
 
Finally two things: 1. What I wrote above is correct and fully verified, BUT ONLY FOR THE THREE FAN MODEL FTW3. I won't risk any specualtion at all about other models although I have a pretty clear opinion in my mind - But can't prove it 100%.
 
2. I have owned 9 NV cards, all top end, then the ti after I swapped over from AMD with the 5XX Fermi gen. I have always OCed those cards because while they were all good, an extra 5 % overall power case by case would let me run any game of that gen at max settings. Since GTX970 I have ran 1440p 2560x1440p @ 144Hz IPS G-Sync.) I splurged and got a Galax Hall of fame 980 (supposedly the highest engineered card, but don't take my word for that.) When Pascal was released I bought the original EVGA 1080 FTW. Pretty much immediately after installing I went for stable OCs with ALL cards. But, I have now bought the top EVGA 1080ti FTW3 as by chance a free new credit card offer was posted to me. Yes.
Bought it. Fighting dept, but this card is so wonderful IMO that I haven't even considered trying any sort of OC. No need - unless going for records.
 
With the second (slave) BIOS active, and no other alterations at all, this is the best card, the most powerful by far, Cooler than I had hoped, and quiet.
Damn the debt collectors and my raving wife. I don't not regret making this purchase even if it ruins my life!!  So There!!!!!
 
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Just on the tiny off Chance of mis-understanding, with the regular (master) BIOS, all fans WILL stop spinning completly, as Jacob stated above, when the card is idle.
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/11 02:40:11 (permalink)
@Gawg36
Thanks for sharing that information. Do you think the slave BIOS is aimed at being the one to test your overclocks on or is it already setup to reach higher clock speeds than the default with more aggressive fan curves? I'm new to the dual BIOS GPU's...
 
I agree the cooling on this card this card excellent, I'm running my games at high-ultra 3440x1440 90-100 fps at 40-55C on the aggressive fan profile...
 
I'm still confused though, as if Precision XOC is open neither the quiet or aggressive fan profiles are set to allow the fans to spin down at idle... I think the quiet profile is set to keep running the fans at 30% up until 60C... obviously that can easily be changed in the profile... If I want 0 fan speed at idle I have to turn auto fan off and manually slide the sliders down to 0...


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/12 02:34:22 (permalink)
Hi Graphite, I'll try to answer your question to the best of my knowledge, but I can't promise concrete fact like before.
 
Firstly, I don't think the second BIOS is really aimed for better OCs, as a good OC is starting from the very basic default function of the card and slowly working up, clocks, fans etc in balance. I may be wrong about that and the second bios I guess gives a head start. On my PC I have noticed more after hours of gaming with background monitoring that the second slave BIOS is indeed more aggressive, allowing for more Power % which in turn, at least seems like, my average clock speeds are a bit higher after long intensive game sessions. We already know about the fans which is the only thing that immediately stands out. I like to think of the second BIOS as a sort of balanced OC above the default master BIOS which leads to better cooling and higher average frame rates and GPU core speeds without actually increasing the peak core speed. I hope that makes sense?
 
Your confusion about Precision is understandable. The program has come a long way but simply isn't intuitive or self explanatory like the long lived Afterburner (which WILL NOT work with ics cards). In fact I have uninstalled precision as I am so happy with the card when on the second slave bios I have no need to change anything. That will change overtime as games get even more demanding, but for now the slave bios settings eat up any benchmark or game that is thrown at it on my 2560x1440p monitor at 144Hz. Quite an achievement! My 1080ftw couldn't do that so I had it on one of several OC profiles I made for various games depending on how demanding. Not the case this the ti. It handles the lot excellently, quietly and at low temps. What more could one ask for?
 
I was never 100% sure about all fans stopping when precision was open either which is one reason I ditched it. Unfortunately as far as I know that's the only software that can function properly for changing parameters (OCing) with the added temp points on all ics cards. If anyone knows of such software please update this thread.
 
Unless you want to higher bench scores (an admirable hobby!) I would leave precision off and just run the card permanently on the second BIOS. Having said that your monitor has a lot more pixels than mine, so to get consistent max monititor refresh rates may possibly require more power. But the card is already significantly OCed stably out the box, and that bit better on the second BIOS, I doubt it would be worth it. Remember, in the end all cards are limited by Nvida boost 3 hard set parameters. I have no doubt the excellent EVGA 1080ti SC or FTW3 could handle more than that, but altering NV Boost settings is beyond my ability. (And would almost certainly void warranty.).
 
Can't really say more than that, I hope it's of some help?
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/12 03:06:05 (permalink)
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Is that the Asus ROG you have? I have it too. I'm finding the 1080 Ti FTW3 plays BF1 at ultra pretty well, the only setting I have clicked down is post processing quality to medium. Last I checked I'm getting a stable 90 fps...  




 


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/12 23:35:49 (permalink)
BTW: The FTW3 1080ti continues to amaze. With the card set to the second, more aggressive bios I have run through a battery of benches, stress and VR tests since activating my free SuperPosition software - Cheers EVGA. (Did all the 3DMark Adv edition stuff last week)
 
Still, I have never had any sensor go above 72c max in ANY run. Outstanding indeed. BTW, my cooling solutions are nothing special. A nice, but midrange Corsair 500r with a large liquid cooler on top for the CPU. Case cooling is pretty much stock with a couple of original mods (I made and came up with them, Ha!) GPU is out the box on BIOS 2.

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/13 02:16:50 (permalink)
Hi Gawg36
 
Thanks for that information around the second BIOS, from your observations it sounds like the second BIOS is set to be more aggressive all round so I'm keen to try it myself. My understanding was that the second BIOS was also a precautionary measure in that if your manual overclock failed you could fall back to the default BIOS, is that true? Something new to me.
 
Oh a shame, I wanted to ask whether Afterburner would add support for these cards, I guess that means fan control can only be done through Precision X? It's ok, obviously MSI Afterburner's features are much more advanced, so I can simply use it's OSD instead of Precision X and keep Precision X open for fan control if necessary. The only thing missing I guess would be Afterburners inability to monitor the 9 sensors and do tracking etc... But then we have the G P M LED's... 
 
Sounds great, are you aiming for 144 fps in most of your games? I'm interested to know your temps... About fan noise, I'm interested to hear others also, are you adjusting PWR and MEM fans for quieter operation or happy with quiet/aggressive profiles? I'm getting a max of 2343 RPM at around 57C using the aggressive profile. I find they're starting to get quite loud around here and takes some headphone volume to drain it out, but then again I have an issue where GPU fans along with my H80i v2 fans cause vibrational noise through my Corsair 450D, this could be an issue with the case itself but also the h80i v2 is due to replacement due to pump hum and fan/bearing hum. 
 
The 3440x1440 res I'm running is monster and really the Ti FTW3 is handling this admirably, some games including one AAA game I've tested through so far at full ultra it chews through. TC The Division proves a little more challenging, it's rendering some huge detailed images. I had trouble using Geforce optimized settings at 90 fps for this game so I reverted to medium everywhere, I've now moved each setting up one by one to high again and now have a pretty stable stable 80-90 fps which is pretty amazing for this frame rate and resolution... I've yet to find the culprit but I'd say it's one or two particular settings that were holding up a smooth 90 fps.    
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/13 02:41:04 (permalink)
Hey man, you are correct, the slave BIOS can also function as a safety feature, but two small caveats: 1. People do screw up their BIOS, rarely, but I've never heard of it happening by using OC software such as Precision. To alter a BIOS you have to hard, physically flash it. It's firmware, not software. There are programs you can download for free to alter the BIOS I strongly advise against it. It's dangerous because you are operating on a more fundamental level of hard coding. Stay away! Then this will never happen. 
 
Anyone, that's my understanding and experience after years of OCing, but I want to learn stuff too so if I'm wrong let me know...gently please...I am of a sensitive disposition.
 
2. A minor thing. Using the functional 2nd BIOS in an emergency will of course cause slight changes to your fan profile because BIOS 2 is a bit more aggressive. The procedure is to download a new copy from EVGA of the master BIOS, then use the "flash," hard code the ruined BIOS with the new one. After that's done you will probably hear a loud beep. Follow on screen instructions EXACTLY throughout. But generally after the flash, shut down, turn off, put the switch back to the master position, and you will have the exact same functional BIOS (master) when you boot up. That's what should happen.
 
But BIOS flashing is not like adjusting paramaters with software. It's dangerous, potentially. And you don't want to ever be doing that unless you have very clear step by step instructions for your card from the manufacturer. In fact it's not as difficult as I am making it sound, rather, even a small mis-key could be very bad indeed.
 
I have to stop now. This talk of BIOS flashing (which I have done) has made me feel all dizzy. Due to my sensitive disposition. Bye for now. And don't go FLASHING!! 

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/06/13 09:58:37 (permalink)
Tom's hardware FTW3 review is up as of today.
The most interesting comments in the review were as follows:
 
"We stumbled upon one rather puzzling behavior that we managed to reproduce only a few times and consider a bug. During the card's cool-down, the middle fan stops first. Now, if the card catches just the right (or actually, the wrong) moment to go back to full load, this fan remains inactive. Consequently, during gaming the card heats up to just above 80°C. At that point, only a reboot is able to get the middle fan working correctly again."
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