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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 11:58:02 (permalink)
Just read the Bjorn3d review of the FTW3 - looks excellent. They even hit 2075 Mhz on the core, with an overclock that was "totally" stable.
 
The power draw is quite high though - max draw was at 407 Watts from the wall. I am starting to wonder if my 750W PSU is truly enough for this beast.
 
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CPU: 4690K 4.6Ghz GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 MOBO: Asus Z97 RAM: 24GB 2133Mhz DDR3 CASE: Corsair 750D PSU: Corsair RM750 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 11:58:58 (permalink)
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Just read the Bjorn3d review of the FTW3 - looks excellent. They even hit 2075 Mhz on the core, with an overclock that was "totally" stable.
 
The power draw is quite high though - max draw was at 407 Watts from the wall. I am starting to wonder if my 750W PSU is truly enough for this beast.
 
Get mine in 7 days ;)


yeah i saw that too.. i think its quite high.. 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 14:54:06 (permalink)
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Just read the Bjorn3d review of the FTW3 - looks excellent. They even hit 2075 Mhz on the core, with an overclock that was "totally" stable.
 
The power draw is quite high though - max draw was at 407 Watts from the wall. I am starting to wonder if my 750W PSU is truly enough for this beast.
 
Get mine in 7 days ;)




It shouldn't be a concern unless you are running a lot of hard drives or multiple cards. I used CoolerMaster's power supply checker tool with a stock 1080ti at 2000mhz OC w/ 4790k @ 4.4 w 4x1866mhz 9cas 8gb DDR3, 500gb pci-e 960 evo SSD(+ 500gb 850 pro in regular sata), 5x 140mm fans, 5x usb 3.0 devices, gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, and the service said I was running about 620 watts under load and they recommend a 675w psu(rounded up to 700w).
 
It's only 28 more watts than a 980 TI SC, I'm already running a classified, so my Seasonic 750w gold should be sufficient. In fact, feels like 750 is the "perfect" zone for efficiency on this single card.
 
I've done high benchmarks with this setup, so I can vouch that it isn't underpowered. I also run a 900w sine wave simulated UPS on this rig with a dell gsync 144hz lcd 28" 1440p monitor and it still has 2/10 bars left before optimal load, and also plugged in is my external hdd dock, so I think it's all good.
 
tldr; if you're already running a 980ti SC or better, I doubt 28 more watts will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 16:51:03 (permalink)
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Just read the Bjorn3d review of the FTW3 - looks excellent. They even hit 2075 Mhz on the core, with an overclock that was "totally" stable.
 
The power draw is quite high though - max draw was at 407 Watts from the wall. I am starting to wonder if my 750W PSU is truly enough for this beast.
 
Get mine in 7 days ;)




It shouldn't be a concern unless you are running a lot of hard drives or multiple cards. I used CoolerMaster's power supply checker tool with a stock 1080ti at 2000mhz OC w/ 4790k @ 4.4 w 4x1866mhz 9cas 8gb DDR3, 500gb pci-e 960 evo SSD(+ 500gb 850 pro in regular sata), 5x 140mm fans, 5x usb 3.0 devices, gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, and the service said I was running about 620 watts under load and they recommend a 675w psu(rounded up to 700w).
 
It's only 28 more watts than a 980 TI SC, I'm already running a classified, so my Seasonic 750w gold should be sufficient. In fact, feels like 750 is the "perfect" zone for efficiency on this single card.
 
I've done high benchmarks with this setup, so I can vouch that it isn't underpowered. I also run a 900w sine wave simulated UPS on this rig with a dell gsync 144hz lcd 28" 1440p monitor and it still has 2/10 bars left before optimal load, and also plugged in is my external hdd dock, so I think it's all good.
 
tldr; if you're already running a 980ti SC or better, I doubt 28 more watts will be the straw that breaks the camels back.




 
I've been a bit concerned about the PSU too.
 
I have a Corsair HXi 750W 80 Plus Platinum.   And a very similar configuration, but with a 5280 CPU OC'd to 4.5 and a few more fans (200mm, 3 120mms, 4-140mms, and 2 80mms)
 
When I ran the EVGA PSU calculator it didn't provide any details, just recommended an 850W PSU.
 
The Newegg PSU calculator also didn't provide any details and also recommended an 850W PSU.
 
When I ran the Coolermaster calculator it also recommended a 850W PSU.
 
But, interestingly the coolermaster DID provide more details, below.
 
Results:
Load Wattage: 656 W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 706 W
 
 
Does anybody know how conservative the PSU calculators are ??
 
Do they just automatically adjust the recommended size PSU up to the next sized PSU assuming that the customer is going to add some more stuff later ....... so they bump up to the next size even though it may not be really necessary ?
 
Or, is there some risk if the PSU rated output is "too close" to the load wattage and is taking into account some unknown watt adjustment for spikes, power surges, or something like that ?
 
It makes me kind of nervous that all 3 recommended an 850W PSU for my configuration.....but, I really don't want to buy a new one if it isn't really necessary.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by surfseattle - 2017/05/03 17:08:46
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 17:16:12 (permalink)
That was total system draw. The whole computer. 1 card with a 750 watt power supply is fine.
Now a 2nd card might argue for an upgrade to 850watt. I'm getting a 1000 watt unit for extra margin.


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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/03 18:05:35 (permalink)
Okay this is my opinion on this PSU matter now I'm no expert by any means so what I'm about to say could be totally wrong and please feel free to call me out on it.  I welcome other input.  Okay  the last two builds I have done have been AMD builds and both have had dual GPU's the first was just on air the second with water cooling.  The first build I had a 1300 watt psu I didn't know better I was learning at the time in reality I should of went with a 1000 Watt psu MAX cause it was on air not that many fans to hook up.  With my second build a whole different ball game cause i was water cooling it.  I had a D5 pump to run plus I had 9 rad fans to push and 4 case fans, and a 250w cpu Yes the fx 9590 So I went with a 1200W psu for this one and it has done the job with out a hitch since I built it.  Now my new build I will have a dual water cooling loops one for the cpu and vrm, and the other for my twin gpu's.  So that means I'll have 2 pumps this time d5's Plus two corsair links to control each of my rad fans which i'll have 16 rad fan in a push pull config.  and six case fans in total.  three inlet and three exhaust.  plus everything else that I'll have connected to my psu.  So for this one.  I would think a 1200w psu would do the trick but I want head room so I'll be going with a 1600w for future building room and overcocking.  in my opinion you should have a min. 1000w psu when you are running dual gpus.  That's my own opinion like I said it's just an opinion.  and it hasn't failed me yet I have always had plenty of power to do what ever I want on my computer for addons.  
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 01:25:25 (permalink)
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It shouldn't be a concern unless you are running a lot of hard drives or multiple cards. I used CoolerMaster's power supply checker tool with a stock 1080ti at 2000mhz OC w/ 4790k @ 4.4 w 4x1866mhz 9cas 8gb DDR3, 500gb pci-e 960 evo SSD(+ 500gb 850 pro in regular sata), 5x 140mm fans, 5x usb 3.0 devices, gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, and the service said I was running about 620 watts under load and they recommend a 675w psu(rounded up to 700w).
 
It's only 28 more watts than a 980 TI SC, I'm already running a classified, so my Seasonic 750w gold should be sufficient. In fact, feels like 750 is the "perfect" zone for efficiency on this single card.
 
I've done high benchmarks with this setup, so I can vouch that it isn't underpowered. I also run a 900w sine wave simulated UPS on this rig with a dell gsync 144hz lcd 28" 1440p monitor and it still has 2/10 bars left before optimal load, and also plugged in is my external hdd dock, so I think it's all good.
 
tldr; if you're already running a 980ti SC or better, I doubt 28 more watts will be the straw that breaks the camels back.




Cheers for the reply, sounds like I'm good to go :) I have far less components than you as well.


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 03:13:12 (permalink)
Well i find Bjorn3D review a little off.
 
OC was done ONLY with 100% fans and he commented that it would probably work fine with the standard fan curve too.
 
No real comparison with other 1080 Ti in graphs using the same test rig.
 
Only a quick note on temp and aucustics, while fine i like more in depth analyses specially with the async fans.
 
 
Any day the ULTIMATE review of the 1080 Ti FTW3 is coming from www.gamersnexus.net
 
These guys are extremely thorul and they do not leave anything out.
 
They already made an insanely good tear down AND pcb analysis of the FTW3 check it out here.
 
http://www.gamersnexus.ne...-teardown-and-pcb-info
 
http://www.gamersnexus.ne...80ti-ftw3-pcb-analysis
 
In the PCB analysis they even disclose in detail two ways of how to voltage mod the FTW3.
 
 
A WARNING though, once you enter the world of gamersnexus.net you will find most other review sites very lame.
post edited by chokladmuffen - 2017/05/04 03:46:04
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 03:33:33 (permalink)
lets wait a little bit for more reviews :D 
waiting for guru3d review too
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 04:05:35 (permalink)
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Well i find Bjorn3D review a little off.
 
OC was done ONLY with 100% fans and he commented that it would probably work fine with the standard fan curve too.
 
No real comparison with other 1080 Ti in graphs using the same test rig.
 
Only a quick note on temp and aucustics, while fine i like more in depth analyses specially with the async fans.
 
 
Any day the ULTIMATE review of the 1080 Ti FTW3 is coming from www.gamersnexus.net
 
These guys are extremely thorul and they do not leave anything out.
 
They already made an insanely good tear down AND pcb analysis of the FTW3 check it out here.
 
http://www.gamersnexus.ne...-teardown-and-pcb-info
 
http://www.gamersnexus.ne...80ti-ftw3-pcb-analysis
 
In the PCB analysis they even disclose in detail two ways of how to voltage mod the FTW3.
 
 
A WARNING though, once you enter the world of gamersnexus.net you will find most other review sites very lame.




Oh I totally agree, I was just watching the full PCB breakdown yesterday - VERY in depth and those guys really know their stuff. Still waiting on the nexus review as like you say, it will be the most thorough and we really need comparisons against stock 1080 Ti and other aftermarket 1080 Ti. 
 
He mentioned 100% Fans, and still got 2075 Mhz, but I am not sure if this is the most optimal method due to the way throttling works and the bios operates on pascal GPU's sometimes you need to trick the GPU into giving you more headroom...such as using an aggressive fan curve for example. I would be more than happy with 2075 anyways, especially as it would be a STABLE 2075 at all times, but it will still be interesting to see what else is achievable. Of course - EVGA might have just given these guys binned FTW3 but who knows, we'll find out very soon what everyone achieves with their clocks and performance!
 
Looking great either way.
 


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 10:30:08 (permalink)
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 12:39:35 (permalink)
Here we go....
 
 
 
 
 Seems like i cant post a link.....
 
youtube.com/watch?v=-WE4UWGHnzU
 
 
post edited by zeus0190 - 2017/05/04 12:41:59
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 13:06:32 (permalink)
I find it fascinating how one reviewer praises the low noise signature while the other claims the card runs louder than the competition...
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 13:38:44 (permalink)
 
Sounds like the smartest buy of all the 1080ti cards was the SC2 at the pre-order price of $719....
 
Congrats to all those that pulled the trigger on that one !!!
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 13:51:04 (permalink)
I wish the Elite FTW wasn't an additional $25 since its $749.99 price was a great deal as well, but I don't mind since I like the color and this card will last me a long while.

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 14:04:10 (permalink)


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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 16:31:57 (permalink)
Interesting review... shame all that engineering for the FTW3 goes to waste when it's capable of so much more but hey... we don't know what mods will come out down the line to remedy that.
 
Major question tho, what are we going to do about GPU sag lol the cards look beefy and my current card is smaller and already saggin :D


 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 20:14:29 (permalink)
Gamer Nexus goes in depth of the FTW3 cost analysis versus the SC2 and other brands:
 

 
Spoiler Alert, the FTW3 overclocks the same as all other cards.. it's a 100% Silicon Lottery.
 
 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 20:54:40 (permalink)
Can someone explain to me how the FTW3 dual bios function works? I suppose it doesnt circumvent the voltage limit?
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 21:15:26 (permalink)
It's basically for ppl who flash special bios and things onto there card. If they mess up really bad they can power down and flip the switch to save there card from turning into a brick
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 21:30:30 (permalink)
So does that mean we can bypass the voltage lock with software?
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 22:16:08 (permalink)
No you can't. If you want to go past the regulated voltage limits you have to physically mod the PCB of the card pretty sure gamers nexus gives a very brief discussion on how to do this in either his sc2 or FTW review. It's something I'll never do so it's up to you if you want to potentially fry you're whole rig
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 22:17:58 (permalink)
Does anybody have the FTW3 I would like to see some footage on how it handles games
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 22:20:28 (permalink)
Does anyone have a rough estimate when the  will be arriving?
 
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/04 22:52:20 (permalink)
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Major question tho, what are we going to do about GPU sag lol the cards look beefy and my current card is smaller and already saggin :D




Oh, we don't have to worry about GPU sag at all, because it has a backplate and that takes care of it... or so I've been told.
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/05 09:35:55 (permalink)
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Does anybody have the FTW3 I would like to see some footage on how it handles games




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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/05 14:10:20 (permalink)
JayzTwoCents just released his 1080Ti FTW3 review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7D4Q0HtQU

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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/05 14:35:29 (permalink)
Video embed :)
 



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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/05 15:23:41 (permalink)
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JayzTwoCents just released his 1080Ti FTW3 review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7D4Q0HtQU


Liked the review, card looked great from the beginning, nice to see it perform as well also.
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Re: PCPER.com EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 with iCX Technology Review 2017/05/05 15:42:52 (permalink)
Beautiful cards!
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