"Binning" to verify clocks is what creates the FTW DT, Classified DT, FTW Reference Clocks, Classified Reference Clocks, and K|ngp|n Reference Clocks. Those are the ones that failed the bios binning, or the reference/downtuned lineup wouldnt exist.

Furthermore, EVGA initially released the 780ti Classified Reference Clock and K|ngp|n Reference Clock under a different model number and base/boost (nvidia reference clocks... hence the name reference clocks) without giving any notice. After serious backlash and people coming up with 780ti Queenp|n and such because EVGA didnt explain the purpose of the reference models, evga started the Reference Clock and DT labeling to differentiate them from the factory overclocked lineups.

charlesshaughnessy
Dang that's over the top. But if it's the best, it's the best.

It will come with a sweet memory heater built in so the memory can stay above lock up temps. Isnt that what all air users want? Ways go make their card hotter when it is at -100c.

Nowadays with GPU boost the whole act of "binning" has changed.
 
In the old days they were binned to make sure they met the advertised clocks, and then we could come along and OC them more if we wanted. Back then yes you would have a higher chance of getting better clocks with the high end cards since they were tested to already be OC'd. But now even the base FE model boosts up way past what the advertised clocks are for even the best cards. So while the FTW does have higher base clocks, it does not mean it will get any higher than a FE card. Of course other factors come into play like the improved coolers and such which allow the card to stay at higher boosted clocks for longer.
 
Now where the cards like the Kingpin and Classified come into play are better overall builds, better power phases, etc. And like said this will really only make a difference if you are truly pushing the limits with extreme OCing and using LN2 and volt mods and all that.
 
So is it worth it to get the Classified or Kingpin editions? Well that depends, if you are doing extreme benching then yes, or hell if you have the cash and like the looks better then that is also a reason. But just never forget that with the current GPU boost, no matter what card you get my FE might beat it at 2050 gpu and 5800 mem, or you might blow me away. Just comes down to luck of the draw.

Ab1987
meh

 I agree

corndog1836
I am still hoping with custom EK water loop I can get a Kingpin, Classified, or an FTW3 and break the 2100mhz barrier..
 
I want 2300-2400mhz ..... One can dream ... cant one...
 
I am getting rid of my 780TI classifieds in SLi for the best overclocking single 1080ti (dual bios) card. I am building a custom loop and want the best overclock from the GPU...hoping dual bios in one of the Kingpin or FTW3 cards will help

You can get 2300 to 2400MHz. On LN2.........

corndog1836
I am still hoping with custom EK water loop I can get a Kingpin, Classified, or an FTW3 and break the 2100mhz barrier..
 
I want 2300-2400mhz ..... One can dream ... cant one...
 
I am getting rid of my 780TI classifieds in SLi for the best overclocking single 1080ti (dual bios) card. I am building a custom loop and want the best overclock from the GPU...hoping dual bios in one of the Kingpin or FTW3 cards will help

Kingpin will likely have triple bios, the normal master slave bios and an LN2 bios.

Category 5
I know that when EVGA was selling the 980ti KingPin models with the guaranteed high ASIC scores there were a lot of people pissed that the Classified cards were typically showing up with lower ASIC scores than the earlier batches.  Binning GPUs sent tghe better chips to the Kingpin cards, and left the rest for the Classified and below.  Before the KP cards were out people getting very high ASIC scored on classified cards.  After the average ASIC was much lower.
 
I know the whole ASIC quality thing was misinterpreted too, since a lower ASIC scores could actually have meant a better OC on water (or better), but there was an awful lot of AISC score bragging going on, so EVGA capitalized on that.

That was actually 100% false at the time, as i received 3 different 980ti classifieds at 79.2 asic, a 76.4 and a 74.4 roght as that whole myth ran rampant... that was just people looking for false reasons to whine..

Anyway, for those wanting an overbuilt card for air or water... here is a professional overclocker with some words of wisdom around the 1:50 mark:



This is NOT a Kingpin card... but it is a professional overclocker that flat out tells people that the overbuilt cards are just a marketing hype and nothing more. When a professional says not to believe the hype, people should listen. But, people can waste their money for whatever reason they choose to believe. I know I dropped the custom cards because it wasnt providing any benefit.

The 1080 FTW, FTW2, and now 1080ti FTW3 have been beautiful cards. I likd that they got away from the FTW that maintained reference everything and just added 2 vrm and a bios switch like most older models.

loveha

Scarlet-Tech

Category 5
I know that when EVGA was selling the 980ti KingPin models with the guaranteed high ASIC scores there were a lot of people pissed that the Classified cards were typically showing up with lower ASIC scores than the earlier batches.  Binning GPUs sent tghe better chips to the Kingpin cards, and left the rest for the Classified and below.  Before the KP cards were out people getting very high ASIC scored on classified cards.  After the average ASIC was much lower.

I know the whole ASIC quality thing was misinterpreted too, since a lower ASIC scores could actually have meant a better OC on water (or better), but there was an awful lot of AISC score bragging going on, so EVGA capitalized on that.

That was actually 100% false at the time, as i received 3 different 980ti classifieds at 79.2 asic, a 76.4 and a 74.4 roght as that whole myth ran rampant... that was just people looking for false reasons to whine..

Anyway, for those wanting an overbuilt card for air or water... here is a professional overclocker with some words of wisdom around the 1:50 mark:



This is NOT a Kingpin card... but it is a professional overclocker that flat out tells people that the overbuilt cards are just a marketing hype and nothing more. When a professional says not to believe the hype, people should listen. But, people can waste their money for whatever reason they choose to believe. I know I dropped the custom cards because it wasnt providing any benefit.

This is why these FTW cards are the last custom cards I will ever bother with. They mean nothing any more.

Ok. I am listening..... reference or the ftw3 1080ti and ek water block is the best its gonna get... I like the FTW 3 in case my water loop fails I can put the air cooler back on.. plus it's only 50 bucks more but I do realize now that water cooling a reference card is the best it's going to get. thank you.

Sajin

loveha

Scarlet-Tech

Category 5
I know that when EVGA was selling the 980ti KingPin models with the guaranteed high ASIC scores there were a lot of people pissed that the Classified cards were typically showing up with lower ASIC scores than the earlier batches.  Binning GPUs sent tghe better chips to the Kingpin cards, and left the rest for the Classified and below.  Before the KP cards were out people getting very high ASIC scored on classified cards.  After the average ASIC was much lower.

I know the whole ASIC quality thing was misinterpreted too, since a lower ASIC scores could actually have meant a better OC on water (or better), but there was an awful lot of AISC score bragging going on, so EVGA capitalized on that.

That was actually 100% false at the time, as i received 3 different 980ti classifieds at 79.2 asic, a 76.4 and a 74.4 roght as that whole myth ran rampant... that was just people looking for false reasons to whine..

Anyway, for those wanting an overbuilt card for air or water... here is a professional overclocker with some words of wisdom around the 1:50 mark:



This is NOT a Kingpin card... but it is a professional overclocker that flat out tells people that the overbuilt cards are just a marketing hype and nothing more. When a professional says not to believe the hype, people should listen. But, people can waste their money for whatever reason they choose to believe. I know I dropped the custom cards because it wasnt providing any benefit.

This is why these FTW cards are the last custom cards I will ever bother with. They mean nothing any more.

If you're looking to get more consistent clocks the FTW, Classified & Kingpin are still good buys as they come with increased power targets over the FE.

YES.... I originally asked on this forum about a higher power Target and voltage limit I see now that the voltage doesn't really do anything for pascal even when water cooled it's more for ln2 ,so I guess the power Target would help me reach the highest clock and stay there as my card should be very close to Ambient beings that I have a huge amount of radiator space 2x 360's and the ftw3 is only $50 more than the Founder's Edition anyhow I don't know if I would spend a lot more money for a classified or Kingpin Edition card cuz they would be much more expensive and I wouldn't get any Moore performance for the money

Scarlet-Tech
The higher power target may.. ONLY MAY.. help maintain better clocks. Voltage doesnt change unless evga gets special permission or aomeone releases a special bios. Saying that having a hogher power target for better overclocks has also been consistently proved wrong, or there wouldnt be threads of people complaining their custom pcb cards didnt overclock well. There have been plenty of reference cards that outperform the custom cards without a higher power target by utilizing a waterblock to keep temps down.

I will keep that in mind...thank you... I keep going back and forth between the fe card and the ftw3 however I will stay with the EVGA brand

Scarlet-Tech
The FTW3 is absolutely beautiful for air. It will provide better temperatures than the founders for sure. Better temps will allow for more stable clocks in any card.

Is the EVGA 1080 TI Founder's Edition in stock anywhere cuz I'm getting kind of tired of waiting for the ftw3 although I do like that particular card but right now I'm not playing any games cuz I'm waiting

corndog1836

Scarlet-Tech
The FTW3 is absolutely beautiful for air. It will provide better temperatures than the founders for sure. Better temps will allow for more stable clocks in any card.

Is the EVGA 1080 TI Founder's Edition in stock anywhere cuz I'm getting kind of tired of waiting for the ftw3 although I do like that particular card but right now I'm not playing any games cuz I'm waiting

It's holding up my whole custom water loop assembly

And also EK water blocks for the ftw3 won't be out until late May

but i just order a ftw3