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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:30:56
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Hey ,
The whole point is that you don't go announcing a "price" for days then when it is near availability change your price. That's just not appropriate. It's just that.. be it 10$/100$/1000$.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:51:36
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:52:29
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[<font]I don't understand the limited run issue myself. Does this mean they will discontinue the product after this. With all the Titans sold and now the Tis there has to be a huge demand. The thing I really wonder about is the actual Hybrid card. I find it extremely aggravating EVGA is taking advantage of our lack of will power and patience. Most likely they will release a hybrid card that will cost less than a FE+Kit. I know its about capitalizing but its not ethical. I really feel they should just release the Hybrid cards first instead of gouging us to purchase another card + a kit just to have what most of us want now which is a hybrid card. They obviously know this and are taking advantage of us in this way. EVGA I know you need to make money but is stuff like this that damages your reputation. I really pray that one day you will no longer take advantage of us. All I want is a 1080Ti hybrid but at what cost. You making me feel really crumby about this purchase. Just Saying!!!
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:54:05
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nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
So your 1 card cost less then your 2 cards? Who would have thought... 4 years later 2 ti's costs 1400.00
Are you being obtuse on purpose? I'm comparing performance between a $1200 SLI setup from 4 years ago, to performance on a single 1080 Ti that's costs $500 cheaper. The single card solution for $500 cheaper, stomps the crap out of the dual 780's. The point is, you can get higher performance now days in a single card than what it took cost wise years ago. You're getting twice the performance for nearly 1/2 the price.
No...Technology got better. When you break it down to what is available now and then it's the same spot you were at paying the same amount for the same (then) performance...
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:55:38
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I myself am grabbing one if I can. With that being said the problem with this situation is the confusion and uncertainty around the whole matter. If they are going to put the product up without a pre order option then they could of left the price off the page until the product was in hand. Also with all the attention they are getting about the matter they should sticky the subject with all the info they have to calm the situation instead of a random update in the 1 of 5 posts on the topic. Evga to me has always about consistency, warranty, products, and support. I don't feel the way this has been handled has shown EVGA in the best light.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:55:39
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 12:14:45
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The only difference between the 1080 and 1080ti kits are the mid plates.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:19:01
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nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
So your 1 card cost less then your 2 cards? Who would have thought... 4 years later 2 ti's costs 1400.00
Are you being obtuse on purpose? I'm comparing performance between a $1200 SLI setup from 4 years ago, to performance on a single 1080 Ti that's costs $500 cheaper. The single card solution for $500 cheaper, stomps the crap out of the dual 780's. The point is, you can get higher performance now days in a single card than what it took cost wise years ago. You're getting twice the performance for nearly 1/2 the price.
No...Technology got better. When you break it down to what is available now and then it's the same spot you were at paying the same amount for the same (then) performance...
I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. And yes, of course technology increased. Isn't that what usually happens in the tech world? When it took me $1200 to net X amount of performance in 2013 with two GTX 780's, it now only takes $500 with a single card to net that same amount of performance. A single GTX 1080 matches two 780's in performance. If that's the case, shculdn't Nvidia be charging $1000 for a GTX 1080?
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:20:52
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It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:31:10
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:32:46
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I never said they were raping on pricing. As far back as I can remember the top-tier current gen cards have always been $600-700
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:39:27
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
We failed to prove that increasing the price of essentially the same product 50% isn't an issue? That is your opinion not shared by the sane majority. You're trying to 'prove something' by equating apples and oranges. I'd say that is an objective failure in logic. The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price. Nor is the argument against Nvidia, another fail. It's that simple. Your argument that the GPU's are expensive so shut up about the price of the cooler is why companies feel entitled.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:50:52
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price.
Well, that's where you failed. You're comparing pricing on a product that's not even been released yet. And to be honest? Speak with your wallets if you think you're being ripped off by EVGA. Feel free to go over to EK and spend $400-500 on a liquid loop for a single GPU.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:51:19
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After following this thread it appears there are quite a lot of users who want this cooler solution very very very bad, enough so that they can't fathom that 1. The price was never going to be $119.99 2. That EVGA made a mistake on the webpage and 3. Refuse to go buy from another vendor. but 4. Perhaps it does cost more to make this unit.
This only strengthens EVGA decision to charge more. Good job folks
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 12:54:38
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Definitely not, most of us bailed and bought a 1080 kit. I just found out modifications aren't even required unless you want to use the shroud.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit Announced! 'New and Improved' with a 50% price increase.
2017/03/31 12:58:21
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So buy the old kit and only use the pump. Got it!
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 13:00:17
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So the people that paid 119.99, they are the lucky ones because they purchased first. Now the rest of us have to pay 159.99 it's just, if it was my company, I would honor , he previous lower price to everyone else since it's my mistake(or whoevers) that put up the price to begin with.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 13:00:44
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No one paid anything yet. They never went up for preorder.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 13:09:45
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forkinator So the people that paid 119.99, they are the lucky ones because they purchased first. Now the rest of us have to pay 159.99 it's just, if it was my company, I would honor , he previous lower price to everyone else since it's my mistake(or whoevers) that put up the price to begin with.
they never been sold yet.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 13:56:35
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price.
Well, that's where you failed. You're comparing pricing on a product that's not even been released yet. And to be honest? Speak with your wallets if you think you're being ripped off by EVGA. Feel free to go over to EK and spend $400-500 on a liquid loop for a single GPU.
Ah....so you're ignorant to the entire reasoning and the facts behind it. Not wonder your arguments do not make sense. The price was listed when the product was announced as $119.99. The same as the functionally identical cooler. So naturally, those of us waiting for this, rightly assumed this was the official price. I mean they officially announced it and put an official price with a notifyu button. So naturally, when right before its release, the price suddenly increased by 50%, it is completely normal and rational to ask why. Frankly, I cannot see why you are arguing against your fellow consumer. Or maybe you're just entertaining yourself playing the provocateur.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:12:44
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price.
Well, that's where you failed. You're comparing pricing on a product that's not even been released yet. And to be honest? Speak with your wallets if you think you're being ripped off by EVGA. Feel free to go over to EK and spend $400-500 on a liquid loop for a single GPU.
Ah....so you're ignorant to the entire reasoning and the facts behind it. Not wonder your arguments do not make sense. The price was listed when the product was announced as $119.99. The same as the functionally identical cooler. So naturally, those of us waiting for this, rightly assumed this was the official price. I mean they officially announced it and put an official price with a notifyu button. So naturally, when right before its release, the price suddenly increased by 50%, it is completely normal and rational to ask why. Frankly, I cannot see why you are arguing against your fellow consumer. Or maybe you're just entertaining yourself playing the provocateur.
I've seen pricing fluctuate all over the place on Amazon too. Do you contact their customer support and **** at them when the price increases on an item that doesn't meet your budget? Like I said, speak with your wallet. If EVGA's pricing on this is too outlandish, people simply will not purchase it. There are other options out there, which ironically are more expensive lol.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:26:46
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price.
Well, that's where you failed. You're comparing pricing on a product that's not even been released yet. And to be honest? Speak with your wallets if you think you're being ripped off by EVGA. Feel free to go over to EK and spend $400-500 on a liquid loop for a single GPU.
Ah....so you're ignorant to the entire reasoning and the facts behind it. Not wonder your arguments do not make sense. The price was listed when the product was announced as $119.99. The same as the functionally identical cooler. So naturally, those of us waiting for this, rightly assumed this was the official price. I mean they officially announced it and put an official price with a notifyu button. So naturally, when right before its release, the price suddenly increased by 50%, it is completely normal and rational to ask why. Frankly, I cannot see why you are arguing against your fellow consumer. Or maybe you're just entertaining yourself playing the provocateur.
I've seen pricing fluctuate all over the place on Amazon too. Do you contact their customer support and **** at them when the price increases on an item that doesn't meet your budget? Like I said, speak with your wallet. If EVGA's pricing on this is too outlandish, people simply will not purchase it. There are other options out there, which ironically are more expensive lol.
Did you seriously just use Amazon as a counter agrument? Amazon does not manufacture anything and they also act as a marketplace for 3rd party vendors...you might as well be referring to ebay at this point. The fact of the matter is, EVGA makes and markets their product. They advertised at a certain price, then quietly marked it up, and then when people got upset they marked it down a little bit. It would be like a game being advertised at 49.99 by nintendo/sony/whoever for like a month, you then see an advert their site saying that it was 89.99, people getting pissed, and then them lowering it to 79.99. Would that be reasonable or acceptable?
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:27:54
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I agree with Heavy to an extent and believe they noticed very high demand for these and the price increase could have been done in response of that along with maybe, not enough were made and or material/labor costs have increased so who knows but some explanation should be given for everyone to move along. As for the Amazon example, that's completely different. You're comparing competition and that's not what's happening here to a product that haven't even been released yet.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:49:02
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haloguy123 Wow was looking forward to it, but not after this price increase I hope this is an early April fools joke :)
Nope.. the April Fools joke will be, "Guess what guys? We never even made a Titan / 1080Ti Hybrid! HAR HAR HAR!"
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:50:32
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2017/03/31 14:52:44
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 14:55:08
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LVNeptune It takes 2x 1080Ti in SLi to run 100% 4K/60 without hiccups for games that can even run that. In 4 years, it will be 1 card to net the same performance...really not sure what you are trying to explain or you are just being ignorant to this?
Yeah, and a single card in 3-4 years, will cost half the amount of what those dual 1080 Ti's do right now. The point is, Nvidia is not "raping" everyone on pricing. All you guys have failed miserably trying to prove as such.
The point is, we are not comparing price and performance. We are comparing, price.
Well, that's where you failed. You're comparing pricing on a product that's not even been released yet. And to be honest? Speak with your wallets if you think you're being ripped off by EVGA. Feel free to go over to EK and spend $400-500 on a liquid loop for a single GPU.
Ah....so you're ignorant to the entire reasoning and the facts behind it. Not wonder your arguments do not make sense. The price was listed when the product was announced as $119.99. The same as the functionally identical cooler. So naturally, those of us waiting for this, rightly assumed this was the official price. I mean they officially announced it and put an official price with a notifyu button. So naturally, when right before its release, the price suddenly increased by 50%, it is completely normal and rational to ask why. Frankly, I cannot see why you are arguing against your fellow consumer. Or maybe you're just entertaining yourself playing the provocateur.
I've seen pricing fluctuate all over the place on Amazon too. Do you contact their customer support and **** at them when the price increases on an item that doesn't meet your budget? Like I said, speak with your wallet. If EVGA's pricing on this is too outlandish, people simply will not purchase it. There are other options out there, which ironically are more expensive lol.
Well that is neat and literally has nothing to do with this specific incident. So, provocateur it is.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 15:07:51
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ghastlyone I've seen pricing fluctuate all over the place on Amazon too. Do you contact their customer support and **** at them when the price increases on an item that doesn't meet your budget? Like I said, speak with your wallet. If EVGA's pricing on this is too outlandish, people simply will not purchase it. There are other options out there, which ironically are more expensive lol.
LOL! Amazon often have multiple sellers competing, so of course the price varies a lot, as it does on EBay, and even Newegg now - I wouldn't be surprised to see someone trying to sell this EVGA AIO cooler for $300+, that sort of thing happens all the time on Amazon particularly. You are also wrong about other options - there are no other AIO options out there whatsoever, at least not for the Titan XP. Zero. Zilch. Nada. The old EK Predator was never a stand-alone GPU AIO, it had to be paired with a CPU cooler and thus the high expense, and that's irrelevant anyway since they took it off market back in early January. EK does have a new AIO range coming which was due to be released around now, but apparently they have advised it has been delayed to late Q2 now - meaning another 3 months, so NO there are not other AIO options at all.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 15:20:12
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1080 kit is an AIO and does fit 1080Ti/XP :P
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 15:20:49
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LVNeptune 1080 kit is an AIO and does fit 1080Ti/XP :P
Yep, with a little modding.
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