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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 06:56:24
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Extremely disappointed in this. To have a lower price advertised for quite some time just to increase it that much is not cool. Like others have iterated, it's barely modified. At least make it the 'FTW' edition for some bells and whistles at that price. Even that one for the 1080 is cheaper.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:01:52
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Hey,
Some people in here are very close minded. It is not about the price. It's more about how they jacked the price before release on account of what ? Small run ? We all saw the early price tag being cheaper. This kind of behaviour is normal but we are pissed because we SAW it happen. This happens all the time with everything you buy. Iphone anyone ? This doesn't excuse but explains it. Now that this is out of the way. Can we let go of the 50$ argument ?
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:04:30
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"small run" = good luck getting one since our site is going to crash enjoy shopping via scalpers to pay even more than +50
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:16:17
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Hey,
Yes that is quite annoying and disputable practice.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:30:34
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ghastlyone It's amazing to me that people are complaining about a $40 price increase on a product that's intended for $700, and $1200 top end enthusiast grade video cards. And, some people are purchasing 2 of these cards at a time too. $160 for a custom AiO liquid cooler? That's chump change. If you can't afford it, then stick with air cooled entry level video cards.
Seems reasonable to complain about a 33% price increase immediately before release... imagine if the Ti card itself saw a 33% price increase to over $900 because it was a "limited run".
How can something have a price increase that hasn't even released yet, or even sold a single unit? So if EVGA had put a pricing place holder up on the site for say $500 for this AiO, and then finally put the final sale price near release at the $159.99, would everyone be saying that EVGA is lowering their prices? Like I said earlier, $160 for an AiO Liquid cooler, for a top end enthusiast video card is chump change. It's incredible, people are buying $700 video cards all day long, for $2500-3000 PC builds, and then proceed to complain about a $40 increase on a single item.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 07:34:26
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:39:08
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Hey,
You do not get the point. It's not the money.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 07:39:19
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I'm hearing EK is going to hold off that model until july though.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:49:16
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Avenger411 Hey,
You do not get the point. It's not the money.
Max
Riiight. It's not about the money. While everyone proceeds to complain about $40.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 07:52:52
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ghastlyone Like I said earlier, $160 for an AiO Liquid cooler, for a top end enthusiast video card is chump change. It's incredible, people are buying $700 video cards all day long, for $2500-3000 PC builds, and then proceed to complain about a $40 increase on a single item.
Can't help but agree... I spent $700 on mine and $40 extra for the AIO isn't anything I'm worried about. Now where's that guy running the SLI $1400 GPUs crying about $40? LOL
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 08:16:34
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We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 08:36:22
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nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 08:49:41
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Wow some of the people are just impossible to reason with on here....
It's a big deal they increased the price, enough to make me start the return process for my EVGA FE... I was lrciing everything out perfectly, and a $40 increase absolutely matters when all AIB are turning out to be MUCH cheaper than everyone thought, so when other cards are all within $40 of each, and this now jumped to $40 on top, it's a. No brainer...
It's literally the exact same parts used in the 1080 version, EVGA rep has told us themselves. So they have had, and been making these parts for a while now, and it's not like they are hand crafting these things, they literally have to adjust some cut points in their machine that cranks these out, and the shroud fits from the older version
Limited run? Again, B.S.... Same parts/materials still being used.... AND pascal titan owners have been waiting a long ass time for this.
By the way, it's the actual GPU that's having stock and demand issues, not these parts that EVGA has had already for a long time... They don't even need the gpus to build these kits, so what supply issues?
And usually... Like almost always, when a company has a placeholder price, normal practice is to over estimate the price until you have the final pricing... EVGA is big enough to know that, so don't tell me its not simply to get more money and taking advantage of people being impatient right now, so will deal with the price increase either way
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 08:50:54
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nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
So your 1 card cost less then your 2 cards? Who would have thought... 4 years later 2 ti's costs 1400.00
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 09:21:28
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ghastlyone
nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
So your 1 card cost less then your 2 cards? Who would have thought... ![](https://forums.evga.com/upfiles/smiley/s12.gif) 4 years later 2 ti's costs 1400.00
Are you being obtuse on purpose? I'm comparing performance between a $1200 SLI setup from 4 years ago, to performance on a single 1080 Ti that's costs $500 cheaper. The single card solution for $500 cheaper, stomps the crap out of the dual 780's. The point is, you can get higher performance now days in a single card than what it took cost wise years ago. You're getting twice the performance for nearly 1/2 the price.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:00:58
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Limited run with a price increase is absurd. I expected better from Evga. I would like to get one of these without devoting my life to F5
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 10:08:56
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Their seems to behigh demand for these AIO's for FE 1080ti's. EVGA realizes this, increases the MSRP of their AIO. Pretty shady EVGA. I think I will go with a Strix or Gaming X now.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 10:14:06
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Stop whining there in US soil. 1080 hybrid kit in europe costs €140 , 1080 ftw hybrid kit costs €150 and now 1080Ti kit costs €180.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:17:56
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I don't get the argument that because you can afford an expensive product that you should be giddy with joy that they put a 50% premium on a accessory and their reasoning for doing so, is specious at best. Nor do I see how that as technology has advanced, that equivalent (ignoring how requirements have increased) performance has become cheaper is valid as a counter: how odd the same logic...'angle' isn't applied the AIO.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 10:20:54
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ComboSlicer Stop whining there in US soil. 1080 hybrid kit in europe costs €140 , 1080 ftw hybrid kit costs €150 and now 1080Ti kit costs €180.
People have the right to be mad about this. There is no true reason for the price increase besides greed.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:22:57
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herocrusher
ghastlyone
nanobadger We all know you can buy an small AIO like this and a GPU bracket for ~$90, you're paying for exclusivity I assume as no one else is making a hybrid kit for 1080 Ti afaik. Reminds me of how we are already getting raped by Nvidia with $700 GPUs being considered a "deal" due to lack of competition. I guess it makes sense that any related accessories are going to hurt also. You just have to take it and like it or don't buy, I don't fault either choice. I'm not buying out of principal, at $859.99 for the hybrid setup, might as well just buy a rubber fist to go with it.
I'm looking at pricing at a different angle man. Back nearly 4 years ago, I bought 2 GTX 780's for ~$1,200. 4 Years later, a single 1080 Ti for $700 ($500 cheaper) absolutely steam rolls and crushes 2 of those 780's. Using less power, generating less heat, and running far more stable. Is Nvidia "raping" us on pricing? In my eyes, not at all.
So your 1 card cost less then your 2 cards? Who would have thought... ![](https://forums.evga.com/upfiles/smiley/s12.gif) 4 years later 2 ti's costs 1400.00
Are you being obtuse on purpose? I'm comparing performance between a $1200 SLI setup from 4 years ago, to performance on a single 1080 Ti that's costs $500 cheaper. The single card solution for $500 cheaper, stomps the crap out of the dual 780's. The point is, you can get higher performance now days in a single card than what it took cost wise years ago. You're getting twice the performance for nearly 1/2 the price.
I just had to look up the definition of obtuse... and yes I'm always obtuse when I wake up. Don't mind me I was just playing devil's advocate for you.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 10:23:36
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ComboSlicer Stop whining there in US soil. 1080 hybrid kit in europe costs €140 , 1080 ftw hybrid kit costs €150 and now 1080Ti kit costs €180.
You should be on our side as this pricing would surely effect EU pricing too.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:47:13
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Why do we have 2 threads about this? I surely thought at one time I seen the 1080 hybrid kit @ $139.99, about a month or two ago. I definitely could be wrong as well. I hope the "limited run" is a decent quantity for those that will buy it.
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Re: $60 Price increase on the 1080 Ti Hybrid cooler?
2017/03/31 10:49:31
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ComboSlicer Stop whining there in US soil. 1080 hybrid kit in europe costs €140 , 1080 ftw hybrid kit costs €150 and now 1080Ti kit costs €180.
You should be on our side as this pricing would surely effect EU pricing too.
Agrees. The higher price of goods in us dollars including more bad for the prices of goods in euros and a large VAT. For me it is 23%
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:50:59
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Wow was looking forward to it, but not after this price increase ![](https://forums.evga.com/upfiles/smiley/001_huh.gif) I hope this is an early April fools joke :)
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 10:59:28
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I have two things: 1. We don't know what limited run means in this case. Is 5000 units considered limited to their vendor and the normal is 10,000 units therefore to meet their price point they have to charge more per unit. 2. I don't think the price was ever going to be $119.99. I mean holy crap, there has to be some retooling if not a complete refab of the original shell that has to go through Quality Control, fitment blah blah blah, to get the new design made so people like us don't trip because they screwed the design up. If you ever tried to purchase something in mass quantities it goes by units, the more units you buy the less each unit cost. They are just not having some guy to go in with a dremel and grind down the PCI power opening(layman term). This is big ticket item contrary to what some might think. I'm a nobody on this forum but I know how procurement and design works and it's not as simple as you might expect on any level.Not to mention every damn suit has to get involved and put their two cents in. I'd be surprised if we see the new design by summer. And they need to fire their website guy. Or i may be full of it.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:00:25
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notfordman Why do we have 2 threads about this? I surely thought at one time I seen the 1080 hybrid kit @ $139.99, about a month or two ago. I definitely could be wrong as well. I hope the "limited run" is a decent quantity for those that will buy it.
There are more than 2 and that is to make sure that this doesn't fall off the radar. The 1080 hybrid has been 119.99 for months. the 1080ti cooler was 119 for about 2 weeks, they changed it to 179 quietly. People called them out on it and reduced it to 159...still have yet to justify the increase.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:10:14
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mrbinkels I have two things: 1. We don't know what limited run means in this case. Is 5000 units considered limited to their vendor and the normal is 10,000 units therefore to meet their price point they have to charge more per unit. 2. I don't think the price was ever going to be $119.99. I mean holy crap, there has to be some retooling if not a complete refab of the original shell that has to go through Quality Control, fitment blah blah blah, to get the new design made so people like us don't trip because they screwed the design up. If you ever tried to purchase something in mass quantities it goes by units, the more units you buy the less each unit cost. They are just not having some guy to go in with a dremel and grind down the PCI power opening(layman term). This is big ticket item contrary to what some might think. I'm a nobody on this forum but I know how procurement and design works and it's not as simple as you might expect on any level.Not to mention every damn suit has to get involved and put their two cents in. I'd be surprised if we see the new design by summer. And they need to fire their website guy. Or i may be full of it. so lets say there is a retool...is it cast or CNC cut. If cast, the original mold could be duplicated and modified for next to no cost...hell..they could even modify the original if it is to be an actual replacement (assumed since it will support all previous 10xx models except FTW). If the later, that is a modification of maybe 4 or 5 lines. Yeah, it may be a quantity thing, but that is unlikely because they have been promising this for about a year and again, the backwards compatibility tells me it is more of a revision rather than a new build.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:13:57
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mrbinkels I have two things: 1. We don't know what limited run means in this case. Is 5000 units considered limited to their vendor and the normal is 10,000 units therefore to meet their price point they have to charge more per unit. 2. I don't think the price was ever going to be $119.99. I mean holy ****, there has to be some retooling if not a complete refab of the original shell that has to go through Quality Control, fitment blah blah blah, to get the new design made so people like us don't **** because they screwed the design up. If you ever tried to purchase something in mass quantities it goes by units, the more units you buy the less each unit cost. They are just not having some guy to go in with a dremel and grind down the PCI power opening(layman term). This is big ticket **** contrary to what some might think. I'm a nobody on this forum but I know how procurement and design works and it's not as simple as you might expect on any level.Not to mention every damn suit has to get involved and put their two cents in. I'd be surprised if we see the new design by summer. And they need to fire their website guy. Or i may be full of it.
That's the thing though, it's not a complete refab, its shaving off a few corners on the mid-plate. The cooling unit is exactly the same and the outer shell is exactly the same. You can see it along the bottom edge of the image here.
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Re: 1080 Ti Hybrid kit released.
2017/03/31 11:16:21
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mrbinkels I have two things: 1. We don't know what limited run means in this case. Is 5000 units considered limited to their vendor and the normal is 10,000 units therefore to meet their price point they have to charge more per unit. 2. I don't think the price was ever going to be $119.99. I mean holy ****, there has to be some retooling if not a complete refab of the original shell that has to go through Quality Control, fitment blah blah blah, to get the new design made so people like us don't **** because they screwed the design up. If you ever tried to purchase something in mass quantities it goes by units, the more units you buy the less each unit cost. They are just not having some guy to go in with a dremel and grind down the PCI power opening(layman term). This is big ticket **** contrary to what some might think. I'm a nobody on this forum but I know how procurement and design works and it's not as simple as you might expect on any level.Not to mention every damn suit has to get involved and put their two cents in. I'd be surprised if we see the new design by summer. And they need to fire their website guy. Or i may be full of it. so lets say there is a retool...is it cast or CNC cut. If cast, the original mold could be duplicated and modified for next to no cost...hell..they could even modify the original if it is to be an actual replacement (assumed since it will support all previous 10xx models except FTW). If the later, that is a modification of maybe 4 or 5 lines. Yeah, it may be a quantity thing, but that is unlikely because they have been promising this for about a year and again, the backwards compatibility tells me it is more of a revision rather than a new build.
partially deleted.........But you do have a valid point on being a revision since they say its backwards compatible.
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