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So... this was posted to Twitter today. https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF/status/817064619076251648/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw i do see a Thermal Pad... ... now the question is, what are we even looking at here? what is under the hood? and will there be a Step Up Program or some solution for all us 1080 FTW or better said ACX 3.0 owners who will now feel shafted all over again because of the entire Thermal Pad thing? //edit: i'll add some CES news coverage and tl;dr of the more important statements so we can reduce speculation in the thread a little. official website: http://www.evga.com/icx/ ---- GTX 1070 FTW2: GTX 1070 SC2: JayZTwoCents : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHMKBusyUo8&t=5m30s - samples of GTX 1070 "FTW2" and "SC2" on display, seems the entire ACX 3.0 lineup is affected - new Backplate (more air vents, possibly better heat dissipation on the back of the PCB) - Heatsink is mounted better, the original was only connected by 4 screws around the GPU which resulted in the Heatsink sagging down from the PCB (which my card suffers from as well) TechPowerUp article: https://www.techpowerup.com/229354/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-and-gtx-1070-ftw2-and-sc2-graphics-cards-pictured(additional pictures) - GeForce GTX 1070 SC2 (model: 08G-P4-6573-KR) GeForce GTX 1070 FTW2 (08G-P4-6676KR) GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 (08G-P4-6686-KR). - redesigned the PCBs ... from the ground up - draw power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors. - It [EVGA] plans to replace the current SC, FTW, and possibly Classified series graphics cards from its product stack, with these new cards. wccftech article (stated source TechPowerUp): http://wccftech.com/evga-geforce-10-icx-cooling-new-pcb-vrm/ - "The cards are also featuring a new PCB design that’s built from scratch. This was done to ensure that the new cards aren’t affected by faulty components or failing VRMs that were used on the older ACX variants." GamersNexus : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toE8OcmWv6Y&t=30s - ventilated backplate - thermal pads on VRAM, VRM/Capacitor/Mosfet area - "will exist, side by side, at least for now with ACX but at different price points" <- inconsistent statement to the TechPower article??? - actively cooled VRAM by contact (i can't see what he is talking about in the video, maybe i'm blind, but it certainly sounds better than the NOT touching thermal pads that i had in my card.) ----------- for the record: these cards are not released yet, there is no point in asking Customer Support about them until they get word from higher up if there is going to be a Step Up program or anything at all. The Moderators here are also not having any special information that we don't. Please refrain from getting sucked into back and forth arguments, i know it is the internet and people love to argue their point to infinity and beyond, but other people also like to be able to see opinions and feedback of OTHER people and if there is actual new information it would be nice if it isn't overshadowed by petty back and forth arguments that keep going on for pages... keep it civil, the Moderators still have to do their actual job, even when bad language seems trivial to pay attention to in the overall context, lets not give them reason to "moderate" you.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 11:50:30
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Going to be interesting to see what other changes made...
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 12:00:47
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I kind of want to know what is different between ACX 3.0 and this new iCX cooler.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 13:18:21
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I know this is the graphics card hub, but no one is going to mention the EVGA water cooled CPU block?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 13:23:19
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How will this affect the resale value of current ACX 3.0 cards? I would suggest a free sticker programme for all those who've implimented the thermal mod. You can place the sticker on the body of your cards cooler (somewhere designated by EVGA) to say you've had the "ICX upgrade".? Unless there's actually more to it than just the pads e.t.c.? P.S. Many people who upgrade everytime there's a new release; rely heavily upon getting their old card sold at a decent price to generate cash between 1/3rd and 1/2 the cost of the upgrade.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 13:32:43
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Hmm, need more information obviously, but I hope this doesn't mean we current FTW owners were all basically just full price beta testers for them :/
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 14:21:10
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Ranmacanada I know this is the graphics card hub, but no one is going to mention the EVGA water cooled CPU block?
It's not new, was showed off last year too. Asetek based system with QDCs and pumps and they are making GPU AIO blocks also with QDCs so you can connect them all.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 15:41:01
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LEDs and backplate look great.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 16:40:07
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vsg28
Ranmacanada I know this is the graphics card hub, but no one is going to mention the EVGA water cooled CPU block?
It's not new, was showed off last year too. Asetek based system with QDCs and pumps and they are making GPU AIO blocks also with QDCs so you can connect them all.
I want see these since that would leave an upgrade path for cooling without buying new everything. I personally want to know more about the cooler since it is not ACX 3.0 branded.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 16:56:28
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Lol ... nice way to replace the coolers of the old FTW cards. Sigh ... I better hope we can "Step Up" to the new cooler. I had to do 3 RMA's to get this thing in working order.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 17:03:55
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Any idea on an ETA? Was literally just looking at upgrading.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 17:56:46
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TheGuz4L Lol ... nice way to replace the coolers of the old FTW cards. Sigh ... I better hope we can "Step Up" to the new cooler. I had to do 3 RMA's to get this thing in working order.
My GTX 1070 FTW wasn't too bad and I only ordered the thermal mod since it was recommended not because I thought it was needed. I also had more issues with 1070s when I tried to activate SLI between 2 cards on the Z170 FTW board and they pulled some weird stuff since I have 2 panels but don't use surround at all times.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 21:15:39
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Waiting on my 1080 FTW RMA right now... not really happy to see a 'new product' that might be replacing my current FTW. It looks shorter too. height wise, not length wise.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 21:38:13
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I don't appreciate that the value of current cards will drop. It appears to be a major redesign which means the previous one was faulty. I don't think anyone is happy if you read the twitter post.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 21:44:11
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this is complete bs you should honor ftw owners a replacement with this card,or a refund
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 21:46:53
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mkrazymike this is complete bs you should honor ftw owners a replacement with this card,or a dam refund
Calling EVGA tomorrow. Sorry, I didn't drop my money on EVGA 1070 and 1080 so I can suck up with some ghetto pads fix.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 22:07:50
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pkdpkd
mkrazymike this is complete bs you should honor ftw owners a replacement with this card,or a dam refund
Calling EVGA tomorrow. Sorry, I didn't drop my money on EVGA 1070 and 1080 so I can suck up with some ghetto pads fix.
same calling them tomorrow myself this is a pure slap on the face to the FTW 1 owners
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/05 22:38:35
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Seriously. Lack of shame. They screw the pooch and now design the cooling solution that they should have in the first place and have the gall to act like it's an amazing new product. EVGA beta testers confirmed.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:10:06
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http://www.evga.com/icx/ "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:16:03
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WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product well knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:20:25
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WMcCravey http://www.evga.com/icx/ "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
mkrazymike
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
Nothing was wrong with the older cards. http://www.gamersnexus.ne...and-analysis?showall=1
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:27:56
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WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
mkrazymike
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
Nothing was wrong with the older cards.
nothing was wrong with them?so why the need for the vram thermal pads?and my card over giving me issues?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:50:47
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This makes me really unhappy. I spent $680 on my FTW, and it's needed to be replaced 3 times, with the current one having major overheating that'll probably lead to it being replaced as well. I feel like I just paid to be a beta tester for this GPU.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:51:37
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mkrazymike
Sajin
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
mkrazymike
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
Nothing was wrong with the older cards.
nothing was wrong with them?so why the need for the vram thermal pads?and my card over giving me issues?
Additional thermal pads were offered just in case users wanted to lower their temps further.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 00:54:12
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Sajin
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Sajin
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
mkrazymike
WMcCravey "Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
Nothing was wrong with the older cards.
nothing was wrong with them?so why the need for the vram thermal pads?and my card over giving me issues?
Additional thermal pads were offered just in case users wanted to lower their temps further.
Did you also buy the bridge in Brooklyn?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 02:21:02
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Hello all, We do appreciate the feedback regarding the products being shown at CES 2017. Please keep in mind that we currently have no details regarding these items and some are considered proof of concept. Regarding the iCX/FTW2, please stay tuned for further information coming in the near future which will be displayed here: http://www.evga.com/icx/ Again, thank you for your feedback, any further concerns can be emailed to webmaster@evga.com, but please note again that we have no further details at this time.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 03:02:44
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I would like to add that we value all opinions here but when you post avoid the swearing and cursing as well as abbreviations of cursing terms. Further violations of the EVGA forum rules will result in warnings.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 03:04:36
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Bar81
Sajin
mkrazymike
Sajin
WMcCravey
"Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
mkrazymike
WMcCravey
"Game with safety and piece of mind" So you are flat out saying that the old FTW cards are unsafe?
pretty much,this is a shame by evga i spent thousands of dollars on there product knowing they screwed up?again either rma our cards for this one or refund us simple.
Nothing was wrong with the older cards.
nothing was wrong with them?so why the need for the vram thermal pads?and my card over giving me issues?
Additional thermal pads were offered just in case users wanted to lower their temps further.
Did you also buy the bridge in Brooklyn?
The bios update was because the cards were too quiet. :P
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!?
2017/01/06 03:04:59
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So is the difference between the icx and ACX3.0 the inclusion of thermal pads or what lol? edit - the backplate looks thicker, but I can't spot any other differences
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