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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/28 06:30:33 (permalink)
One thing I wonder about with the ICX, is that now that it's cooling parts that weren't cooled or cooled very much, how will that affect the cooling of the GPU? the card's HSF will have all that extra heat from all the parts like VRM/Vram to deal with in addition to the GPU heat.
Saw a review about the FTW Hybrid cooler, and it showed that because it cooled the Vram, it cooled the GPU less effectively than when the plate that connected to the VRAM was removed and it just cooled the GPU. and it was a difference of I think 4-5c? will need to find that article again.
 
The question being, how well can the cooler work now that it has just that much more to cool?
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/28 07:49:48 (permalink)
EVGA ICX Cooler Detailed for FTW2 & SC2 Cards, New CLC Analyzed - gamersnexus This is the most information I have seen. 
 
I like the play on the name - ICX --> to me it looks like you would pronounce it: "ICY X" --> Frozen X card

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/28 08:00:08 (permalink)
Evga better release the icx before I go Asus! Can't wait!

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/28 08:11:12 (permalink)
first was a 8800 last will be a 1080ftw
other than b-stock maybe, but no more new evga cards for me, wait for ftw3,4.....
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/29 07:40:49 (permalink)
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One thing I wonder about with the ICX, is that now that it's cooling parts that weren't cooled or cooled very much, how will that affect the cooling of the GPU? the card's HSF will have all that extra heat from all the parts like VRM/Vram to deal with in addition to the GPU heat.
Saw a review about the FTW Hybrid cooler, and it showed that because it cooled the Vram, it cooled the GPU less effectively than when the plate that connected to the VRAM was removed and it just cooled the GPU. and it was a difference of I think 4-5c? will need to find that article again.
 
The question being, how well can the cooler work now that it has just that much more to cool?




The report you saw was on GamersNexus. It was a review of the MSi Seahwk and comparison between it and the FTW Hybrid and their own modded WC card.
I was in the process of doing my own mod that you mention, removing the copper plate that extends over the VRAM and instead using copper heatsinks on them when I got my EVGA Hybrid conversion for my FTW.
However, when I did the conversion, using GC Extreme paste and having the fans in push/pull, I found that my idle temps were 28C (lower or inline with those in the article) and that under bench loads in FS and Time Spy my temps never went over 45C Core clocks throttling down at 43C. Because the Pascal temp throttles every 10-12C I would not have seen any benefit in performance (Core Clock) by losing 4-5C (if that occurred at all) but there may very well have been a reduction in my VRAM OC due to the lessened ability of the heatsink mod to dissipate the het from those chips. My VRM can be OC as high as +850 though I dont keep it at that preferring to dial it back to around 700. The heat from the 3 chips closest to the VRM bank can be substantially higher and therefore need more efficient cooling to my mind than just heat sinks as there is not really any way to measure the ability of the fan on the VRM heatsink to help move that hot air out of the housing of the vard or blow across the heatsinks to help cool the VRAM.
 
All that being said, I still have the sinks sitting here and may at some point give the mod a go to see exactly if there is any improvement.


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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/29 11:28:27 (permalink)
No, the article was about the ICX as it states that over a dozen times, though my original post got fragged because i'm using my Tablet and not my PC.
 
I do hope however that the New ICX GPU's come out this week or next week at the latest, as February 10th is the last day i have to be able to Step-up to anything from my 980Ti. ;/

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/01/29 11:31:27 (permalink)
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EVGA ICX Cooler Detailed for FTW2 & SC2 Cards, New CLC Analyzed - gamersnexus This is the most information I have seen. 
 
I like the play on the name - ICX --> to me it looks like you would pronounce it: "ICY X" --> Frozen X card




Yes, i noticed it does also sound like that sometimes as well. :}

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/04 19:33:23 (permalink)
For those that haven't been watching the computer industry news section, Asus, Gigabyte, and Palit have all announced new 1070/1080's.. because, like many others said, non other company is releasing new 1080's this late in the game.

Looks like they actually are.

Asus even said their new cards are to im prove longevity and durability.. weird choice for wording, right? Since you know, why would a company ever say something like that and make it sound like their old cards weren't durable..

Maybe over time multiple companies realized there was a way to improve their designs, and they are...
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/05 06:44:11 (permalink)
Been a month since they announced this...still no details? Would love to know more about it

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/05 08:49:12 (permalink)
Yes same here, soon nvidia releases their new chip before EVGA gets their act together and finally releases their working 1080

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/05 09:16:45 (permalink)
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Yes same here, soon nvidia releases their new chip before EVGA gets their act together and finally releases their working 1080


EVGA's current 1080 isn't "working"?

After all the uproar in this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if EVGA dragged its heels so that iCX is released in conjunction with a new product.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/06 12:31:26 (permalink)
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Yes same here, soon nvidia releases their new chip before EVGA gets their act together and finally releases their working 1080


EVGA's current 1080 isn't "working"?

After all the uproar in this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if EVGA dragged its heels so that iCX is released in conjunction with a new product.


I kept my New EVGA GTX 1080 SC. I purchased it on December 28th and it came with the BIOS update and thermal pads. It's been good to me so far and I couldn't be happier. So to answer your initial question yes my GPU works like a champ ATM. I have also used the GPU extensively since I received it

I'm just buying the extended warranty and hoping for the best because of the issues others have had with the BIOS and thermal pad issue. Like I have stated before EVGA has always taken good care of my products threw out the years and actually exceeded my expectations honestly.

My GPU looks like a sexy best in my PC so I'm happy as long as it doesn't have any problems.

I think my overclock is really decent as well on the GPU side. I believe I average 2050mhz with a + 110 offset on the GPU and the memory offset not so much@ +250 with Micron memory running upwards to 74 degrees Celsius.

This is also over the factory overclock stated and advertised by EVGA which is good enough for me.

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/06 14:30:39 (permalink)
There was nothing ever technically wrong with EVGA ACX 3.0 cards.
 
Core Temps & Memory temps were good.  That's what determines your overclock.
 
The only problem, was that during Furmark (a power virus programme) VRM (voltage regulator module) temps were running "marginally within spec".
 
To prolong the life of cards for customers who like to FREQUENTLY stress their cards to the LIMITS, EVGA done what no other company would do!
 
Any other company would say "its within spec -- no further comment".  But due to EVGA's amazing customer service they decided to release a FREE THERMAL PAD MOD (optional) to ensure lower VRM temps for all ACX 3.0 cards!
 
EVGA were completely upon, upfront & honest.  They done the "right thing" and got bad press because of it.  I bet the bosses at EVGA are wishing they done what every other company would have done, right now... due to everyone's whining!
 
No other company allows you to take the heat-sink off your card (to re-apply thermal paste) or put it under water, while keeping your warranty intact.
 
Due to the intense scrutiny that ACX 3.0 VRM temps have had as a result of the press, they now run cooler than any other manufacturers card on the market. -- no other cards magically have better VRM temps than EVGA'S ACX 3.0. 
 
ACX 3.0 delivers (the same) or BETTER core GPU temps than all other manufacturers.  If the thermal pad between Heatsink & VRM hadn't been overlooked in the first instance, this would never have happened.  one thermal pad guys, which adds more thermal connections between VRM with heatsink.
 
ICX 3.0 is just a further 'revision' designed to fix the reputation tarnishing done by peoples opinion of the press releases. - People always remember the bad things, but rarely remember the good!
 
I'll remind everyone that in the end, the press actually stuck up for EVGA too!
 
Anyone who owns a card that has "issues" -- these issues are NOT linked to the 'thermal pad VRM issue'.  They are normal manufacturing defects that less than 1% of customers experience no matter what GPU manufacturer they decided to go with.  People are very wrong to link these other issues they are having with the 'VRM thermal pad' issue.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/07 01:50:06 (permalink)
nrpeytonDue to the intense scrutiny that ACX 3.0 VRM temps have had as a result of the press, they now run cooler than any other manufacturers card on the market. -- no other cards magically have better VRM temps than EVGA'S ACX 3.0. 

 
Galaxy HOF has lower temps on vrm. About 14 - 6ºc lower on GTX 1080.
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/07 02:58:37 (permalink)
The HOF is in a different category (like that of the EVGA 1080 Classified)
 
The Classified also has a bigger ACX 3.0 heat-sink, bigger & cooler than all other cards in the ACX 3.0 line-up :-)
 
And also completely unaffected by the Thermal Pad issue.


 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/07 06:17:34 (permalink)
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For those that haven't been watching the computer industry news section, Asus, Gigabyte, and Palit have all announced new 1070/1080's.. because, like many others said, non other company is releasing new 1080's this late in the game.

Looks like they actually are.

Asus even said their new cards are to im prove longevity and durability.. weird choice for wording, right? Since you know, why would a company ever say something like that and make it sound like their old cards weren't durable..

Maybe over time multiple companies realized there was a way to improve their designs, and they are...



And early buyers are still saddled with garbage.

Never again.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/07 06:19:35 (permalink)
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And early buyers are still saddled with garbage.

Never again.


That is why I have never been an early adopters. I doubt I buy the custom pcb's any more, just so I can save money find waterblocks cheaper. We'll see as time goes on.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 00:39:01 (permalink)
@ nrpeyton
Ok, let me remind you that my card (including numerous other) had no contact at all between VRAM and VRAM PADS! After the "optional mod" there was no contact between the heatsink and the pad on the baseplate because the heatsing is sagging, so I have to use a rubber band to keep those together! And you are saying to me that there was "nothing ever technically wrong with EVGA ACX 3.0 cards"? Are you serious?? Are you actually using one of those cards or just trolling? Does it look to you like an experience worth 530€?
 
Car oil is also optional because the car will run without it, even the tires are optional... But for how long and how smooth will it drive without oil and tires??????? Optional my a..
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 02:28:02 (permalink)
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nrpeytonDue to the intense scrutiny that ACX 3.0 VRM temps have had as a result of the press, they now run cooler than any other manufacturers card on the market. -- no other cards magically have better VRM temps than EVGA'S ACX 3.0. 

 
Galaxy HOF has lower temps on vrm. About 14 - 6ºc lower on GTX 1080.
 


the galax hof's vrms dont even need a heatsink cool them. ir3555 is for ln2 and even on ln2 with more than 1000w drawn at peak, this mosfet doesnt need to be cared about its temp.
 
so, if evga want to get rid of vrm temp problem, instead of changing the whole vrm cooling, evga can simply use ir3555.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:03:57 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:14:21 (permalink)
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Some iCX cooling details:
 
https://videocardz.com/65789/evga-icx-technology-detailed
 


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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:31:00 (permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDWGkmf1Xs
Some more about icx.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:38:48 (permalink)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDWGkmf1Xs
Some more about icx.


If you use the share link instead of the url, you can use the [ tube ] (no spaces)share link here [/ tube] and embed the video.

Like this :-)

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:42:15 (permalink)
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stathisgtr

Some more about icx.


If you use the share link instead of the url, you can use the [ tube ] (no spaces)share link here [/ tube] and embed the video.

Like this :-)



Thank you Scarlet-Tech 😀
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:51:54 (permalink)
Release this Friday for the 1080 FTW and SC, sorry i didnt have time to do it right Scarlet-Tech.://videochttpsardz.com/65740/evga-to-launch-ftw2-and-sc2-geforce-models-this-friday

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 09:53:42 (permalink)
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Release this Friday for the 1080 FTW and SC, sorry i didnt have time to do it right Scarlet-Tech. https://videoscardz.com/6...rce-models-this-friday


That's a link to the article just before stathisgtr :-) I only know how to embed the videos to show lol.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 10:12:29 (permalink)
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Release this Friday for the 1080 FTW and SC, sorry i didnt have time to do it right Scarlet-Tech. https://videoscardz.com/6...rce-models-this-friday


That's a link to the article just before stathisgtr :-) I only know how to embed the videos to show lol.



yeah, i noticed i was missing the real address when the link wouldn't show up. Yeah, for once i could've been the first to post the Link for the iCX GPU's, now someone slse will have lol.
 
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 10:15:36 (permalink)
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yeah, i noticed i was missing the real address when the link wouldn't show up. Yeah, for once i could've been the first to post the Link for the iCX GPU's, now someone slse will have lol.


The fact you are helping provide any info is great. The link you give is actually different, so you have that.

As far as the thermal sensors on the card, I know people have been asking for that for years, and the only card I ever owned that had a single vrm sensor was the 980 Kingpin, so I am stoked to see this move to provide multiple new thermal sensors on the board.

I can't wait to see more about the cards. I see that kyle didn't mention that the cooler itself is now attached to the board as well, rather than just being attached to the core.
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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 10:22:30 (permalink)
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yeah, i noticed i was missing the real address when the link wouldn't show up. Yeah, for once i could've been the first to post the Link for the iCX GPU's, now someone slse will have lol.


The fact you are helping provide any info is great. The link you give is actually different, so you have that.

As far as the thermal sensors on the card, I know people have been asking for that for years, and the only card I ever owned that had a single vrm sensor was the 980 Kingpin, so I am stoked to see this move to provide multiple new thermal sensors on the board.

I can't wait to see more about the cards. I see that kyle didn't mention that the cooler itself is now attached to the board as well, rather than just being attached to the core.

 I love this Icy-X=iCX GPU's the thermal Temps changed from at least 2-5 degrees Celsius which can be a lot, also in my opinion i would think theses iCX GPU's could maybe cool even more. When i first saw these specially vented GPU's I immediately knew that they were the things to get. I will definitely try to get this GPU.  :)

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Re: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with iCX cooling !?!?!? 2017/02/09 10:31:58 (permalink)
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Some iCX cooling details:
 
https://videocardz.com/65789/evga-icx-technology-detailed
 


Nice link
 
More information than I had seen before
 
The fuse is something I'm surprised to see

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