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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 02:45:31 (permalink)
I still have yet to see good detailed instructions/pictures/videos of somebody performing this mod. I am fairly comfortable with mucking around inside a PC, and I have built several in my life, but I must say that I have never taken apart a video card. I have seen several people respond to people asking how to perform this mod with responses like "it's easy; you will be fine", which doesn't really say much. I think there are 2 plates on the back of these video cards which can be removed? To be honest, I know that the TIM needs to be cleaned and replaced on the GPU die, which I am comfortable doing, but I am still not sure where to put these thermal pads. To be completely honest, I am not even completely sure where the VRM or VRAM is, or what exactly they look like.

Any chance of some really specific instructions here?
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 02:50:22 (permalink)
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Since I live in Brazil, and EVGA probably wont ship it to me, which thickness should fit properly on the board? 1mm or 2mm ? Gonna buy it myself.
I had a GTX 780 ACX sc that died because the VRM. I won't let it happen to my 1070 FTW, at least, not soon...


I would like to know the same thing if possible. What is the thickness of the thermal pad that has to be used? 
Also if I understood correctly, the thermalpad placement should be between the PCB and the backplate am I right?
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 02:52:06 (permalink)

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 03:07:15 (permalink)
NucleusX
lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI


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okay, evga is right about the overheating vrm would not cause fire. 
lets hope this is an independent case...
 
 
post edited by acxcoolerssuck - 2016/10/31 04:07:09
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 04:09:41 (permalink)
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NucleusX
lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI


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okay, evga is right about the overheating vrm would not cause fire. 
lets hope this is an independent case...
 
 




Oh dear, Boards all over the world is blowing up.
I'am scared. 


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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 04:13:50 (permalink)
Btw, what is the status on your thermal pad? Mines says:  Your request is awaiting approval."
I requested it 25/10.
 
But again I live in Brazil, so I don't have much faith that I'll receive those.


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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 04:48:11 (permalink)
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NucleusX
lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI


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okay, evga is right about the overheating vrm would not cause fire. 
lets hope this is an independent case...
 
 


That looks exactly like a faulty VRM imho.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 04:53:04 (permalink)
Angier_1985
 
That looks exactly like a faulty VRM imho.




Indeed, this one is not over heating related. Its definitely faulty component.


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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 05:24:50 (permalink)
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lol check this out ! 


Now that's what i call firing up your card.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 05:26:51 (permalink)
Any word on if the Thermal Pads being sent out will include VRAM pads too? We've been seeing reports of those pads being too small and not making correct contact between the chips and baseplate apparently. 

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 05:34:33 (permalink)
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Any word on if the Thermal Pads being sent out will include VRAM pads too? We've been seeing reports of those pads being too small and not making correct contact between the chips and baseplate apparently. 


i submitted a ticket few days ago but still not yet be responded.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 05:52:12 (permalink)
Hey guys, first time posting here. 
Bought my 1070 FTW just a month ago, and so far so good. Never had any issue with it.
 
But, regarding this so called issue, all in all, EVGA states our cards don't need the thermal pad mod, as they will work as intended and "within spec." That's all good. But will EVGA guarantee us customers, those significantly higher VRM temps, compared to other vendors, won't contribute to a premature hardware failure? 
This is, of course, if some of us just don't want to take apart our cards to install said pads. 
Speaking for myself, I did request the thermal pad mod, but even though I think it's not such an ordeal to take apart the graphics card, I'm a bit reticent since it wasn't cheap. 
On the other hand, RMA'ing the card to have those installed doesn't sit well too, since I really don't want to get a refurb that who knows what the previous owner did to it.
This is probably what many other owners have in their mind, and what EVGA needs to clarify.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:06:48 (permalink)
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Hey guys, first time posting here. 
Bought my 1070 FTW just a month ago, and so far so good. Never had any issue with it.
 
But, regarding this so called issue, all in all, EVGA states our cards don't need the thermal pad mod, as they will work as intended and "within spec." That's all good. But will EVGA guarantee us customers, those significantly higher VRM temps, compared to other vendors, won't contribute to a premature hardware failure? 
This is, of course, if some of us just don't want to take apart our cards to install said pads. 
Speaking for myself, I did request the thermal pad mod, but even though I think it's not such an ordeal to take apart the graphics card, I'm a bit reticent since it wasn't cheap. 
On the other hand, RMA'ing the card to have those installed doesn't sit well too, since I really don't want to get a refurb that who knows what the previous owner did to it.
This is probably what many other owners have in their mind, and what EVGA needs to clarify.




I think they're basically saying that regardless of if you do the thermal pad mod or not, EVGA's 3 year warranty applies in this case. So if your VRM explodes 3.1 years down the road, you're probably not going to be able to get a free replacement. 

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:09:01 (permalink)
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I think they're basically saying that regardless of if you do the thermal pad mod or not, EVGA's 3 year warranty applies in this case. So if your VRM explodes 3.1 years down the road, you're probably not going to be able to get a free replacement. 


Yeah, that's exactly what worries me. Either way, I'll probably install the thermal pads just for peace of mind.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:13:39 (permalink)
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whitezero
 
I think they're basically saying that regardless of if you do the thermal pad mod or not, EVGA's 3 year warranty applies in this case. So if your VRM explodes 3.1 years down the road, you're probably not going to be able to get a free replacement. 


Yeah, that's exactly what worries me. Either way, I'll probably install the thermal pads just for peace of mind.




For sure, seems like an easy enough process. And in the process, you can opt to put on a higher quality TIM (thermal paste) for the GPU itself for even better thermals than before the mod. I've been considering going with the GELID GC-Extreme, myself.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:18:25 (permalink)
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whitezero
 
I think they're basically saying that regardless of if you do the thermal pad mod or not, EVGA's 3 year warranty applies in this case. So if your VRM explodes 3.1 years down the road, you're probably not going to be able to get a free replacement. 


Yeah, that's exactly what worries me. Either way, I'll probably install the thermal pads just for peace of mind.




For sure, seems like an . And in the process, you can opt to put on a higher quality TIM (thermal paste) for the GPU itself for even better thermals than before the mod. I've been considering going with the GELID GC-Extreme, myself.


Yeah. I still have a bit of AS5, but I'll probably get a good ceramic based paste.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:20:57 (permalink)
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whitezero
 
I think they're basically saying that regardless of if you do the thermal pad mod or not, EVGA's 3 year warranty applies in this case. So if your VRM explodes 3.1 years down the road, you're probably not going to be able to get a free replacement. 


Yeah, that's exactly what worries me. Either way, I'll probably install the thermal pads just for peace of mind.




For sure, seems like an . And in the process, you can opt to put on a higher quality TIM (thermal paste) for the GPU itself for even better thermals than before the mod. I've been considering going with the GELID GC-Extreme, myself.


Yeah. I still have a bit of AS5, but I'll probably get a good ceramic based paste.




Yeah AS5 may not be the best choice, there are a lot of other paste's out there that do a better job on GPUs.  http://www.tomshardware.c...benchmark,3616-20.html
 
And EVGA may include some paste with the mod as well.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:25:15 (permalink)
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lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI




The PCI connectors are not plugged into the card?

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:25:54 (permalink)
whitezero
 
Yeah AS5 may not be the best choice, there are a lot of other paste's out there that do a better job on GPUs.  
 
And EVGA may include some paste with the mod as well.




Yeah, I think I'm going with Thermalright CF 3, since it appears no retailer carries Gelid stuff where I live. Plus it's ceramic based.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:31:00 (permalink)
NucleusX
lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI




Look closely - he doesn't have the 2 8-pin power adapters connected.
 
Still shouldn't have popped though.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:31:07 (permalink)
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Hi DSP1,
 
I can confirm that we are on the same page here.  
 
The thermal pads are in no way required and completely optional as mentioned previously, but if a customer would like us to help them with exchanging their card through warranty to install these optional thermal pads then we are willing to do this even though they are not necessary.  We just want our customers to be happy with their product and if lower temps are preferred then we we willing to help with this.
 
I can confirm that Jacob is one of our product managers and he has access to all of the ins and outs and anything that he says is true.  I am just trying to explain that the cards are running within spec and not overheating without this optional mod.
 
 




Hey Chris,
 
Does this also apply for GTX 1080 Classified cards ? I don't see anyone asking about the Classified, but it has the same cooler as the FTW. I am currently in an RMA for a different problem, I am within 30 days of purchase so I would be getting a brand new replacement card, but would I get a new Classified with the thermal pads installed at the factory ?
 
Thanks.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:33:27 (permalink)
MX4 tested and did no difference compared to the original, but the coollaboratory liquid pro yield difference of 4º.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:34:56 (permalink)
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lol check this out ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-VaOPOvgI




Recall time.
EVGA is saying there is reports that other brands also catching fire but if you make some google search, only EVGA 1070/1080 series catching fire.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:49:21 (permalink)
EVGA should release a video showing where to install the pad thermal so that customers could do without waiting for sending the thermal pads.
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 06:51:40 (permalink)
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EVGA should release a video showing where to install the pad thermal so that customers could do without waiting for sending the thermal pads.




Well you'll also need the right size/shape thermal pad as well, to make proper contact and not effect the mounting pressure on the other components. I think overall it's best to wait for EVGA's own provided pads.

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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 07:00:54 (permalink)
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Leonardohlb
EVGA should release a video showing where to install the pad thermal so that customers could do without waiting for sending the thermal pads.




Well you'll also need the right size/shape thermal pad as well, to make proper contact and not effect the mounting pressure on the other components. I think overall it's best to wait for EVGA's own provided pads.


When i wanted to change the thermal pad i contacted the evga by ticket they told me it can be any thermal pad 1.0mm thick, and at least 11.0 W / mK.

"I apologize for the inconvenience but unfortunately we don't sell those or have any to give out since they already come pre-installed from the factory. However, you can purchase those online and the thickness is 1.0mm.

We are here 24/7 if you have other questions or concerns, thank you."

Saudções,
EVGA
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"We don't have any brand that we can recommend but you can use 11.0 W/mK for conductivity."

Saudções,
EVGA
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 07:03:58 (permalink)
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Leonardohlb
EVGA should release a video showing where to install the pad thermal so that customers could do without waiting for sending the thermal pads.




Well you'll also need the right size/shape thermal pad as well, to make proper contact and not effect the mounting pressure on the other components. I think overall it's best to wait for EVGA's own provided pads.


When i wanted to change the thermal pad i contacted the evga by ticket they told me it can be any thermal pad 1.0mm thick, and at least 11.0 W / mK.

"I apologize for the inconvenience but unfortunately we don't sell those or have any to give out since they already come pre-installed from the factory. However, you can purchase those online and the thickness is 1.0mm.

We are here 24/7 if you have other questions or concerns, thank you."

Saudções,
EVGA
image



"We don't have any brand that we can recommend but you can use 11.0 W/mK for conductivity."

Saudções,
EVGA
image


thermal pad is soft, so dont buy 1mm, go for 1.5mm will be better, imo
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 07:05:10 (permalink)
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Leonardohlb
EVGA should release a video showing where to install the pad thermal so that customers could do without waiting for sending the thermal pads.




Well you'll also need the right size/shape thermal pad as well, to make proper contact and not effect the mounting pressure on the other components. I think overall it's best to wait for EVGA's own provided pads.


When i wanted to change the thermal pad i contacted the evga by ticket they told me it can be any thermal pad 1.0mm thick, and at least 11.0 W / mK.

"I apologize for the inconvenience but unfortunately we don't sell those or have any to give out since they already come pre-installed from the factory. However, you can purchase those online and the thickness is 1.0mm.

We are here 24/7 if you have other questions or concerns, thank you."

Saudções,
EVGA
image



"We don't have any brand that we can recommend but you can use 11.0 W/mK for conductivity."

Saudções,
EVGA
image


thermal pad is soft, so dont buy 1mm, go for 1.5mm will be better, imo


Excuse me this thermal pad is not for the mosfet but for the GPU, probably for that mosfet is 2.0mm
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 07:09:23 (permalink)
My thermal pads is awaiting for confirmation as well, from Malaysia. I doubt evga will even respond to this lol
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Re: bad(HOT) PCB Layout on GTX 1070 FTW? 2016/10/31 07:15:56 (permalink)
11.0W/mk ?!?!?!? JEZZZZZ
 
Where I'll find those, the best I found is a Arctic with 6.0 W/mK
 
EDIT: well, googling for 11.0W/mk, there is plenty out there. But it is expensive...


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