blaise
Couldn't justify an Apex board, they're charging $AU1300 for that board in Australia ($AU1060 for the 12900K). The Hero is only $AU100 less but I got it bundled with a 12900K for $AU2049 (should get it tomorrow or the day after). I swear, the computer stores in Australia should ask "Would you like lube to help with your purchase?" because Aussies are getting royally shafted this round. The Hero, Apex & Formula boards are around 40% dearer than their Z590 predecessors.

CraptacularOne
I have my 12700K running at 5.2Ghz P core and 4.1Ghz E core so far and it does help a bit, but I'd have to concur with the video in that for the most part if you have an "AI" or "auto OC" feature on your board to just use that and then back off on the voltages a bit to reach an acceptable voltage or temp you're looking for and the performance will largely be the same if you're just doing regular stuff like gaming or any rendering work. 
 
The thumbnail can be a bit misleading since I do think it's worth it to overclock 12gen Intel CPUs to at least get them running at a 5Ghz all P core and 4Ghz E core speed as you can see measurable differences in most workloads at those speeds up from stock. 
 
However perhaps the most interesting thing is playing around with the gear ratios and memory. Either I got a really strong memory controller in my 12700K or they have made a substantial improvement to the IMC over 11th gen. With my previous 11700K I was only barely able to get the memory to run in Gear 1 with 4000Mhz memory (2000Mhz 1:1 ratio) and that was with quite a bit of added voltage to VCCIO2 and having to slacken the timings on the memory. With this 12700K I'm able to run 4400Mhz in Gear 1 (2200Mhz 1:1 ratio) and keep tighter timings of CL 16-19-19-42 with my memory. Though 4500 seems to be a hard wall in Gear 1 as no matter what I do it keeps failing to post unless it's allowed to default to Gear 2. 

CraptacularOne

Nereus

CraptacularOne
I have my 12700K running at 5.2Ghz P core and 4.1Ghz E core so far and it does help a bit, but I'd have to concur with the video in that for the most part if you have an "AI" or "auto OC" feature on your board to just use that and then back off on the voltages a bit to reach an acceptable voltage or temp you're looking for and the performance will largely be the same if you're just doing regular stuff like gaming or any rendering work. 
 
The thumbnail can be a bit misleading since I do think it's worth it to overclock 12gen Intel CPUs to at least get them running at a 5Ghz all P core and 4Ghz E core speed as you can see measurable differences in most workloads at those speeds up from stock. 
 
However perhaps the most interesting thing is playing around with the gear ratios and memory. Either I got a really strong memory controller in my 12700K or they have made a substantial improvement to the IMC over 11th gen. With my previous 11700K I was only barely able to get the memory to run in Gear 1 with 4000Mhz memory (2000Mhz 1:1 ratio) and that was with quite a bit of added voltage to VCCIO2 and having to slacken the timings on the memory. With this 12700K I'm able to run 4400Mhz in Gear 1 (2200Mhz 1:1 ratio) and keep tighter timings of CL 16-19-19-42 with my memory. Though 4500 seems to be a hard wall in Gear 1 as no matter what I do it keeps failing to post unless it's allowed to default to Gear 2. 

4400Mhz in Gear 1 @ C16 is friggin impressive!  edit: Wait, that's DDR5 though right, I had DDR4 settings running through my mind.

No, I'm on a DDR4 variant of Z690. This is with my Corsair Dominator Platinum kit that has Samsung B-die ICs though.

blaise

skyline090
Well, my z690 Apex board should be here on Tuesday. 12900k and ddr5 already sitting here in the office. I'd like to have a Dark board one day, but with today's supply vs demand, I got what I could out the gate. Has EVGA ever released a board alongside a new CPU launch?
 
Wonder why here in Canada no Apex available until 18 Dec ??
See release date...although I went ahead with the pre purchase!!
 
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-maximus-z690-apex/p/N82E16813119522
 
Unfortunately no DDR5 anywhere here!!
 
Yes, Evga released X58 vanilla Boards along with Intel I7 920 Bloomfield...Classified Boards appeared shortly after. Not sure about X79 as I had moved to Asus Motherboards by then ;)
 
 

Couldn't justify an Apex board, they're charging $AU1300 for that board in Australia ($AU1060 for the 12900K). The Hero is only $AU100 less but I got it bundled with a 12900K for $AU2049 (should get it tomorrow or the day after). I swear, the computer stores in Australia should ask "Would you like lube to help with your purchase?" because Aussies are getting royally shafted this round. The Hero, Apex & Formula boards are around 40% dearer than their Z590 predecessors.

Nereus
 
Damn... another issue (this is not the DX12 issue, this is a DRM issue - specifically Denuvo).
 
 

blaise
Just got my notification that EK has shipped my EK-Quantum Velocity² water block (pre-ordered Oct 23).

fragility_V1

skyline090

blaise
Just got my notification that EK has shipped my EK-Quantum Velocity² water block (pre-ordered Oct 23).

I should have mine tomorrow. Apex board came today. I also just won the newegg shuffle! I should buy a lottery ticket!

I still have trouble coming to grips with the fact that we have to "win" the chance to give a company our money.  And typically buy some piece of crud we don't want to get it.