TahoeDust
I have a 9900k running at 5.1ghz in an old z390 Dark with a blocked 3080ti FTW3.  I play on a 3840x1600 160hz monitor.  Not sure how much of an uptick I will see.  I'm in a holding pattern until I see some benchmarks with a similar system.
 
 

I play COD:MW with my buddy. Both of us have 6900xt. I get 230 FPS with a 8700k 5ghz. He gets 330 FPS in the same scene with 5900X.

KimbaWLion
I won't buy anything without benchmarks and reviews. I mean is my X299 Dark and 7900X REALLY that bad a CPU and MB combo?
Plus Moores Law on Youtube has even stated while a good CPU it remains to be seen what Ryzen 4 will be along with the Intel CPU after this one set for next year.
Right now we KNOW DDR5 prices are going to be high, but we don't know what the real difference is in real world testing and reviews. 
At the moment things are working nice and while having a nearly for 4 year old PC makes me wanna rebuild, I will NOT over pay and NOT hurry in making a choice. 
I mean I STILL can't even get a 3000 series GPU for over a year! I don't think waiting is going to make or break me either way.
 
Having said all that I wish anyone good luck on their new rebuild if they pre-ordered etc.! I just tend to be the overly cautious sort and prefer waiting till ALL the facts and testing is in.
We already know 12th gen for now will be the fasted gaming CPU but does it pay to upgrade is a WHOLE different question...

Honestly moores law annoys me. He seems like a clickbait artist and I believe thats why his channel hasn't grown. I've also heard he starts rumors. 12th gen isnt just about per core performance gains. Ex 10900K vs 5900X. With the information we have, we know it performs 19% faster than 11th gen single core. Using that info its obvious it will rival the 5950X. The way the new architecture works is very interesting. Imagine having an 11900k, 8 cores 2 threads. Now imagine having a dedicated I5 8 core cpu with no threads to manage all other tasks on the OS while your beefy 8 performance cores are dedicated to your gaming task rather than being split amongst everything. Either way its a very intriguing design and I already ordered my 12900K and paired it with a strix DDR4 board. Maybe later I will go DDR5.

Tried to grab a 12900k for my new build this morning and just missed. Any idea when restocks typically happen for CPUs?

 
Some complete asshat has put 12900K chips on EBay as a pre-order for $950 each.. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115068978110 
 

 

Watched some reviews. Power efficiency is terrible and only single digit increase in gaming over the 5950X. Looks like I'll wait until next year for an upgrade.

My Intel Core i9-12900K is coming soon from NewEgg. I just need an EVGA Z690 mainboard & DDR5 and I'll be ready to assemble.

GloR1ouS_
A lot of tech channels are milking the content a little but one channel did ddr4 vs ddr5 and the results are very small in gaming. A 4000mhz cl14 kit would outperform ddr5 in game workloads.

Have a source/link to the video? The ones I watched were pretty much "negligible differences, and could be any number of factors that could cause these issues ex. mobo drivers."

BDay33
Tried to grab a 12900k for my new build this morning and just missed. Any idea when restocks typically happen for CPUs?

Newegg is selling different 12th gen cpu's in bundle. Take a look because it wont last. That is also your best chance if you want it now. Goodluck!

seta8967

GloR1ouS_
A lot of tech channels are milking the content a little but one channel did ddr4 vs ddr5 and the results are very small in gaming. A 4000mhz cl14 kit would outperform ddr5 in game workloads.

Have a source/link to the video? The ones I watched were pretty much "negligible differences, and could be any number of factors that could cause these issues ex. mobo drivers."

https://youtu.be/Lqf8rnuiacQ
 
The difference is very small, and tbh ddr5 is fine but the price right now and availability isn't worth waiting for. If you are a gamer that is, the 4000MHZ cl14 kits are the best ddr4 bdie kits on the market and still have overclocking headroom. A 4400MHZ CL19 kit actually outperforms 5200mhz ddr5 in some games.

GloR1ouS_

rjohnson11
Watched some reviews. Power efficiency is terrible and only single digit increase in gaming over the 5950X. Looks like I'll wait until next year for an upgrade.

Depends on the workload. 125w out performs the 5950x in almost every game on the table on windows 10.

Only a single digit increase in gaming. Gamer's Nexus proved this in their review. 

rjohnson11

GloR1ouS_

rjohnson11
Watched some reviews. Power efficiency is terrible and only single digit increase in gaming over the 5950X. Looks like I'll wait until next year for an upgrade.

Depends on the workload. 125w out performs the 5950x in almost every game on the table on windows 10.

Only a single digit increase in gaming. Gamer's Nexus proved this in their review. 

Some games definitely had a huge gain but the thing that people are overlooking is the huge gains in 0.1% and 1% lows. The architecture is young and is not even designed for windows 10 but still beating the 5950x on 10. Thats a huge w for team blue imo.

https://youtu.be/6Y9S1wEtR3g

Der8auer gives good insight to ddr5 vs ddr4.

https://youtu.be/m061p-B-IYo
 
Jay did a great job showcasing the 5900X vs the 12900K in power consumption. It's not nearly as bad as people are screaming. Tbh I'd be curious to see what a 5950X pulls because of this video. Its much closer than people think. Obviously AMD wins but c'mon people.

I looked into 12th gen Intel but was concerned that it would take weeks and weeks of waiting to grab enough desired parts to be able to make a build.  DDR5 RAM looks very scarce.  The 12900k looks very scarce as well.  Plus, the z690 mobos I was interested in (EVGA ones and a couple of ROG models) aren't even available yet.  I am on 7700k z270 and want an upgrade.  So, I went on eBay and there are a lot of 10th/11th gen Intel CPUs and mobos at cheap rates.  Grabbed a 10850k open box item for 15% of current retail and a Aorus Master new item for 50% off retail.  I suspect many people who move to 12th gen will continue to dump parts on eBay over the coming weeks.  So, there should many more deals to be had if you are still on 6th/7th/8th/9th gen and want to move up.
 
I think waiting for DDR5 to become more of an established thing is the best move, unless you can get lucky with a bundle like NazcaC2 did.

NazcaC2
I was long overdue. I'm still on a first gen i7 920 and EVGA X58. Albeit, it served me quite well.

Yes, I was quite lucky. At Canada Computers, they said I was the first person to get this bundle. As a tech, each year I see new chipsets and always get the upgrade itch. The itch is no more. Plus, it sounded better to me to go from PCIe 2.0 to 5.0 and DDR3 to DDR5. I finally get to use UEFI too, lmao.

By the way, thank you for turning me on to the Folding@Home forum signatures from https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com!  I have been running F@H on my all-purpose Win10 "server" since March 2020 when the pandemic began.  It started as a 2070 Super.  Promoted to 3070 when I got my first EVGA queue card in December 2020.  Promoted to 3080Ti in August when I got another EVGA queue card.  And, will be promoted again in the next 10 days when I switch to two machines each with 3070 Ti cards (both EVGA queue cards).  I am moving the 3080 Ti to back my work laptop (as eGPU) and will setup two server machines in my basement, one Ubuntu and the other the same Win10 box, with 3070 Ti cards.  I expect 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA + 3070 Ti FTW3 ULTRA > 3080 Ti XC3 GAMING.  I've really enjoyed the notion that with F@H there is something that I as an individual can clearly do to help fight diseases and have been happy to donate the electricity $ for it.