DeathAngel74
TFG! You'll have your full refund and we'll be rid of you for good! If you had proof, you would show it. Otherwise, paranoia and BS!

 
Best news on these boards since this started.

nico2be
Among those who asked for it , anyone received thermal pad? ?
After more than a week i'm still "awaiting shipment"....

I'm waiting too.  Not to worry, they are working diligently to get in the pads, assemble the packages, and send them on to us.  The speed of logistical completion is, unfortunately, somewhat fixed.  Everything will unfold as it should in due time.

Moess
Anyone can Post the NEW Fan Curve of the 1070 SC Gaming?
Currently using a fan curve a bit less aggressive than the Aggressive Preset in XOC and i read the new bios would be so much louder..
 
would be nice if someone who alreadey updated this card can post the impressions/Curve.
 
Thanks!

There's no curve to show, it's embedded in the bios. A couple of pages back a user did a comparison with old bios and new, with screenshots with differences. Fanspeed @ wich temps.

emsir

Anarion

emsir

Anarion

emsir

delicieuxz

emsir

Anarion

clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.

What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.

I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  

LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.

If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 

-_- No, VRM is far enough from GPU so that it doesn't necessarily show in GPU thermal sensor at all. VRAM is much closer and it does affect some of those chips though for sure. I never said that these cards have failed because of high VRM temperature. It is highly possible that it will happen in the future if the VRM keeps running at ridiculously high temps and the case cooling is weak. It might not fail now or even in near future. After one or two years though...
 
It has been shown in tests over and over again that VRM cooling is poor in these cards.

Well, if you have these tests of the VRM cooling, please post them here, so we all can see. Links would be fine. And where do have your information from that " It is highly possible that it will happen in the future". Are you sighted or have a magic ball you can look in to? And EVGA is not responsible for poor case cooling.

Are you blind or do you even read stuff people post here like links to reviews and articles? It has been proven that the VRM can runs hotter than what's ideal in extreme loads (sure, Furmark is power virus but there are some games that put rather massive load on GPU). I don't have to post links to articles that have been posted here zillion times (Gamers Nexus, Tom's Hardware...). Besides, this is common sense and just how things work. How hard is it for you to understand that high VRM temperatures have negative effect on longevity? If the VRM temperature is constantly on the edge chances are obviously much higher that it will go boom at some point in the future. I'm not saying all will, I'm saying that chances are much higher than if the VRM cooling would work properly.
 
The point is: It's definitely worth it to either apply the pads, the BIOS update or both. Especially if you plan to keep the card for long time and like to overclock and/or sell it in the future.

Anarion

emsir

Anarion

emsir

Anarion

emsir

delicieuxz

emsir

Anarion

clone
I must be one of the lucky ones as my 1070FTW runs very cool but ive still asked for the thermal pads.

GPU might run very cool but the VRM are could be well past the boiling point.

This is rubbish, you have no documentation to prove your statement. Don't post something you don't have a clue about.

What do you find to be inaccurate about their statement? The temperature sensor on graphics cards is for the GPU chip, and not the VRM or VRAM. Whatever temperature is read from the GPU chip does not reflect the thermal conditions of the VRAM and VRM.
 
I hope that a cool GPU means also cool VRM and VRAM, but without thermal pads to transfer the heat from them, there seems to be significant risk to those components.

I've had my GTX 1070 FTW since September and played a lot of demanding games. No issues at all. So significant risk to components are not true. There haven't been 1 card with damaged VRM or VRAM. Nothing! And I think a lot of people with EVGA 10 series card are using agressive fan curve in Presicion X, and by that the card has no heat issue at all.  

LOL. That doesn't mean your VRM are wouldn't be running at >100c. When VRM fails, it usually fails without any warnings. Massive majority just installs the card and doesn't install Presicion X let alone use custom fan curve. I don't use Presicion X, I use Afterburner and it doesn't have any preset fancurves. Besides, the aggressive one in Presicion X is loud as hell judging by screenshots that people post.
 
The worse the case cooling, the bigger the problem. Especially if you do not do anything to the card. If everything was completely fine EVGA wouldn't kindly ship those thermal pads and update BIOSes.
I have to say that i read what EVGA announced about this problem. They stated that with the BIOS upgrade and a slightly aggressive curve added that it will solve any problems. They stated that with this BIOS update or if you will a slight increase in fan speed that you do not need the thermal pads. However if you do install the thermal pads you will get a significant cooler result. Also i would imagine but am not 100% sure that if your GPU temps are low then it will result in a all around lower temperature, because the are around will be all together cooler, but that is hypothetically speeking.

If the VRM runs at 100 degrees  it will for sure have an effect on the GPU temps. If something gets really hot it will affect the surrounding areas = GPU!  About your argument about if VRM fails due to overheat. No (EVGA) card have failed due to overheated VRM. If you have some info about cards bricked, please post it. 

-_- No, VRM is far enough from GPU so that it doesn't necessarily show in GPU thermal sensor at all. VRAM is much closer and it does affect some of those chips though for sure. I never said that these cards have failed because of high VRM temperature. It is highly possible that it will happen in the future if the VRM keeps running at ridiculously high temps and the case cooling is weak. It might not fail now or even in near future. After one or two years though...
 
It has been shown in tests over and over again that VRM cooling is poor in these cards.

Well, if you have these tests of the VRM cooling, please post them here, so we all can see. Links would be fine. And where do have your information from that " It is highly possible that it will happen in the future". Are you sighted or have a magic ball you can look in to? And EVGA is not responsible for poor case cooling.

Are you blind or do you even read stuff people post here like links to reviews and articles? It has been proven that the VRM can runs hotter than what's ideal in extreme loads (sure, Furmark is power virus but there are some games that put rather massive load on GPU). I don't have to post links to articles that have been posted here zillion times (Gamers Nexus, Tom's Hardware...). Besides, this is common sense and just how things work. How hard is it for you to understand that high VRM temperatures have negative effect on longevity? If the VRM temperature is constantly on the edge chances are obviously much higher that it will go boom at some point in the future. I'm not saying all will, I'm saying that chances are much higher than if the VRM cooling would work properly.
 
The point is: It's definitely worth it to either apply the pads, the BIOS update or both. Especially if you plan to keep the card for long time and like to overclock and/or sell it in the future.

Damn people stop quoting massive posts.
Also, yes there are EU guys who got their pads. STOP ASKING ABOUT PADS.

I followed enough pages to make comments, now. Building a new PC and this is all disconcerting. Fact is, EVGA dropped the ball with this product and failed to acknowledge the deficiency in a timely manner. Matter of fact, I read through another thread on the issue where someone was confidently admonishing that no problems persist.
 
Are some blowing this out of proportion? Absolutely. However...Those that have voiced their discontent are the only reason EVGA has responded with improvised solutions that subsequently negate the products initially promised specifications. Although a band-aid has been applied it negates the desired composition.
 
Some have compared the product to cars. Under warranty, however, I have never contacted a dealership when a defect materialized only to have them tell me they will ship me the part so I can install it myself. That...is brilliant. Yet so many make  attempts to veil this inadequacy with slander towards those who denounce. That's nothing but white knighting brand loyalty.
 
This thread has convinced me to seek life elsewhere. Bit of a shame, really, since my EVGA GTX 560Ti has served so well over the years.
Now...I'm off to another thread to review EVGA's PSU's which have received critical acclaim from the likes of JonnyGURU regarding performance yet antagonistic consumer scrutiny regarding build quality.
 
I'm doing my homework. So far it's ASUS ROG Strix 08G. Now to the PSU...What's it gonna be, EVGA??? So far I have seen a defective product and DIY solutions. That's far from the immaculate customer service with which the public praises your company. Through, I imagine...delusion.

Xfade81

panzlock
 

As if Asus never bleeped up :') You are blowing this out of proportion too, since you felt the need to make a comment.

Nowhere did I say ASUS never (Deleted for Foul Language) up. But in this case their product is better. Temperatures/Thermals are finer, quieter fans, better looking and clocked higher out of the box.
 
I'm blowing this out of proportion by commenting?......Not sure you understood my post.

XrayMan
 
Reminder that Foul Language is not allowed in these forums. Next time may earn you a warning.
 
 
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I apologize for posting stars.

ipkha
I sure don't see where all the hate is coming from.

...That's the problem with the world.

XrayMan

panzlock
 



I apologize for posting stars.

"using acronyms or censoring the word by use of characters to mask profanity or other inappropriate language will not be tolerated."
 
 
                              

You know what? I didn't read that. In the future I'll try to restrain myself from indirect profanity and keep the sarcasm to a minimum. I'm making friends already. But the wife wants a divorce. Win some, lose some, huh?

ipaine
Sorry but have you not read anything about this issue? First and foremost everything is optional, recommended but still optional. Second you have a whole bunch of different options to address the issues, first you can adjust the fan curve yourself and be done with it. Second you can install the bios and once again you are done. Third you can order the thermal pads for no cost and install them yourself and again you are done. Or you can do all of them together and then there is the last option, if you are not comfortable installing the pads yourself you can send it in for a RMA. I just don't see any other company doing this, and certainly not covering everything under warranty, including if you screw up your card by accident when putting on the thermal pads.
 
I think just one thing bugs me though, if after reading all of the posts and deciding you are going to purchase a card from Asus, why oh why would you waste you time writing in the forum? I just don't understand it.

I don't think you know what you're saying.
 
A.) I read plenty on this issue. Refer to my original post... Mmmkay?
 
2.) You left out another option. Alternate vendor.
 
And D.) I haven't made a purchase yet so you're recommendation is to buy a defective product, RMA it, then perform a DIY retrofit and have it perform worse than competing products, OR...Purchase a defective product, RMA it and have it retrofitted and have it perform worse than competing products?
 
Bad advice. People like you are the reason I got married.

panzlock

ipaine
Sorry but have you not read anything about this issue? First and foremost everything is optional, recommended but still optional. Second you have a whole bunch of different options to address the issues, first you can adjust the fan curve yourself and be done with it. Second you can install the bios and once again you are done. Third you can order the thermal pads for no cost and install them yourself and again you are done. Or you can do all of them together and then there is the last option, if you are not comfortable installing the pads yourself you can send it in for a RMA. I just don't see any other company doing this, and certainly not covering everything under warranty, including if you screw up your card by accident when putting on the thermal pads.
 
I think just one thing bugs me though, if after reading all of the posts and deciding you are going to purchase a card from Asus, why oh why would you waste you time writing in the forum? I just don't understand it.

I don't think you know what you're saying.
 
A.) I read plenty on this issue. Refer to my original post... Mmmkay?
 
2.) You left out another option. Alternate vendor.
 
And D.) I haven't made a purchase yet so you're recommendation is to buy a defective product, RMA it, then perform a DIY retrofit and have it perform worse than competing products, OR...Purchase a defective product, RMA it and have it retrofitted and have it perform worse than competing products?
 
Bad advice. People like you are the reason I got married.

Now that made me laugh

you're welcome bro!

Does it make sense to update the BIOS but not install the Thermal pad?
Cause im not so common with that.