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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 08:54:49 (permalink)
shamino

ok tomorow i do it for you guys, try to find some 55xxs

   That's awesome shamino. Thank you. I'm sitting on two 5520's.


 

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 09:24:22 (permalink)
thanks shamino.

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 11:08:07 (permalink)
Hi everyone.  Shamino, thanks for the awesome communication and W555 preview you've been providing on this forum!

Does the A0 Westmere-EP chip work on this board, or is later stepping required?

I ask because of concern after reading these posts:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4235314&postcount=56
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=80119&postcount=5
 
(Also does anyone know where to find details on what changed / errata that are fixed in the next stepping?)

Thanks!
post edited by rkagerer - 2010/03/07 12:00:53
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 17:09:29 (permalink)
rkagerer

Hi everyone.  Shamino, thanks for the awesome communication and W555 preview you've been providing on this forum!

Does the A0 Westmere-EP chip work on this board, or is later stepping required?

I ask because of concern after reading these posts:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4235314&postcount=56
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=80119&postcount=5
 
(Also does anyone know where to find details on what changed / errata that are fixed in the next stepping?)

Thanks!


yes A0 runs fine, been overclocking some on the board.


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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 19:07:30 (permalink)
Hi Shamino, thanks SO MUCH for the fast reply!  Response times like this make it a no-brainer to buy EVGA.

A few more questions..

1) Is memory treated as one big pool that both CPU's share, or can you set it up so each CPU has its own memory?

If it's a shared pool:
2) Does that make the memory speed more critical? (since requests from each chip must be "interleaved")

If each gets its own pool:
3) Could you mix different speed memories?  (e.g. buy one CPU for now and put in 1600MHz, and a year later add a second, faster CPU with faster 2000MHz+ memory).  Does each CPU get its own clock multiplier?
4) Let's say each CPU has 12GB memory.  If you run a single-threaded program that requires more than 12GB memory (humour me) will it be able to "borrow" memory from the other CPU's pool?  Or would it get an "Out of memory" error and need to start paging to disk?

Thanks for your patience; I apologize if these are n00b questions.
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 19:31:59 (permalink)
I'm sure this is a standard NUMA (non uniform memory access) SMP system that presents a single address space for the entire system.  Usually such systems can either be set to "node interleaved" on or off.  Off is usually better for operating systems that can take advantage of the system memory map to bind cpus and memory for one particular socket.
I don't know if this board would support different speed memory for the different sockets.
4.  As in 1, the OS will handle allocation across nodes if the local memory is used up.


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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 20:13:02 (permalink)
i only have 5 sticks of rams atm so here it is with 5540:




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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 20:18:33 (permalink)
rkagerer

Hi Shamino, thanks SO MUCH for the fast reply!  Response times like this make it a no-brainer to buy EVGA.

A few more questions..

1) Is memory treated as one big pool that both CPU's share, or can you set it up so each CPU has its own memory?

If it's a shared pool:
2) Does that make the memory speed more critical? (since requests from each chip must be "interleaved")

If each gets its own pool:
3) Could you mix different speed memories?  (e.g. buy one CPU for now and put in 1600MHz, and a year later add a second, faster CPU with faster 2000MHz+ memory).  Does each CPU get its own clock multiplier?
4) Let's say each CPU has 12GB memory.  If you run a single-threaded program that requires more than 12GB memory (humour me) will it be able to "borrow" memory from the other CPU's pool?  Or would it get an "Out of memory" error and need to start paging to disk?

Thanks for your patience; I apologize if these are n00b questions.


each cpu has its own rams connected to its own ondie mch, but os sees as shared

3) yes but right now both cpus' DRAMs run at same speed, they share the same base clocks but may not share the same cpu multiplier - right now they share the same ram multiplier.

4) it is os's protocol and since it sees all rams it will access the other cpus rams via the qpi link whether or not the app is single threaded

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/07 21:34:15 (permalink)
shamino, very nice dual E5540 OC, thanks for this.  I am really looking forward to this board.

 
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 03:05:12 (permalink)
thanks Peter for the Screenshot of the 5540.



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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 05:53:11 (permalink)
From that screenshot it appears to me that you can control the QPI link frequency in the BIOS, right?  (Otherwise it would be running somewhere around 4.4GHz at that bclk)  Someone in another forum is claiming that QPI multipliers are locked on Nehalems, even though I have read the multiplier values in my CPU's PCI config space and they allow a good range.  Can you confirm that the W555 allows you to change the QPI multiplier for Nehalems and Westmeres?


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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 05:55:17 (permalink)
Got 2 5580 and 6 4GB bars to populate it with ... as soon as the distributor allows me to order one, I'll do it...
 
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 07:08:26 (permalink)
Punchy

From that screenshot it appears to me that you can control the QPI link frequency in the BIOS, right?  (Otherwise it would be running somewhere around 4.4GHz at that bclk)  Someone in another forum is claiming that QPI multipliers are locked on Nehalems, even though I have read the multiplier values in my CPU's PCI config space and they allow a good range.  Can you confirm that the W555 allows you to change the QPI multiplier for Nehalems and Westmeres?


you can bump down to 4.8GT/s but cannot bump up above of your market segmant QPI Link default.
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 08:09:30 (permalink)
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you can bump down to 4.8GT/s but cannot bump up above of your market segmant QPI Link default.


Awesome!  For stability I definitely want to bump it down, and for a lot of NUMA-aware applications (like folding @ home) the QPI speed really isn't all that critical.



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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 08:53:43 (permalink)
sorry for the newb question, but am i correct in that this will only run xeon CPUs and wont run any of the i7s or the upcoming 6 core "gulftown" processors? 
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 08:59:23 (permalink)
NO I7 or Gulftown 980X, only Dual QPI Xeons - Designated as 55xx or 56xx
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 09:56:45 (permalink)
So now everyone you've heard it from Shamino himself. What Shamino has mentioned is all that will work in this motherboard

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 10:11:00 (permalink)
right at the oc I was hoping for. Perfect. thank you, shamino

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 10:35:15 (permalink)
i heard the board has 2x sata 6gb/s ports....

will you be able to boot from them for OS?

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 17:14:12 (permalink)
yes the sata 3 can boot os
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 17:18:59 (permalink)
Out of curiosity, why is the Gulftown 980X not going to work? I've been reading that it'll have dual QPI links.
Link: Edited out
Is that misinformation and/or I'm reading it wrong, or is there some other reason?
post edited by JTF195 - 2010/03/09 09:06:19
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 17:36:48 (permalink)
It is BS
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/08 17:40:57 (permalink)
Well, so much for saving a few hundred bucks, eh?
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 02:54:21 (permalink)
Highly waiting for this M/B with 2 boxed 5540s in the wing.  Questions about supported Cases/Chassis is still outstanding.  The other big question is of course pricing.  How much is it?
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 03:10:01 (permalink)


Quad Cores





HEX Cores
 

all this should work on the SR2 , Shamino corrected me if I am wrong.

thanks again Shamino for this FAQ and taking your time to answer many Q here.

Once again, before you are ask if i7 920/980x will work on this board.

The Answer : is NO and Shamino have repeat this multiple time. You need 2XQPI . look at the chart above for the upcoming march 16 launch newer Quad and Hex Cores 56XX Xeon.

WB
post edited by wb488641 - 2010/03/09 03:14:51

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 03:43:22 (permalink)
Shamino, can you explain what memory speeds  were supported for the maximum config e.g. full (12) ranks DDR3 unbuffered or full DDR3 Reg ECC? I ask this because many server boards go down to 1066/800 DDR3 if full packed with tons of RAM. I thank you in advance for upcoming answer!

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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 04:34:22 (permalink)
wb488, yes to all the cpus in the chart

stephan i will find out and let u know
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 09:23:43 (permalink)
In response to the charts linked above
 
My original post about the 980X had a link to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_microprocessors#.22Gulftown.22_.2832_nm.29
But I edited it to a different link, thinking it was more reliable.
 
So, just for further clarification, that chart on wikipedia that claims the Gulftown Hexcores will have 2x 6.4 GT/s QPI is
 
DEAD WRONG
 
Correct?
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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 09:40:31 (permalink)
Regarding the power draws in the original post, were those measured with turbo enabled or disabled?  In my non-OC'd Nehalem board I see a huge power jump with turbo enabled but a much smaller performance increase.  Just wondering if you compared turbo on/off since turbo seems to be very power-inefficient.


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Re:Upcoming EVGA W555 FAQ 2010/03/09 17:20:04 (permalink)
turbo is just manipulation of cpu multiplier, it is of no consequence here with a fixed cpu speed/vcore
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