silixx
I have received my Kingpin last week and my score on PR is 13736 out of the box.
Probably got the worst card, I'm really disappointed.

At stock it's just a slightly factory OCed 3090 mate, that score is actually pretty normal: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/818304 That's mine at stock, 13790.  Also it does depend somewhat on your CPU & RAM settings for your system.
 

TwoEvilOne
My best PR run @ 15K on LN2 bios +175/+1500 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/839068
Here is some of my benchmark dbase.

Is that on the LN2 520W BIOS or the 1000W BIOS?  Your offset is higher than mine to achieve the same clocks, behavior I've seen exhibited by people using the 1000W BIOS (it seems like it clocks slightly lower at the same offset compared to the 520W BIOS)
 

xxDarkxx

Dabadger84

xxDarkxx
I think I've been able to resolve the issues I've been having
Switched back to the 500w bios and used ddu to wipe drivers. 

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/832549
this is with the optimus water block and ambient air 70 f.
Memory issues have seemingly been fixed. 
I want to try a cold run again and see if i can break 16k

Nice, you're making me want to get a hydrocopper when they come out 😂

Are you pushing extra voltage than stock on that or nah?

thanks i appreciate it. I'm in the que for the KP hybrid and my turn might come this week but I'm thinking to pass on it and wait for the hydrocopper as my ftw3 is doing very well on its own and I dont want to wait for a optimus KP block.
 
This is just the standard voltage that px1 will allow. Unfortunately, the ftw3 is all analog so there is no way to add voltage

Oooooh I missed that you're on a FTW3 and not a Kingpin... either way, that's some nice temps etc - I am actually considering going full liquid cooling, I'm just paranoid about it since the last time I had an open loop it had uh... issues.
 
For now, I'm planning to buy this kit soon: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-power-kit-d-rgb-p360 for the CPU, then eventually I'll buy extra tubing/fittings/a second radiator to run the video card in the loop if I end up with a HC Kingpin.
 

alpharius194
Does anyone else have a weird itch for a white PCB all of a sudden? Over 2800mhz during the PR run

I do. It definitely shows who's the king in this game, but where to get one?

Odds of anyone getting one. Probably easier to convince EVGA to sell you a second Kingpin. From what I saw they’re only selling the baddest one in China, the “worldwide” version is a tad slower. But you’d be competing with bots from “everywhere”.

Its unrealistic to think your going to game at 2160 MHz for 4 hours at low voltage without an error.
I game at +105/+1300 clock/mem at 2100 -2115 MHz clock for hours at stock voltage with no problems for hours on end (6 plus hours).
Gaming and Benchmarking are two separate things. Ask yourself what is your card built for? The drag strip! Short burst of speed.
No Daytona 24 Hr races here. Take her to a LAN party and show here legs, at 2115 MHz all day, Mem at +1300 but dont push her at 2160Mhz clock and 1400MHz Mem for 45 min and expect her not to crash.
Keep her cool and she will perform.

Dabadger84
Well the overall goal is to hopefully get to 2205MHz, just need to figure out how much over-stock voltage I'd need to get that actually gaming stable.
But 2145-2160 @ 1050mV is pretty close - might actually be, just those blips that occasionally hit 2175 causing crashes as far as I can tell, so maybe setting to 2145 would work better, that's what I'll be testing next.  I'll also be trying just a 120 offset with regular voltage, seeing how that runs.  The fact that 2160 @ 1050mV passed a full Port Royal stress test (which is 20 loops with no pauses) tells me it's at least close to stable, that's about 30+ minutes of continually getting hammered with a heavy RT work load.
 
My original goal was around 2145 stable for regular usage, I think I'll be able to pull that off, just need to do some tinkering to get it fully happy.  I'd love to get 2200+ stable enough for regular use, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to be possible, at least not without pushing the voltage up several steps with Classified Tool, at which point it's a question of is the performance difference between 2100 and 2200 worth that extra power draw & stress on the card, when I can run 2100 @ 1025mV with absolutely zero issues.

simple answer... no. 6 - 10 fps for an extra 100 watts going from 2100 to 2200 not worth it, for me. But maybe for you.  Push it till the blue magic smoke appears!

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/845052
A little bit better than before but still very limited by temps. Can't wait to get the waterblock. 

There really is a first time for almost everything... from saying vertically mounting GPUs is silly to:
 

 
:-D Bracket that came with my case for vertically mounting is incompatible with the riser cable... so it's being suspended purely by the 2 slot-bracket screws & the lil' insert nubs.  Riser cable is completely free - but stock vs stock without the cable, scored about the same at stock clocks - and thanks to some lil' heatsinks installed on the back of the card temps are even a bit better too (4-6C cooler on 2 of the 3 Memory iCX sensors and cooler across the board by 1-2C elsewhere, probably mostly as a result of less PCB heatsoaking from the vRAM).
 
I need more heatsinks though, this is almost the entirity of the kit I received - I thought they would be bigger O_o not height wise, but like... size wise. lol
 

 
They're on via thermal tape, so I couldn't re-align them to be all nice & neat, but it definitely seems like they're doing a decent enough job based on those temp drops on comparable runs.  There is an EK Vardar fan behind the GPU (in between it & the riser cable, lol) blowing air over the lil' heatsinks.
Not bad for $11 invested in aluminum. lol

bumfoto
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/846322
 
new highest score 16382

Great Score! I see you were running at a temperature of 1C?
Now that is "Getting it Colder".

A bit temp limited here as well with SL120s in push/pull (all other cooling stock), this was in a 60F room with the window open to a 46F evening outside. 15,620, pretty happy with this #62 on the HOF tbh!
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/850611
 
Also, 12,252 Time spy extreme graphics score, for #28 on the HOF :)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18075795
 
To get to these numbers I gained about 4% by reverting my RAM to just about stock XMP, it had a mild OC before that must have been unstable!

crowie03
What bios were you using

1000W plus Classified tool (1.2/1.4/1.2v, 400KHz, OCP on)

I think I've come up with a pretty good idea.  Flash the LN2 520W BIOS on to the OC switch position that I won't use otherwise anyway, and then put the "other" BIOS on the LN2 switch position... that way I can fiddle with it when I want to & not have to reflash the 520W when I'm done.  Or just put that BIOS on the OC position.  Same difference.

Dabadger84
Has anyone else had the problem I'm having?
 
Basically, I cannot get my card to perform as it should about 99% of the time.  Only once was I able to get some 15.4k runs out of +150/+1250 - since then, I haven't even been able to consistently hit 15k.
I've tried switching BIOSes, switching drivers, with clean installs & full DDU wipes in between, nothing seems to make any difference, since the day I magically got those 15.4k runs, haven't been able to get anything close since.  I tried replicating the exact things I did to get those runs too - I uninstalled the drivers I was running, ran DDU, rebooted, installed the 457.51s, tested on those (which ran like garbage, coincidentally), uninstalled those & ran DDU, rebooted, went back to the 461.40 drivers, and ran the benchmark - only got 14.9k with the same exact settings for CPU/RAM & GPU that got 15.4k before.  All background processes that I closed before were closed this time.
 
Am I missing something, or is everyone experiencing this & it's all about whether or not your Windows decides to play nice during your runs or not?

Have you used classified tool before? Sometimes when you hit default it still keep the settings before and it gets stuck in low MSVVDD. I'd recommend to hit default then turn your pc off and disconnect power until all lights are gone. Then set your offset OC +150/1250 (don't touch v/f curve) and use both dipswitches on the back of the card for NVVDD and MSVVDD. You should be able to hit 15K.

So, update from last night's testing before I gave up: Dipswitch reversion did not help.
 
I've now tried replicating the circumstances that led to the jump in performance, driver changes with DDU etc, did not work.
Tried different BIOS switch positions with shut downs in between, did not result in the performance increase.
Reverted dipswitches to stock, and much like when I changed them to begin with, zero effect noticeable.
 
The only GOOD thing so far is apparently +1000 vRAM is actually "stable" - it passed TimeSpy Extreme Stress Test with 98.9%, and Port Royal Stress Test with 99.4%, and it got hammered with 2 hours of Cyberpunk with no crashes & no visual issues as far as I noticed - this was with the visual settings all maxed, Ray-Tracing all on & the last setting on Psycho, with DLSS on Quality - so basically the game looking graphically as great as it can and hammering the GPU as much as possible, and it had no issues, despite running 2160MHz @ 1068mV (typically it was running at 2145-2160) & +1000 Memory, with no Classified Tool.  I'm quite happy with that, especially considering the temps are still totally fine, highest GPU temp was 52C, Mems were in the 50.9C on the lowest to 65C on the highest, with a Mem Junction Temp of 72C peak (it was typically in 66C-70C range when I was looking at it, I have it in the OSD for MSI Afterburner via HWInfo64 now) & the VRMs peaked at 38C on the lowest & 54.5C on the highest.  So considering it's running +120/+1000, the card is running pretty cool, hopefully those temps will go down even more once I get the next round of heatsinks on the back plate.
 
But, yeah, benchmarking performance is back to being stuck at around 14.9k max with +150/+1250 for no apparent reason.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for other things to try to see if I can get it back to where it should be, I'll give'em a try.

Well, after some tinkering around, ram OC insight, and reading all 20 of these pages back and forth for insight I'm sitting a bit more comfortably now with my PR score.

15,580
10900kf / 4800c18
XOC bios and classified tool
+210/+1700
1.24375
1.37500
1.02
900
700
LL5/LL6
Enabled/Enabled

not the coldest day, but I'd like to crack 15,6 once it's a bit chillier outside. 

I guess I'll edit this once I have link perms lol, but run ID is 858722

5900x / 4000c14
Same X1 and classified settings as above
15,341

Run ID 844875

drewski989

 
This is the best I have done, pretty mundane compared to others...  LN2 BIOS, +1450/+187, on FL 40F air...
 
15199 is #4 leaderboard for 5900X and 3090, so I am pretty happy.

Well now that I've moved off of my 5900 and back onto intel, I expect you to take my #3 spot relatively soon