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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 20:42:43 (permalink)
Oh man haven't posted in forever but, after hearing this news today my heart sank and I had to come check the forums for a official announcement. Sad days ahead. 


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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 20:47:17 (permalink)
Having several hours to digest this now... Just want to say thank you to you Jacob and the rest of the evga team. I get it... we get it... take one look at pcmr on reddit and you will see nothing but love for you guys. I can't help but feel many of the problems you faced at the start of the 30 series launch was because they kept you guys in the dark and didn't trust you with driver / full specs until right before launch. I have been a member and proud owner for a long long time. I honestly wish I could see what your team would come up with if given full trust to make the best product you can. So I will still buy your PSU's and boards but just know it's nothing but love and respect from me. Thanks for decades of being my go to company!

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 21:05:32 (permalink)
Wow.

You have so many loyal fans, such a large customer base.

Why end your company who mainly is here for GPU'S.

I feel this is the equivalent of shutting your company down.

Better to sell your company than end Nvidia.
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 21:06:54 (permalink)
This news was sad to hear about. When it came to brand loyalty, EVGA(GPUs), Corsair(Memory), ASUS(Mobos) and Crucial(SSDs) have always been my top 4 picks for hardware and now aside from EVGA’s non-GPU components my go to brand for GPUs is scratched off the list now.


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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 21:21:36 (permalink)
In 1999, I went to Best Buy to find a GPU to upgrade my Dell.  I passed on a card from "eVGA" which looked like a generic knock-off.  A couple of years later, I went back for a GeForce MX200 and the only card they had was EVGA.  But I liked it so much I built my first frankenstein computer around it. 21 years and dozens of builds later,
I would happily do my first AMD build if that were a GPU option.  I'll still buy EVGA motherboards and PSUs - because I believe in the products, the team and their values. 
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 21:27:55 (permalink)
Now I just don't trust EVGA. The loyalty of the brand is gone. It's Extended Video Graphics Array...not E-Mobo. Gpus were what the name brand was made for. How am I supposed to trust a brand that has a name which is now mis-guided ? ..whats next...going to get mad at your psu builder and stop selling those? .... I say file for bankruptcy. You've killed your bread and butter income. (80% of EVGA sales were gpu) No way your going to survive as a brand name or trust worthy hardware company now.
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 21:45:11 (permalink)
I just came here to say that I really enjoyed the products EVGA offered all these past years, and I'm super sad to see this happen. I own a 970 FTW and 1070ti FTW2 - both are amazing cards that are very, very well made, and honestly I would not consider another brand if I'm upgrading in the future. 
 
It just would not be the same without you guys, perhaps find a way to work with AMD instead?
 
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:03:14 (permalink)
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Hi all,

You may have heard some news regarding the next generation products from EVGA. Please see below for a message on future products and support:
 

  • EVGA will not carry the next generation graphics cards.
  • EVGA will continue to support the existing current generation products.
  • EVGA will continue to provide the current generation products.
EVGA is committed to our customers and will continue to offer sales and support on the current lineup. Also, EVGA would like to say thank you to our great community for the many years of support and enthusiasm for EVGA graphics cards.

EVGA Management

 
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:08:44 (permalink)
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Hi all,

You may have heard some news regarding the next generation products from EVGA. Please see below for a message on future products and support:
 

  • EVGA will not carry the next generation graphics cards.
  • EVGA will continue to support the existing current generation products.
  • EVGA will continue to provide the current generation products.
EVGA is committed to our customers and will continue to offer sales and support on the current lineup. Also, EVGA would like to say thank you to our great community for the many years of support and enthusiasm for EVGA graphics cards.

EVGA Management





I hope EVGA finds success in its new ventures and that the employees are doing okay, as I can imagine this is stressful to many at the company. Thanks for all the customer support with my GPU purchases over the years!
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:18:24 (permalink)
anyone find it off that Jacob’s avatar gone?


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It's AMD cards or bankruptcy for EVGA, take your pick. EVGA can't survive without video cards.




I agree. listening to GN's video now, it sounds like the CEO believes they'll be fine being a power supply company only (and...maybe motherboards too?)...at least that's the message he's putting out there.

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surely they can’t be that dumb. they must be trying to put a squeeze on nvidia
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:27:08 (permalink)
Nvidia are fools, EVGA was the best nvidia GPUs partner by far: card design, warranty, technical support, community. No other nvidia partner was coming close to EVGA level in these respects. 
 
This sure will be a hard time to EVGA employees and the company as a whole since 80% of their business was coming from this. 
 
I hope EVGA wont die, we'd loose the best hardware company we have.
 
Thanks to all EVGA employees for their good and hard work until now, i hope the ones that are let go will find a replacement job soon.

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:44:12 (permalink)
I will never buy another Nvidia graphics card again. EVGA is gone. Nvidia is now dead to me. I hope Nvidia fails. It's all AMD cards from here on out for me.
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 22:46:52 (permalink)
Nvidia may be fools but they will survive without EVGA and that's a guarantee. The same can not be said for the reverse. I can't see EVGA surviving on motherboards, power supplies and accessories alone. i always used their gpu's for almost 20 years. It's unfortunate.
post edited by Feklar - 2022/09/16 22:48:09
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:03:02 (permalink)
I am sad to hear this but understand the reasoning. Good luck! I will continue to use EVGA for my power supplies at the least. :)
 
I may be switching to AMD cards now...unfortunately...
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:10:40 (permalink)
Plot twist: EVGA bought their own fab and has a secret team of computer engineers about to release something fabulous!


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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:11:43 (permalink)
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Plot twist: EVGA bought their own fab and has a secret team of computer engineers about to release something fabulous!

Now that would be something. 

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:12:55 (permalink)
So what does this mean for those of us with 30 series GPU's?
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:19:51 (permalink)
Ive praised EVGA for having the best customer service/support in the PC industry for 15 years and now I cant help but feel like the industry is looking pretty bleak without EVGA.
It's really difficult for me to imagine getting a GPU that isnt from EVGA.

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:29:08 (permalink)
Andrew Han is a bad ceo, and you lost money on producing cards for adhd kids, your losses are your own fault.
 
Less sensory tactile plastics and RGB, and more high end power delivery and you would have sold more products and spent less on manufacturing.
 
stop being Extra
 
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Nvidia are fools, EVGA was the best nvidia GPUs partner by far: card design, warranty, technical support, community. No other nvidia partner was coming close to EVGA level in these respects. 

 
EVGA turned into a superficial kiddie product company, stop mistaking required by law warranty process as good business.
 
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Nothing wrong with AMD drivers. YES their driver team is smaller than Nvidia's 100's of 1000's of employees. But I actually own both an EVGA 3090 and PowerColor 6900xt and guess what, in a 100 game benchmark they go head to head, win some lose some, each. Making them basically "equal". Sure pick one game only you could say "the 3090 beats the 6900xt in battlefield" but then you could turn around and argue "the 6900xt beats the 3090 in call of duty warzone" so the arguments kinda flop. In reality, AMD has reached parity. And actually owning an AMD product, multiple years (6900xt, radeon vii, 390x) and owning multiple Nvidia cards (1080ti, 3090) I have never once had a driver issue on EITHER brand.... not once. so to claim "muh nvidia better" is just shortsightedness.



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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:45:36 (permalink)
So, what does this mean for those of us with 20 series cards with the extended warranties? i still have 8 years left on my 2080 Ti..

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:52:23 (permalink)
I’m curious what folks think should happen that keep saying “but they cut 75-80% of their revenue” after EVGA stated they have been selling GPU’s at a loss for months. Just keep bleeding money for a few more months, while NVidia purposely undercuts the AIB’s? NVidia will undercut the AIB’s with the 40 series as well, and it will likely be even worse with the 40 series.

Revenue does not equal profit. Constant loss is unsustainable even if it is revenue.

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:55:49 (permalink)
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Andrew Han is a bad ceo, and you lost money on producing cards for adhd kids, your losses are your own fault.
 
Less sensory tactile plastics and RGB, and more high end power delivery and you would have sold more products and spent less on manufacturing.
 
stop being Extra
 
Neutro
Nvidia are fools, EVGA was the best nvidia GPUs partner by far: card design, warranty, technical support, community. No other nvidia partner was coming close to EVGA level in these respects. 

 
EVGA turned into a superficial kiddie product company, stop mistaking required by law warranty process as good business.




There are so many people here and all over the internet that are expressing right now their sadness to see EVGA gone out of nvidia GPU business because they thought they were the best nvidia AIB, i don't think a "superficial kiddie product company" would have triggered this kind of response if that was the case.
 
You think you are smarter than everyone to give lessons to us and EVGA CEO while you are no one, please stop wasting air and go trash talk somewhere else, we dont care.

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:56:46 (permalink)
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I’m curious what folks think should happen that keep saying “but they cut 75-80% of their revenue” after EVGA stated they have been selling GPU’s at a loss for months. Just keep bleeding money for a few more months, while NVidia purposely undercuts the AIB’s? NVidia will undercut the AIB’s with the 40 series as well, and it will likely be even worse with the 40 series.

Revenue does not equal profit. Constant loss is unsustainable even if it is revenue.



You're being mindshared to the max here,
 
FE boards are low volume products and the 3090 models were often still on shelves in Bestbuys because nobody actually wanted them.
 
EVGA is responsible for its losses on its products through poor aesthetic choices which increased production costs.
 
Neutro
There are so many people here and all over the internet that are expressing right now their sadness to see EVGA

 
Fanboys need a king, EVGA was that king.
 
Doesn't make their products any better then a competitors,
 
You overestimate your group,
 
EVGA reached too hard with products that don't have mass appeal.
 
Cry over it.
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:59:26 (permalink)
I hope EVGA will consider AMD as a GPU partner. 

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/16 23:59:53 (permalink)
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I’m curious what folks think should happen that keep saying “but they cut 75-80% of their revenue” after EVGA stated they have been selling GPU’s at a loss for months. Just keep bleeding money for a few more months, while NVidia purposely undercuts the AIB’s? NVidia will undercut the AIB’s with the 40 series as well, and it will likely be even worse with the 40 series.

Revenue does not equal profit. Constant loss is unsustainable even if it is revenue.



EVGA doing what they’re doing cause of profit loss and Intel‘s apparent plans to go for lower cost on their GPUs could potentially and hopefully see other AIBs moving over to blue team if Intel delivers on all their promises. In fact I think it’s about time we see a proper blow for blow between AMD and Intel in BOTH gpu and cpu sectors. Heck if that happens then Nvidia’s days will be truly numbered.


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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/17 00:04:30 (permalink)
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Wonder if this is related to the crazy failure rates of the FTW3 early on even though that was a custom board with soldering issues IE not Nvidia's fault. Or maybe somehow its fallout to the chinese nvidia export laws that recently came to be.
 
Also wonder if they will be doing AMD cards now.




There wasn't soldering issues,
 
EVGA lied, there was an intentional component change between Rev 0 and 01 that introduced volatile current variation, the result would have been obvious if they had performed due diligence and projected for it in engineering.

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/17 00:10:36 (permalink)
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I hope EVGA will consider AMD as a GPU partner. 


Or even Intel but from everything I've heard today sounds like EVGA is completely getting out of the VGA business. :(

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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/17 00:14:10 (permalink)
Nobody in the industry is even a little close to how good EVGA's customer-service/warrentry is. I'm really disappointed they didn't reach into a mutal descison with nvidia. EVGA should at least sell it's gpu division or something, you can't just throw it all away. 
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/17 00:18:54 (permalink)
My heart hurts reading this post. The world has been through so much these last few years and I simply can not imagine a world without EVGA graphics cards. From my 8800gtx to 3090 FTW, I have purchased none other than EVGA, for your craftsmanship and attention to detail, which are second to none. Ultimately a quality product producer in a world of ever disappearing standards of acceptable class . A true light in the dark. What ever travesty/ betrayal or injury caused this epic reversal, I hope that it can be rectified post haste and with respect.
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Re: Official Message from EVGA Management 2022/09/17 00:21:56 (permalink)
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Wonder if this is related to the crazy failure rates of the FTW3 early on even though that was a custom board with soldering issues IE not Nvidia's fault. Or maybe somehow its fallout to the chinese nvidia export laws that recently came to be.
 
Also wonder if they will be doing AMD cards now.




There wasn't soldering issues,
 
EVGA lied, there was an intentional component change between Rev 0 and 01 that introduced volatile currentvariation, the result would have been obvious if they had performed due diligence and projected for it in engineering.


That is a misconception. The only change between those two revisions was the PWM having input protection. This kind of protection is a luxury, you rarely see it on a VRM. EVGA (and a few others who sell 30 series) just went the extra mile to add it. It can also have compatibility issues if your PSU timings are a bit off (which is quite common).
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