Your temp is lower and clock is higher and mem is higher on the higher score, so ....

kraade
Your temp is lower and clock is higher and mem is higher on the higher score, so ....

Mem is lower because stability is actually slightly worse with the x3D also. Multiple people over on the Overclockers forum have seen the same result. Even when temps and clocks are equal, it still scores lower anyway. I've done many baseline runs that all show the same thing. Same for everyone else.

I've even tested it in games. When completely GPU bound, the 5800x3D scores lower in game benchmarks as well. Only in high fps situations does the x3D really show its potential.

It's a pretty big disappointment for me as I wasn't expecting a gain in GPU bound situations, but I didn't realize it would be a slight loss.

Do I spy a Mo-Ra? Love those. Have a 420 Pro at work. it's awesome.

B0baganoosh
Do I spy a Mo-Ra? Love those. Have a 420 Pro at work. it's awesome.

you know it! 420 pro on the bench, 360 pro back behind the daily. mora is life!

B0baganoosh

zippytek

B0baganoosh
Do I spy a Mo-Ra? Love those. Have a 420 Pro at work. it's awesome.

you know it! 420 pro on the bench, 360 pro back behind the daily. mora is life!

I have ideas based on that for my next big build. I tried to discuss that over here, but even though people looked at that post about 270 times, nobody has replied lol. I'm guessing it's a TLDR situation but also maybe a "oh dear god, this man is delusional, I'm not touching that"

i dropped some info in there, not sure if it's helpful as i didn't read it that closely being end of my work day but i'll take another look in the morning :D

kraade
What kind of QD s do you use, I was eye-balling an alphacool 1080 and running Artic P12s just wide open 

https://koolance.com/quic...lings-low-pressure-qd3

Some folks like the QD4’s as they’re less restrictive but it’s very negligible imo and the 3’s are a little cheaper.

Hi all! 
 
I finally got around to testing some last night with mine. AI don't have enough posts to upload picture but hopefully the links to 3dmark work. I think I got a decent silicon lottery on both the core and memory based on the clock and results. 
NOTE: There is a bug in the bios for Clock Monitoring setting on the OLED. It's always 1950. Never really changes and displays real actual clock speed during operation and testing. 
 
My system:
12900k OC All P-core 5Ghz
Gigabyte Z690 Auros Master
Trident 6000Mhz CL36
Open AIR bench setup.
 
3090ti KPE
- BIOS version:  94.02.A0.00.B5
- Driver Version: 516.59
 
3DMark Versions: Steam Launcher
- GUi v2.22.7359 s64
- Port Royal V1.2
- Time Spy V1.2
 
Windows Version 21H1
- build 19043.1826
 
PX1 Version: 1.3.6.0
 
Port Royal results and test.
 
BEST (Portable A/C UNIT blowing on AC) RUN: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1653651; 
PX1 Settings: +150 Core; +910 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
 
Notes: +150 resulted in an avg 2,223 MHz clock peaking at 2235. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Worked Core up first then memory at 20 then 10 increments each run with a system reset in between runs. Starting temp at 19C with peaks at 47C ending at 46C.
 
BEST (Ambient air 72F) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1653625
PX1 Settings: +140 Core; +920 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
+150 resulted in an avg 2,210 MHz clock peaking at 2225. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Starting temp at 31C with peaks at 54C ending at 53C.
 
 
 
Time Spy results and test - I guess not many are doing Time Spy as I hit Legendary many times. Constellation Prize; ranked 7th for my exact system combo last night. May have changed by now. Being beat by massive CPU OCing and CPU score as I am just a mild 5Ghz. My GPU score was ranked #2 for the those with same system setups. 
 
BEST (Portable A/C UNIT blowing on AC) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/29379678
 
PX1 Settings: +170 Core; +800 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
 
Notes: +170 resulted in an avg 2,250 MHz clock peaking at 2250. still bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers.  Starting temp at 19C with peaks at 45C ending at 45C.
 
BEST (Ambient air 72F) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/29375024 (TOTAL SCORE: 23216; GPU: 23712; CPU 20756)
 
PX1 Settings: +140 Core; +940 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
+140 resulted in an avg 2,205 MHz clock peaking at 2220. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Starting temp at 31C with peaks at 55C ending at 55C.
 
 
Thanks for reading. 
 

UndesiredSanity
Hi all! 
 
I finally got around to testing some last night with mine. AI don't have enough posts to upload picture but hopefully the links to 3dmark work. I think I got a decent silicon lottery on both the core and memory based on the clock and results. 
NOTE: There is a bug in the bios for Clock Monitoring setting on the OLED. It's always 1950. Never really changes and displays real actual clock speed during operation and testing. 
 
My system:
12900k OC All P-core 5Ghz
Gigabyte Z690 Auros Master
Trident 6000Mhz CL36
Open AIR bench setup.
 
3090ti KPE
- BIOS version:  94.02.A0.00.B5
- Driver Version: 516.59
 
3DMark Versions: Steam Launcher
- GUi v2.22.7359 s64
- Port Royal V1.2
- Time Spy V1.2
 
Windows Version 21H1
- build 19043.1826
 
PX1 Version: 1.3.6.0
 
Port Royal results and test.
 
BEST (Portable A/C UNIT blowing on AC) RUN: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1653651; 
PX1 Settings: +150 Core; +910 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
 
Notes: +150 resulted in an avg 2,223 MHz clock peaking at 2235. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Worked Core up first then memory at 20 then 10 increments each run with a system reset in between runs. Starting temp at 19C with peaks at 47C ending at 46C.
 
BEST (Ambient air 72F) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1653625
PX1 Settings: +140 Core; +920 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
+150 resulted in an avg 2,210 MHz clock peaking at 2225. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Starting temp at 31C with peaks at 54C ending at 53C.
 
 
 
Time Spy results and test - I guess not many are doing Time Spy as I hit Legendary many times. Constellation Prize; ranked 7th for my exact system combo last night. May have changed by now. Being beat by massive CPU OCing and CPU score as I am just a mild 5Ghz. My GPU score was ranked #2 for the those with same system setups. 
 
BEST (Portable A/C UNIT blowing on AC) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/29379678
 
PX1 Settings: +170 Core; +800 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
 
Notes: +170 resulted in an avg 2,250 MHz clock peaking at 2250. still bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers.  Starting temp at 19C with peaks at 45C ending at 45C.
 
BEST (Ambient air 72F) RUN: http://www.3dmark.com/spy/29375024 (TOTAL SCORE: 23216; GPU: 23712; CPU 20756)
 
PX1 Settings: +140 Core; +940 Memory; PL Slider MAX; Voltage Slider MAX
+140 resulted in an avg 2,205 MHz clock peaking at 2220. Bouncing off of the 516W Bios PL with GPU-Z constantly reporting Pwr/VREL/VOp PerfCap triggers. Starting temp at 31C with peaks at 55C ending at 55C.
 
 
Thanks for reading. 
 

Great info! Thanks for sharing! Did you change the thermal paste or fans? I know on my old 3090 I managed to drop my GPU temps by about 10C or so after swapping those two.

mylittlepwny2

 Great info! Thanks for sharing! Did you change the thermal paste or fans? I know on my old 3090 I managed to drop my GPU temps by about 10C or so after swapping those two.

 
Everything was stock. I do like the new look of the fans but I think the loud fans from the CLC360 AIO move a lot more air. Unlike the CLC products, I wish there was a way to view the pump speed or change it. Also wish we could see the water temp. The AIO doesn't show up on HWINFO64 or EVGA's FLOW CONTROL app. I know this card was made to be taken apart and for LN2 overclocking, but the enthusiasts all would have preferred a Hydro Copper version. That reminds me, I should double check all the screw and give them some extra torque. I have received cards in the past with loose screws straight from the factory. I do have an extra Critical Pads 3090 kit. but not sure if the thicknesses would ne the same with the copper cooler for the memory and VRMs on this PCB design. 

The current HC models are due for a design change, the Delta is not that great for these high powered cards. I did see they added the HC kit, add to notify button yesterday . Hopefully in couple weeks I'll get the EK block for the Ti. interesting the FTW3 has the smallest chunk of copper of all the AIB partner kits. We shall see when they start shipping

I've had mine since Tuesday. Unfortunately it's not a great overclocker, only reaching 2160MHz sustained in Port Royal (score of 15573) which is worse than my FTW3 Ultra.

Also, does the PL increase on the OC and LN2 BIOS? I've gone through all three and can't increase PL past 108.

Ok, makes sense. What are the differences between the BIOSs then? Fan curve more aggressive?

tresnugget

SpartanM07
I've had mine since Tuesday. Unfortunately it's not a great overclocker, only reaching 2160MHz sustained in Port Royal (score of 15573) which is worse than my FTW3 Ultra.

Also, does the PL increase on the OC and LN2 BIOS? I've gone through all three and can't increase PL past 108.

They're all 516w

where do you get this from? i was seeing board draw over 568w with some voltage

zippytek

tresnugget

SpartanM07
I've had mine since Tuesday. Unfortunately it's not a great overclocker, only reaching 2160MHz sustained in Port Royal (score of 15573) which is worse than my FTW3 Ultra.

Also, does the PL increase on the OC and LN2 BIOS? I've gone through all three and can't increase PL past 108.

They're all 516w

where do you get this from? i was seeing board draw over 568w with some voltage

Looking at the bios in gpuz. Do you know if it was sustained or maybe just a spike?

tresnugget

zippytek

tresnugget

SpartanM07
I've had mine since Tuesday. Unfortunately it's not a great overclocker, only reaching 2160MHz sustained in Port Royal (score of 15573) which is worse than my FTW3 Ultra.

Also, does the PL increase on the OC and LN2 BIOS? I've gone through all three and can't increase PL past 108.

They're all 516w

where do you get this from? i was seeing board draw over 568w with some voltage

Looking at the bios in gpuz. Do you know if it was sustained or maybe just a spike?

nah it isn't sustained, and didn't get this high without pushing volts a bit. but it stays above 520w consistently at those voltages where stock volts it was low to mid 400s