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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 09:48:18
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tresnugget Power link is in stock
https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=600-PL-1658-LR
Thanks! Just ordered mine. Going to vert mount mine in custom open air 2020 aluminum frame I am building. So it will look nice for cable management.
SpartanM07 I've had mine since Tuesday. Unfortunately it's not a great overclocker, only reaching 2160MHz sustained in Port Royal (score of 15573) which is worse than my FTW3 Ultra.
Also, does the PL increase on the OC and LN2 BIOS? I've gone through all three and can't increase PL past 108.
See my results earlier. I was able to push pass 2160Mhz easily with a 72F-74F ambient air room. what are your temps at 2160Mhz?
Your post prompted me to post as you've seemed to have gotten a very good sample. My ambient is lower than yours, at 68F. I've got my card on the LN2 BIOS, PL and Voltage sliders maxed, +90 on the core (any higher and it'll crash) and +1000 on memory with the fans at 100%. Peak GPU Temperature was 65.7C, peak Hot Spot was 80.6C, and peak Memory Temperature was 76C. Core clock held at 2160MHz (did not go any higher), peak board power draw was at 498.9W. GPU-Z says the PerfCap Reason is VRel. VOp. Not sure what else I can do, just part of the silicon lottery I suppose. Just unfortunate as my 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra is faster.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 09:50:06
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Questions about the powerlink 52u:
Is there a disadvantage as you can only connect 5 8pins instead of 6? What difference would you expect to see if any? My apologies for the noob question.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:09:24
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kingpinamar Questions about the powerlink 52u:
Is there a disadvantage as you can only connect 5 8pins instead of 6? What difference would you expect to see if any? My apologies for the noob question.
Honestly it shouldn't matter. Even with 5 you should be good until 825w.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:21:14
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So it sounds like unless you’re doing some extreme oc then it’s just for aesthetics
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:28:36
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It is purely aesthetic. No benefit for xoc at all that I can see
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:34:53
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Yeah. Not sure if this is any better than the one for the FTW3 but frame chasers tested that one out and didn't get any benefit out of it.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:40:11
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:46:25
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zippytek well well well Looks like a fresh OS has me with egg on my face after all. Stock no OC after fresh w10: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77433568 more in a bit :)
Nice! I'm getting 14.8 with windows 11 at stock settings. Once my 2nd nvme drive gets here I'm going to try to dual boot with windows 10 for benchmarking
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:52:33
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I haven’t even touched w11, everything I’ve seen indicates worse effi for 3D benches
At about where my previous best run was i’m at 15646 now. Will play with voltages a bit before we setup SLI
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 11:55:34
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Drawing a max of 596w now sheesh
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:00:50
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SpartanM07 Your post prompted me to post as you've seemed to have gotten a very good sample. My ambient is lower than yours, at 68F. I've got my card on the LN2 BIOS, PL and Voltage sliders maxed, +90 on the core (any higher and it'll crash) and +1000 on memory with the fans at 100%. Peak GPU Temperature was 65.7C, peak Hot Spot was 80.6C, and peak Memory Temperature was 76C. Core clock held at 2160MHz (did not go any higher), peak board power draw was at 498.9W. GPU-Z says the PerfCap Reason is VRel. VOp. Not sure what else I can do, just part of the silicon lottery I suppose. Just unfortunate as my 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra is faster.
It might need a repaste and redo thermal pads. 65C is hot for 68F ambient room air. ARe you running the fans at 100% I don't see any benefit running the LN2 clock position. All I notice is the PCB fan shuts off unless you manually set the speed in PX1. Even with "Normal" position mode and using the auto fan curve, I got nowhere near 65C during tests. That's why I am thinking thermal paste. As I mentioned prior, I wish the Asutek pump speed and water temp was accessible to ensure that AIO is working properly. You also might want to check if all the screws in the back are torqued down properly. Even a 1/4-1/2 of a turn with more clamping force can improve heat dissipation. Could be silicon lottery or could be your card was assembled on a Monday or Friday on the production line. :-) zippytek well well well Looks like a fresh OS has me with egg on my face after all. Stock no OC after fresh w10: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77433568 more in a bit :)
Much better than your first non-OC run. I hit 15022 first non-OC run and my card seems to have good silicon lotto based on my OC results I posted earlier. Your 5.4Ghz OC CPU though is helping you out with the higher score compared to my mild 5Ghz. :). I'm interested to see your results and if they line up with mine.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:06:48
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guess it isn't a dud :) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77434130PR 15722 temps in high 50s; boosting 2220; mem +1225/core +134 with a bit of voltage and fresh os will tinker with clocks to see if i can gain a bit but i spent a decent amount of effort finding things the other night so next up may be SLI...then LN2
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:08:27
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UndesiredSanity Much better than your first non-OC run. I hit 15022 first non-OC run and my card seems to have good silicon lotto based on my OC results I posted earlier. Your 5.4Ghz OC CPU though is helping you out with the higher score compared to my mild 5Ghz. :). I'm interested to see your results and if they line up with mine.
12900KS does do 5.4-5.5 on this cooling setup without any hesitation. Getting the ring0 error before I ran the benches so I didn't bump it to 5.5 in eleet. For PR it really doesn't make much difference. What are you using to cool your 12900K?
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:13:55
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zippytek Drawing a max of 596w now sheesh
Jesus. My 15666 run was like 482w max.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:24:56
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zippytek guess it isn't a dud :) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77434130 PR 15722 temps in high 50s; boosting 2220; mem +1225/core +134 with a bit of voltage and fresh os will tinker with clocks to see if i can gain a bit but i spent a decent amount of effort finding things the other night so next up may be SLI...then LN2
What memory do you have, Samsung or Micron? I have Micron and can't go past +960 pn PX1 without artifacts or system crashing just right after hitting "APPLY" in PX1 and even with 0 Core offset. I have Micron. My other 3090's were Samsungs and had no issues pushing them to 1400+ mem offset in PX1. zippytek 12900KS does do 5.4-5.5 on this cooling setup without any hesitation. Getting the ring0 error before I ran the benches so I didn't bump it to 5.5 in eleet. For PR it really doesn't make much difference. What are you using to cool your 12900K?
I am using the EVGA CLC 360 for now with Noctua NF-A12x25 Chromax fans replacing the loud EVGA ones. I don't want to put much effort on this Gigabyte Aorus Master Z690. It has the power but I received my Z690 Dark KP motherboard the same day the 3090ti KPE. It's still sitting in the corner unboxed as I am mocking up my new open air frame I am buidling for this rig. Everything is sitting on a nighstand table at the moment. LOL.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:35:46
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 12:55:07
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zippytek guess it isn't a dud :) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77434130 PR 15722 temps in high 50s; boosting 2220; mem +1225/core +134 with a bit of voltage and fresh os will tinker with clocks to see if i can gain a bit but i spent a decent amount of effort finding things the other night so next up may be SLI...then LN2
What memory do you have, Samsung or Micron? I have Micron and can't go past +960 pn PX1 without artifacts or system crashing just right after hitting "APPLY" in PX1 and even with 0 Core offset. I have Micron. My other 3090's were Samsungs and had no issues pushing them to 1400+ mem offset in PX1.
zippytek 12900KS does do 5.4-5.5 on this cooling setup without any hesitation. Getting the ring0 error before I ran the benches so I didn't bump it to 5.5 in eleet. For PR it really doesn't make much difference. What are you using to cool your 12900K?
I am using the EVGA CLC 360 for now with Noctua NF-A12x25 Chromax fans replacing the loud EVGA ones. I don't want to put much effort on this Gigabyte Aorus Master Z690. It has the power but I received my Z690 Dark KP motherboard the same day the 3090ti KPE. It's still sitting in the corner unboxed as I am mocking up my new open air frame I am buidling for this rig. Everything is sitting on a nighstand table at the moment. LOL.
first card is micron, i doubt they used a mix of chips for this small run of 3090 ti's - have others seen samsung chips in their Ti KPEs? forgot to enable HT, little better https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/77435446 you're going to love the z690 dark, it is a very nice board for a bench setup. with how little action my daily sees, i can't imagine locking it away in a case where it would see little to no tweaking. have run a bunch of cold sessions on this board and it just incredibly capable and easy to manage. a great starter board for anyone looking to dabble in xoc for sure
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 13:30:31
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I thought all GDDR6X was Micron. I just checked the kingpin bios at techpowerup and it only lists Micron for supported memory. I haven't seen any bioses list Samsung for GDDR6X I don't think.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 14:02:15
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Yeah looks like it’s all micron
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 14:44:27
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All micron for me as well
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 18:20:06
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Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:07:19
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tresnugget I thought all GDDR6X was Micron. I just checked the kingpin bios at techpowerup and it only lists Micron for supported memory. I haven't seen any bioses list Samsung for GDDR6X I don't think.
zippytek Yeah looks like it’s all micron
P1R4HN4 All micron for me as well
Yeah, my bad guys. I looked at my mining dashboard where my 3090's were on a rig and though I saw Samsung. The Samsung's were the 2080ti FTW3's. It's so odd how some can push the memory to 1400+ offset and others like me can't get past +950.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:11:53
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
High 14,800-15000 I imagine.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:19:11
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
15,500-16,2000 I imagine.
Looks like they are right in line with the Ultra cards about 14.7k stock and 15.7k clocked , looks like win 11 takes about 220 points off so your mileage may very
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:19:59
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
High 14,800-15000 I imagine.
My highest at stock is 14,569...
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:44:20
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
15,500-16,2000 I imagine.
Looks like they are right in line with the Ultra cards about 14.7k stock and 15.7k clocked , looks like win 11 takes about 220 points off so your mileage may very
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
High 14,800-15000 I imagine.
My highest at stock is 14,569...
I had to correct my original post. I didn't have a FTW 3090ti, just my KPE one and regular 3090. My KPE did 15022 no OC with fans at 100% 72F room. I would install the latest drivers with a clean and update bios with the latest PX1 software. Give that a try.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 19:46:22
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Gonfonix Hey everyone. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but what should a default score (no OC; stock card) be on Port Royal with an RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra (Windows 11)?
15,500-16,2000 I imagine.
Looks like they are right in line with the Ultra cards about 14.7k stock and 15.7k clocked , looks like win 11 takes about 220 points off so your mileage may very
I've run both (both stripped down bench OS). They're nearly identical in any of the 3dmark benchmarks. Definitely not 200pts between them.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/15 23:20:24
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
2022/07/16 02:39:43
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Surprised some of you haven't tried the strix 890w vbios.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* EVGA RTX 3090 Ti / 3090 Kingpin
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Sajin Surprised some of you haven't tried the strix 890w vbios.
Haha I'm too scared to brick the card. It's only been a few days of ownership. I'll wait to others do it first. :-)
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