Interesting. Not sure how anyone is hitting the PL at stock bios then. Even Luumi seems to have seen negligible improvements with even a small amount of core voltage (1.18 nvvdd PLL 5)

I wonder if what we are seeing with the 3090 Ti is a vrm capable of powering the 40 series and so it barely breaks a sweat here. Surely twin 12VHPWR are overkill. May explain him saying the xoc bios isn’t needed. I’ll send it this week so if you aren’t comfortable pushing more voltage just wait and let me take one for the team lol

tresnugget

zippytek
Interesting. Not sure how anyone is hitting the PL at stock bios then. Even Luumi seems to have seen negligible improvements with even a small amount of core voltage (1.18 nvvdd PLL 5)

I wonder if what we are seeing with the 3090 Ti is a vrm capable of powering the 40 series and so it barely breaks a sweat here. Surely twin 12VHPWR are overkill. May explain him saying the xoc bios isn’t needed. I’ll send it this week so if you aren’t comfortable pushing more voltage just wait and let me take one for the team lol

I've still got headroom on the ln2 bios and it isn't doing anything funky where is hitting pl on some rail but not the board limit. That said, my 3090 KPE would hit about 480w and putting it to 1.15v would send it above 520w. But maybe you're right and the VRM can keep it it efficient enough where it doesn't need much more voltage.

i'll tinker with it this week. you've seen the Luumi vid i assume? stock he was able to get it to 15800ish PR just w px1 sliders no classified. with classified it was slightly worse. did it need even more nvvdd? hard to know from his video but it is not hard to know from my own testing :)

Wasn't able to get more than ~105 offset on the GPU using PX1 so I pushed through 1.25V on nvvdd on the classy tool just to see if it helped.  Didn't crash immediately, but the heat quickly got out of control and was dropping clocks.  So tanked the score on PR.  Was power limited on that run win the LN2 bios.  If I could control the heat better may be some benefit.  But also likely a better balance for voltage.

fragility_V1
Wasn't able to get more than ~105 offset on the GPU using PX1 so I pushed through 1.25V on nvvdd on the classy tool just to see if it helped.  Didn't crash immediately, but the heat quickly got out of control and was dropping clocks.  So tanked the score on PR.  Was power limited on that run win the LN2 bios.  If I could control the heat better may be some benefit.  But also likely a better balance for voltage.

makes sense. more cores = more heat. prob be cheaper to get a portable AC unit from target and send them SLI before i refill LN2 later this month

zippytek

tresnugget

fragility_V1
Wasn't able to get more than ~105 offset on the GPU using PX1 so I pushed through 1.25V on nvvdd on the classy tool just to see if it helped.  Didn't crash immediately, but the heat quickly got out of control and was dropping clocks.  So tanked the score on PR.  Was power limited on that run win the LN2 bios.  If I could control the heat better may be some benefit.  But also likely a better balance for voltage.

I was able to get +120 on the core but I think my memory above like +600 was making my score go down which isn't great. I was getting really bad artifacts at like +750.

Luumi was running like +1515 mem before it crashed so he must have one of those good bin special deliveries from Vince

Memory I think I could push +1000, but anything higher caused a hard crash of the system. Still have a lot more playing around to do. I'm trying to convince myself that since there's no waterblock, I can just spend the money on a floor AC unit for it.

The Memory loto seems to be far and few between , Never got a KPE over 1300 without artifacting with the 2 samples I had , the Ti is closer to the edge and my 3090Ti's limit is +850.

redteamgo

rzelek506

kevinc313

rzelek506

redteamgo
its possible they want to bundle the PSU with the kingpin because of all of the 3090 KPE failures and this one has been specifically tested

What 3090 KPE failures? I thought all the EVGA 3090 failures were with the FTW3-based cards?

My first 3090 KPE died within 2 days, no significant overclocking, just running the card.  Earlier this year.

Sorry to hear.
May I ask what was the reason it died? Did EVGA provide a reason or do you have an idea as to why?
I thought Kingpins weren't susceptible to the transient power spike issues encountered on other 3090s, or are they?

 
I never had a new world problem with my kingpins.  however... 
 
I had not one, not two, but three kingpins die on me.  Two were power failures and one was a hybrid pump failure, all on stock bios.  The two power failures failed at boot with a strong burnt odor and a OLED "low voltage" warning.  there are many people that had the same thing happen but there is a lot of reluctance to talk about because of concerns on RMA denial, competency in the process to convert to water cooling, wishy washy product availability etc.   I even have videos of it happening that I can dig up and thats just with my rigs

That sucks.
Were they dead on arrival or did they die after many weeks/months of use?
I wonder whether these power failures are design problems with the card or simply a manufacturing issue with the way they were assembled and put together.

Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

rzelek506

redteamgo

rzelek506

kevinc313

rzelek506

redteamgo
its possible they want to bundle the PSU with the kingpin because of all of the 3090 KPE failures and this one has been specifically tested

What 3090 KPE failures? I thought all the EVGA 3090 failures were with the FTW3-based cards?

My first 3090 KPE died within 2 days, no significant overclocking, just running the card.  Earlier this year.

Sorry to hear.
May I ask what was the reason it died? Did EVGA provide a reason or do you have an idea as to why?
I thought Kingpins weren't susceptible to the transient power spike issues encountered on other 3090s, or are they?

 
I never had a new world problem with my kingpins.  however... 
 
I had not one, not two, but three kingpins die on me.  Two were power failures and one was a hybrid pump failure, all on stock bios.  The two power failures failed at boot with a strong burnt odor and a OLED "low voltage" warning.  there are many people that had the same thing happen but there is a lot of reluctance to talk about because of concerns on RMA denial, competency in the process to convert to water cooling, wishy washy product availability etc.   I even have videos of it happening that I can dig up and thats just with my rigs

That sucks.
Were they dead on arrival or did they die after many weeks/months of use?
I wonder whether these power failures are design problems with the card or simply a manufacturing issue with the way they were assembled and put together.

all of mine that died  went quickly, within 1-2 weeks.  1st was a pump failure at the 2 week mark, the card never actually died - just became inoperable.  The 2nd and 3rd died and died very quickly - just a few days.  in fact, the 3rd died before the 2nd advance RMA even got back to EVGA.  both 2 and 3 had a strong, temporary burnt odor coming from the back the card, no GPU output, machine otherwise boots fine, OLED reports low voltage warning. the 4th has been going strong and was converted to HC.  i suspect it was an assembly or solder issue but I didn't get specific feedback on root cause.  I have the 10 year warranty so when it finally dies, they'll send me a RTX 8010 in the year 2031 :P
 
also, I wouldn't hesitate to get another kingpin and block for a second, even at the higher MSRP.  unfortunately, my Q3 pipeline completely collapsed in the past few weeks and I have to put vanity purchases aside for now.  stay safe out there.

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

zippytek

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

Well it was a limited run so not that surprising

Hope everyone who wanted one got one

Jacob did reiterate on twitter that is was a limited run. If someone passed thinking it was going to be subject to the same market conditions as mass produced 3090ti's and they could get one much cheaper they now get to kick themselves in the keister and wait for eBay/StockX to kick in.
 
I made that mistake before with the KPE 1080ti and ended up having to tuck tail and get one off of eBay.
 
 
 

electrosoft

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

zippytek

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

Well it was a limited run so not that surprising

Hope everyone who wanted one got one

Jacob did reiterate on twitter that is was a limited run. If someone passed thinking it was going to be subject to the same market conditions as mass produced 3090ti's and they could get one much cheaper they now get to kick themselves in the keister and wait for eBay/StockX to kick in.
 
I made that mistake before with the KPE 1080ti and ended up having to tuck tail and get one off of eBay.
 

this is precisely why i bought 2

electrosoft

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

zippytek

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

Well it was a limited run so not that surprising

Hope everyone who wanted one got one

Jacob did reiterate on twitter that is was a limited run. If someone passed thinking it was going to be subject to the same market conditions as mass produced 3090ti's and they could get one much cheaper they now get to kick themselves in the keister and wait for eBay/StockX to kick in.
 
I made that mistake before with the KPE 1080ti and ended up having to tuck tail and get one off of eBay.
 
 
 

I totally get you, my friend! I had to do so with the KP 2080 ti and KP 3090. My wallet still won't look at me even today because of those two purchases. Man those prices...

NewValaric

Sajin
Looks like the 3090 ti kingpin finally sold out.

Crap! I feel so bad for the guys who could not get their hands on this card. But it was always a limited run...
 
I guess the only hope is the aftermarket one, but the prices there...

Everybody had a chance as it was available on the EVGA site after the queue ended. Only didn't get one if someone was asleep.

redteamgo
Zippy!  you promised pics post beach.  you're clearly back lol

my first package just arrived like 15 mins ago! IT IS A CHONKER. it's a balmy 99F here today, but i will try to get it on the bench tonight :)

3090 ti took a big drop today too 1499, never seen 700$ in depreciation in 3 months on a new card