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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/02 11:45:02 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/02 16:09:16 (permalink)
Have you considered adding another PSU, and splitting the load. It would be hard to do cleanly on many cases. I'm a little surprised, but not shocked it's talking to you. 
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/02 19:24:30 (permalink)
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Have you considered adding another PSU, and splitting the load. It would be hard to do cleanly on many cases. I'm a little surprised, but not shocked it's talking to you. 




ya a dual PSU would reduce loads and i have looked at a few cases that have the capability of accepting two out of the box earlier but... i don't know. something like the Corsair Obsidian 900D looks like it would flip the bill all right. it has just under double the available radiator surface area, 192 cm2 vs 117 cm2 , and the space for two power supplies. but i hate those 5.25" drive bays in my window... maybe remove them and add a second res/pump for a dual loop system? sigh, at this point though i think imma just try and make what i got work and learn from these complications for my next full system build. and by the looks of things with more companies trying to sell these large monster cases i might find the perfect candidate by then.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 07:18:59 (permalink)
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So close, just an hour more for leak test and then she'll be off to the races!

Why Mods don't ban this?
 
Such outrageous pornography certainly violate TOS. 
 
 
 
Sadly way past my budget capabilities.
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 07:36:41 (permalink)
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So close, just an hour more for leak test and then she'll be off to the races!

Why Mods don't ban this?
 
Such outrageous pornography certainly violate TOS. 
 
 
 
Sadly way past my budget capabilities.


I've checked our EVGA forum rules and nothing mentioned against use of tech porn. LOL!

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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 09:05:21 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 09:30:13 (permalink)
Oh, that block is not a series block. It has 3 in series with 4. See diagram below.



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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 09:36:30 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 10:40:33 (permalink)
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I've checked our EVGA forum rules and nothing mentioned against use of tech porn. LOL!




Porn is porn whichever way you look at it. 
 
Then at least some PG rating. 
 
Seriously now. That bridge is same model as for Linus 7 GPU rig right?
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 11:03:05 (permalink)
It's a great looking build. I kind of wonder how well it would benchmark. Also love the green color it just feels right for a system with so many NVIDIA cards in it.
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/03 11:41:07 (permalink)
Yes, its the same block used in that 7 gamers 1 pc rig video. Once I figure out the over heating issue i'll test it. But i did do testing on the quad sli 1070 with a dedicated 5th 1070 for physics.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/04 00:50:19 (permalink)
Overheating issue?
 
Just downloaded timelapse build video. Hmm you can be at capacity of the loop. I can see 2x420/45 and dual DDC on X99 Classy. That's cutting it awfully close especially if you OC CPU and VGAs. 5x1070 (5x150W nominal) you would be more than fine but 1080Ti draws basically 70% more power at nominal clocks (5x250W) and then there is CPU (130W nominal) in the mix.
 
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/04 06:37:34 (permalink)
oh my GPU's are not over heating. they peak at ~ 47-52C and stay there, would be lower if the A/C could keep the room cooler its ~ 30C. it is my power supply that isn't able to stay cool enough to deliver more than 1200W 24/7. once i turn on the 5th GPU i am around 1400W and in a few hours the system just cuts off, black screen power loss. i am also working on my second video that shows the new 1080ti GPU's but it may be a few weeks before i can finish editing it.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/04 07:14:30 (permalink)
Oh... that kind of overheating LOL. Well you wanted monster folder. ;)
 
Now you have your rig its time to lay some new power cables or even better build cold fusion power station. 
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/04 14:18:50 (permalink)
Have you tried leaving the voltages at default and running all 5 cards? You may not be able to OC as well, but they may all be able to run at the same time. 

 
 

 
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/04 14:30:57 (permalink)
i tried setting the power limit to 80% and it still crashed in 2.5 hours. so unless i lower the power limit further than it would be meaningless for me to run 5 limped instead 4 OCed.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 03:28:38 (permalink)
No way your PSU can handle that all. lol  I bet your PSU is sucking all that super hot air on top of working passed its limits. 

Regardless, your GPU temps look surprisingly good but with how much rad?  Single or dual loop?  Would love to see a list of your full system and loop specs.  To me, I would haven't gone no less than 120.2 per GPU and that amounts to a ton of rad surface needed but of course I'm more into silence. 
 
I think your best bet in cases if you're gonna build these monster rigs is go with either 900D as you stated or with the premium Caselabs.

Do you at least have dual pumps in serial at the least for redundancy?

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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 06:03:05 (permalink)
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No way your PSU can handle that all. lol  I bet your PSU is sucking all that super hot air on top of working passed its limits. 

Regardless, your GPU temps look surprisingly good but with how much rad?  Single or dual loop?  Would love to see a list of your full system and loop specs.  To me, I would haven't gone no less than 120.2 per GPU and that amounts to a ton of rad surface needed but of course I'm more into silence. 
 
I think your best bet in cases if you're gonna build these monster rigs is go with either 900D as you stated or with the premium Caselabs.

Do you at least have dual pumps in serial at the least for redundancy?




someone hasn't read the OP. (original post)
 
and yes the PSU can handle it as previously stated the PC runs @1400W under full load. this is only 85% of the total capacity of the 1600W PSU. as for air it doesnt pull air in from the case at all, only from under it. the problem is that everyone mentions how small the PSU air supply is on this case, i think the total area is about a 120mm fan. and this gets compounded when you have a large PSU like i do and just under half the fan has blocked access to fresh air.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 07:08:29 (permalink)
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someone hasn't read the OP. (original post)




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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 07:18:05 (permalink)
i was simply answering the majority of your questions with one statement. as for your advice if you did the math i have a 140mmx40mm radiator equivalent per gpu/cpu in the system, hence the reasonable temps. granted fan speeds are always in excess of 80% but silence is something i find to be extremely distracting and kinda creepy, so it doesn't bother me. i also do use a dual DDC pump setup, so yes there is redundancy there. i also have it so if temps start to reach excessive lvls it shuts down F@H completely.
 
i do agree that a larger case with more radiator space and better airflow design would be ideal. but at this point i want to make what i got work rather than rebuild from scratch again.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 07:58:20 (permalink)
I suppose it comes down to modding the case so the airflow isn't restricted for the power supply.
Good luck with.your system.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 11:07:51 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/07 11:21:52 (permalink)
I just hate the look of a cube case... functionally i have nothing against it but this tower is on my desk and i need to be happy with the way it looks there. So, personal preferences keep me away from that style of case.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/08 09:06:17 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/08 09:41:59 (permalink)
If the case isn't atleast 2x taller than it is wide i see the it as a cube. I also do not think i have enough room to put a wide case like that on my desk with dual monitors. I think i'll just wait for corsair concept slate to be released and get that. Have the windows gaming machine on the its mother board and 5x gpu linux machine on the reast.
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/09 09:26:48 (permalink)
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/10 17:32:54 (permalink)
OK! after taking a closer look at the bottom of the case around the intake for the PSU it was divided in half. half was coming from below and the other half from the inside of the case, as it is raised ~1/2" off the floor of the case. Now i know i am taking a higher risk here but i went ahead and flipped the PSU around so it'll pull 100% unrestricted air from the inside of the case. doing this exposes the internals to possible leaks and not something i want to keep indefinitely but i need to see if overheating PSU is the culprit. i currently have all 5 slots folding and pulling ~1390W from the wall and i'll see what happens in a few hours.
 
EDIT: well, 4 hours in and its still folding on all 5x GPU's pulling an average of ~1450W! i am actually quite glad that i seem to have found the culprit. now i just need to devise some shield to protect from possible leaks as i think that would be much easier than trying to mod the case directly.
 
EDIT2: an overnight success, now to see if it makes it through the heat of a summer day.
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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/11 08:46:48 (permalink)
OK, with the primary heat of the day passing here are the stats. My cold side of my loop has the coolant @41C, four of the five GPU's are @51C with the one GPU sandwiched between two others is @56C, and the CPU at the end of the loop is @64C only running @42% load but its OCed slightly to 4.1GHz. i really wish i had a coolant temp sensor between the CPU and first radiator so i would know just how much the coolant is heated up. ambient air temps are ~32-35C and the exhaust radiator air temps are ~49C.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/11 09:13:25 (permalink)
You'd be a prime candidate for immersion cooling.
The Novec solution from 3m boils at temps as low as 30c. Then you just run a cool water loop above it to condense it back down.


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Re: New 5 GPU's 1 PC Build 2017/06/11 10:48:17 (permalink)
Your coolant through out the loop is going to be the same roughly because your loop reaches a equilibrium state.  Having a few sensors is fine as I have to give me a good average or delta.  I use both air and water to give me delta of the loop.  I use one of my water temp probes as a source for my fan and pump curves.  I usually heat up anywhere from 35c-40c when gaming or at most during folding which will force my curves to run at their set max.

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