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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/26 19:06:53 (permalink)
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Nateman, first things first.  Your blocks look amazing, as does your new mill.  

I have always had a big interest in milling. Your work has somewhat inspired me to try my hand in it. Any suggestions for a noob on where to start? 

 
Thanks!!  Considering I am still new to this, ask yourself the following questions:
 
1. What do you want to mill (as in how large of parts)?
2. How much money are you willing to spend (or do u have)?
3. How much time are you willing to put forth to the effort?
4. Are you a perfectionist?
5. How handy are you?
 
If you can truthfully answer those questions I can steer you in the right direction.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/26 20:53:37 (permalink)
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xsk8er9000

Nateman, first things first.  Your blocks look amazing, as does your new mill.  

I have always had a big interest in milling. Your work has somewhat inspired me to try my hand in it. Any suggestions for a noob on where to start? 


Thanks!!  Considering I am still new to this, ask yourself the following questions:

1. What do you want to mill (as in how large of parts)?
2. How much money are you willing to spend (or do u have)?
3. How much time are you willing to put forth to the effort?
4. Are you a perfectionist?
5. How handy are you?

If you can truthfully answer those questions I can steer you in the right direction.


1) Well I would like to play around with some water blocks, I wouldn't imagine at the moment that most of anything I would want to make would deviate from the dimensions of a full board block. 
2)  Money wise, I can throw a decent amount at it. I'm certainly not made of money but what I have left over after bills and whatnot can vary from $300-$1000 of spending money in a month. (I work on commission so it varies.)
3) Time is not a huge factor for me. I'm willing to put all my spare hours towards it. I'm not necessarily looking to be up and running tomorrow if you know what I mean.
4) I am a perfectionist. Haha I guess you can say I have OCD about the things I create.
5) Pretty handy. I have a background in a lot so build wise I can get by. My only thing I can foresee that if it's required I might have a problem with is welding. I have only ever used an arc welder and it was enough to get by but it wasn't pretty. Practicing is always an option.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/26 22:16:00 (permalink)
1 will answer what size machine you need to get. 
2 will determine manual/CNC and also help with 1.  Also tools are VERY expensive. 
3 this is not something that can be done in a day, month, or even a few.  This is a profession that people learn in school
4 if your a perfectionist, it may benefit you most to purchase a better quality machine (not chinese made)
5 If you want to make your own machine, you will learn SOOO much more then just buying one.  Plus the pride in your work, but if you buy one you will be ready to go once you purchase it. 
 
For example, the large machine I am making has a work envelope of 18 x 18 (not the one I have been showing in this thread) which is 324 square inches.
 
This machine has a slightly larger work envelope of 378 (9x42) square inches:

http://www.grizzly.com/pr...-x-42-with-DRO/SB1024F
 
...and that machine isn't even CNC.  I would be THOUSANDS more if it was.  Perhaps another question to ask yourself, do you have a dedicated area in your basement for it? 
 
 
Back to question 4.  I spend DAYS tramming my machine.  I will post pics in the morning of the process, but all its doing is making sure the machine is square in every direction of travel. 
 
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 03:42:59 (permalink)
I love it when people think that a couple of weeks and a few thousand dollars will make them master block makers:)
 
kidding aside though it is a very worth wile skill if you want to pursue it. but be carefull, I have 50k into just the software for my machines, let alone the machines themselves and the training costs and the thousands of hours of practice. and I am not even close to knowing what I am doing like some of the people I work with. but it sure is nice when a piece turns out great from a lump of metal:)
 
the real kicker is once you have spent the time and money and have gained some skill, people cry when you wand more than $10 bucks an hour to make cool stuff for them.lol
 
by the way nate, the machine is looking awsome!!
post edited by Gratuitous - 2011/12/27 03:50:05

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 05:05:08 (permalink)
Now don't go scaring everyone off with the 50K in software, I haven't spent a dime (yet).  Remember you run a business, you get a return on investment.  My ROI is much less...
 
You can get a CNC controller software for free, but its limited to 500 lines of code.  I have to keep all my block codes under 500 lines (so far only the P67 block has gone over that), but even the software itself is 300.  Knowing how to use it though, thats a different story.  It was easier for me to build the machine, then to learn how to use it. 
 
On a lighter note, I am 0.001" (along the Y axis) away from trying the machine out.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 06:25:57 (permalink)
X axis:

+/- 0.0005.  Good.
 
Y axis:

0.001...  Meh.  Needs more work.  It can take me an entire evening to make that 0.001" read 0. 
That little tick mark 1 notch away from 0 is all thats stopping me from firing it up.

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 07:46:09 (permalink)
hopefully fixing one doesn't mess up the other lol

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 08:10:35 (permalink)
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hopefully fixing one doesn't mess up the other lol

Great, you jinxed it! lol


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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 08:13:45 (permalink)
Fine blame me if it does >.<

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 10:34:44 (permalink)
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hopefully fixing one doesn't mess up the other lol

It always does.  This is all done with shims, the same kind you gap your spark plugs with. 
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 10:39:43 (permalink)
Yeeeeaaaa!! I'm off the hook! erm umm that sucks...

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 10:52:02 (permalink)
yah, thats tedious work, but it looks like you are getting it close. cant wait to hear you are makeing chips again:)

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 11:53:29 (permalink)
The nice thing is that the machine is very sturdy, and when it would normally crash, only the bits break and the machine maintains its accuracy. 
 
That bracing I did at the top of the column to the walls of the house, and the aluminum bracing made that column so much more rigid then before.  I can't wait to try the machine out.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 12:39:21 (permalink)
awsome man!
 
speaking of bits. add in easy $3000 a year in tooling if using it a moderate amount:) machining is not a cheap hobby, lol

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 14:08:05 (permalink)
Ehh, that depends on what anyone wants to do. Just the tools to measure your machine like dial indicators can cost hundreds, or u can buy the chinese stuff like I do, because the tolerances for waterblocks are not as high as what other things may be.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 21:12:02 (permalink)

 
SUCCESS! 
Liquid flows, spindle turns, all axis move & chips fly!  All the fluid goes into my recirculating system which is filtered by... an Applebea's take out container.  WIN.  The first cut seen is just a basic outline of my work envelope which is around 11.7" x 7.8".  This will help putting any raw material down on the plate and see where the bits will cut.
 
I think I am going to make a dedicated post for this machine build to have all the pictures in one place.  Most likely in the General Discussion section.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/27 21:26:13 (permalink)
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SUCCESS! 
Liquid flows, spindle turns, all axis move & chips fly!  All the fluid goes into my recirculating system which is filtered by... an Applebea's take out container.  WIN.  The first cut seen is just a basic outline of my work envelope which is around 11.7" x 7.8".  This will help putting any raw material down on the plate and see where the bits will cut.

I think I am going to make a dedicated post for this machine build to have all the pictures in one place.  Most likely in the General Discussion section.

Congrats on the success of the new machine. Looks great. Can't wait to see some new blocks from this thing.


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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 06:21:31 (permalink)
Its really just the same mill, just rebuilt and improved.  The REAL new mill thats coming is MUCH larger...
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 10:40:46 (permalink)
I finally moved all the Machine related stuff to its own thread:
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1388758
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 11:30:18 (permalink)
The new blocks you plan on making for customers are you going to be doing on your new machine?  That thing looks awesome!  I wish I had the time to do that kind of cool stuff.  I can imagine how huge the learning curve must have been. 

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 12:14:39 (permalink)
It really was quite the learning curve. 
 
I will be making everything on this machine until I finish the other machine.
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 12:52:56 (permalink)
Not to pester you, I know you have a zillion projects, but did you finally get around to making matching CPU blocks?

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 17:40:22 (permalink)
I made replacement tops for Danger Den 1366 CPU blocks. 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1105103
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/28 20:58:59 (permalink)
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I made replacement tops for Danger Den 1366 CPU blocks. 
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1105103


they work awsome on my x5672's btw! nice and cool

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/29 05:17:18 (permalink)
Great job!  Can you send me a PM with a combo price.  2 tops and the board block.

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/29 06:18:33 (permalink)
You have a PM
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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/29 08:01:08 (permalink)
Thanks brother.  Go ahead and let's do it, just sent you my paypal!  I can't wait to get them, well... actually I can so don't rush by any means.  I still have to get the radiator, pump, and everything else....
 
Any suggestions on what would pair up nice with this?  I can fit a massive 420 radiator in my Ellysium case and I have room for another 360 in the bottom.  Just one should be enough though I think :).  I'm new to WC so any suggestions would be much appreciated!
 
Pump (enough for the cpus, mobo, 2 video cards)?
Reservoir?
Rads?
Connectors (by the way, what size are you milling the holes G1/4?)?  I think someone said that black ones match up nicely.
 
 
post edited by usmc0656 - 2011/12/29 08:12:16

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/29 12:47:09 (permalink)
Take a look at case labs . net you may wish to have more room then your current case has. you may thank your self later for it.
they can also be found on the overclocker forums.

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/30 06:32:53 (permalink)
Those are nice but I'm kind of married to mine already and I don't believe in divorce (my wife is reading over my shoulder). 
 
Besides the case, any ideas on what matches well with this block and the CPU blocks so that I get decent flow rates?

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Re:100% Copper SR2 full coverage waterblock! 2011/12/30 07:17:01 (permalink)
well, lets see. what I am running right now is dual d5 pumps with a massive serial loop 1/2" id tubeing and I have my rads (3 120x3 swiftec) about 15 feet away from the computer. its got about 35 feet of tubing and qd's on all the blocks so it is very restrictive atm and at 100% load I cant get my 5672's to go over 40 deg c. and thier overclocked to 4gigs.
 
this is only a temp setup for me, lol its been this way for 6 months wile i havnt had time to finish the setup. I highly recomend the d5 pump wise and get quick disconects so if you end up ripping down the build 20 times like I have so far then its quick and easy. my tubing is super stiff, so it would be hard to use it to fit comfortably in a case. I will be going hard line for final build of this so I would say that using 1/2 id 5/8 od would be fine or even 3/8 id. nates blocks are not restrictive so it will be your fittings and run that will slow your rate fown if anything.
 


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