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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/13 23:00:49 (permalink)
Got my new replacement card and I’m hammering the hell out of it probably about 30plus hours on this new one in cyberpunk with an over clock Of +85 and a mem overclock of +200 the card came with the latest driver 460.97 this card I’m calling evga’s version two card ie black lips card. One thing I have noticed is temp I’ve cranked the fan speed up at 60 degrees and it keeps the card in the blue for hours in game play but if I don’t open PX1 then temps go up and make the LEDs go red, so I’m having to open PX1 every time even though it’s set to run on windows startup. but only this way seems to keep it cool.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/14 02:37:07 (permalink)
My card also died playing Halo 3 MCC and I just got my RMA replacement. I’m too scared to try Halo again though for now lol. Did you guys also get the pop noise and red light above the pcie power cables?

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/14 04:45:19 (permalink)
I'm sad to say I need to add my 3090 FTW3 Ultra to the list of failed cards. I thought it was rock solid (have had it for a month) but last night while playing Division 2 it just died. Crashed to desktop, then both of my displays were covered in thousands of pixelated squares that changed to tiny dots. Rebooted the machine, it appeared to be fine for 20 minutes then it happened all over again and the displays finally went black. It was a 2014 Taiwan card if that matters. I am so heartbroken by this....I just emailed support to try to get my replacement, I hope they have them available. I paid for advanced RMA with Sat already. 

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/20 17:36:11 (permalink)
This happened to me playing Final Fantasy 15 Windows Edition last night. It restarted fine, got back in played some more. Went to turn on my computer this morning and it does not register. Checked it in my wife's computer, again same issue. The card bricked over a OC that Precision did itself through its software, and now it is a useless card. My memory was working fine before the 3090, now its iffy on it's overclock. I am going to assume it did not cause that and that it was just an issue waiting to happen but, it happened in a separate game now too. Be careful I guess, regardless of intensity of the game. I ran for 8 hours before the problem occurred. Played for another 4 afterwards. 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming, 10900k, Corsair Dominator 3200mhz ram, Z490 FTW Motherboard, 1000W Plat EVGA Supernova. Everything in this machine is top to near top of line and it still did this. These cards are power unstable, (3090 in general, not blaming EVGA here). the 3000 series seems to be put up against a hard wall to get as much out of them as possible to stem the competition and as such, I look at these cards failing as much as the 2080ti did. A LOT.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/23 13:47:24 (permalink)
Hello, I had a 3090 running solid for two months playing call of duty, forza, witcher 3, red dead 2, borderlands 2 and some . I randomly wanted to play some Halo MCC, and when I did my FTW3 3090 got bricked :( . I haven't gotten RMA approval yet, I am also based in Canada (Capitial region) so I would imagine shipping would take weeks :(
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/01/24 17:57:02 (permalink)
So is this problem just related to the 3090 cards or all 3000 series



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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/02 07:19:12 (permalink)
i saw the same problem on youtube
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/04 22:31:18 (permalink)
Well Well Well! Add another FTW3 ULTRA to the Kill count of 3090’s playing MCC, I was playing Halo 2, after finishing 5 missions starting up into the next one I paused to go use the Restroom, and I come back to black screens and my fans going Overdrive. Just filled out the RMA form, so To anyone out there who has one or knows someone with an EVGA 3090 (Not sure if it’s only EVGA cards) PLEASE WARN THEM AS TO NOT PLAY MCC!!! It appears this game is more demanding than Cyberpunk 2077 (lol), but seriously Be careful people Halo MCC and 3090 = No Good! I will try to get into contact with Microsoft and or 343 industries about the issue but DONT LET YOUR 3090 TOUCH MCC!!
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/05 02:54:22 (permalink)
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Both had different PSU which met the power requirements, each is 750W.



3090 has a recommended PSU of 850W and your PSUs were (used probably) 750W so much less than 750W in reality depending on years of usage. Try undervolting the GPU and see what that does. If it works then you need new PSU.

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/05 07:09:20 (permalink)
Well I have a 1000 watt 80+ gold and it still happened.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/05 07:24:35 (permalink)
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Hello, Recently got a 3090 FTW3 ULTRA.
 
I plugged it into my PC, and it worked fantastic for 2.5 hours. Then, I received a crash while playing Halo(very low utilization as it's a potato game, and was frame locked to 165), followed by "no video signal". Restarting did not fix, and when I put in my old graphics card, there was no signal either - the motherboards PCIEx16 slot was straight up dead.
 
Lucky, I had a backup PC, and put the 3090 in here, it still worked. However, I just received the exact same issue - a crash followed by no video output from GPU. This time, the computer restarted and output resumed. But I'm worried that there will be a next time, and it will also kill my second PC. Two crashes, all within 2.5 hours of use on two different PCs, on a game that barely stresses the GPU, one which resulted in a straight up destroyed mobo seems to be a major problem.
 
To clear up any questions I know will be asked - both PC's had their nvidia drivers cleanly installed for the 3090 prior to use. Both had different PSU which met the power requirements, each is 750W. Both were seated/installed correctly. Both PCs had run w/ a 1080(bought shortly after it was released) prior to the 3090 and have never had any sort of hardware failure related to the GPU during they're use. Both PCs were top of the line, first one was using a 10900k, second a 7700k, with rest of hardware matching quality. Temperatures were closely monitored and never got close to anything I would worry about, for both CPU and GPU. I don't have graphs, unfortunately.
 
edit: I ran a bit of a benchmark stress test - maximum temperature never exceeded 75 under full stress load(99%), which is the same as my ingame experience when I first got the card. As said earlier, the crashes described occurred instead under very light load, under 10% due to Halo being a potato game. I will run a continuous test overnight at 10% GPU load and update this post in the AM. 
 
What I'm looking for:
 
1) An explanation as to what is causing these crashes, as I see a ton of issues that appear similar when I google it, hopefully from EVGA.
 
2) A solution, if one exists, which I have not found in my googling.
 
3) Some advice on how to test power draw / temperature in a controlled way(haven't done much benchmarking in the past so would like some advice on which software is best for this)
 
4) Some reassurance that this graphics card will not fry PC #2, especially after I just experienced the same crash which fried my extremely expensive, relatively new 10900k machine. I already ordered a replacement mobo, and would very much like to know that I can put my 3090 back into my computer and not end up just frying another $250 dollar motherboard because of some absurd crash. 




How did it fry your PCIE?


The FTW3 cards are known to pull more than 75 watts from the PCI express slot on the mobo. 75 watts is the maximum spec so if your mobo isn't over designed, it could kill the slot.

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/10 18:53:52 (permalink)
This is actually shocking to come across as on Monday (02/08/21) this exact same thing happened. I started with the stock market, then the playing 30 minutes of EFT and then into MCC of halo with a buddy. Had played halo previously last week and weekend without issue. Within 20 seconds of getting into a game, my screen showed no input and I pulled off my headphones to what sounded like my ears ringing but the noise coming from my gpu. Rebooted and no signal to my display, Reseated my gpu and ram sticks as for whatever reason my mobo lit the dram light on boot. Rebooted again with the display finally showing but the ringing noise still obnoxiously loud and bothering my ears and my dogs. The noise was also accompanied by what sounded like a gurgled crunching. My rig before would run at 20-25c while idle and after rebooting, wouldn't go below 40c while idle. Ran some tasks and the card got up to 75 without the gpu fans coming on and then going black screen again. My replacement should arrive tomorrow or Friday, this at least tells me not to play halo for the time being which is unfortunate. Hopefully a fix comes out soon
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/11 04:17:32 (permalink)
Wow. I was also playing Halo with a friend when my card died. The load wasn't high but he was having connection issues which was causing the game to stutter. Maybe it was something to do with the high/low gpu usage fluctuations. I don't think I'll be playing through the rest of halo 4 now D:
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/11 05:48:11 (permalink)
It´s even funny to have a $2000 card and not be able to play a completely outdated game. I was even thinking about to playing this game, bit it seems like i´m not allowed to do that. lol
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/11 05:57:49 (permalink)
https://forums.evga.com/Fixing-EVGA39s-7-Figure-Problem-with-FTW3-30-Series-cards-m3217284.aspx
 
You will probably be good by limiting your max voltage somehow, either with a general undervolt or by locking your voltage at some point below 1.068 (or whatever the actual safe voltage really is).
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/13 07:14:49 (permalink)
I'm having exactly the same crash and loss of video output using a 2080 Super FTW3 Hybrid when playing Halo Reach from MCC.  No damage to my card as yet!
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/02/21 16:58:27 (permalink)
Seen a lot of 3090 that do this crash

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/03/21 11:02:00 (permalink)
Just gonna chime in here and say I have a non-EVGA 3090 and have had no problems playing the MCC for quite a few hours, probably at least 100 on the 3090. 
 
Think about it.
A lot of people play Halo, and there are a fair amount of 3090 owners. It is therefore likely that if a 3090 were to fail, it would be when someone is playing Halo. 
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/03/21 11:18:21 (permalink)
I've got an RTX 3090 and I've played about every game possible (yes Halo too) and no issues to date. 

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/03/21 13:23:12 (permalink)
no problems playing MCC on a zotac 3080 sounds like a EVGA issue not the game...lol

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/03/21 14:35:57 (permalink)
Yea and if you’ve read the forums we all have EVGA 3090, which is why we sre saying it’s a 3090 issue. The thing is it’s not just a that we all have had the card did while playing this game, but we have had 2+ 3090s each, die while playing halo MCC. No it’s not just Halo as it happened to someone playing LoL, but this is definitely an EVGA problem, cause I think I saw someone say the same thing happen to their 3080.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/11 08:58:43 (permalink)
Just wanted to add to this and say that I experienced a loud pop followed by only a red light showing on my FTW 3090 Ultra while playing Halo MCC today. Was working fine for hours while playing multiplayer then switched to campaign and it killed it. Don't know if the switch to campaign would really matter but weird that it worked so long in multiplayer until the switch. Either way the fact that there is still no word as far as I know from EVGA is ridiculous. Hopefully getting my RMA soon.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 00:24:35 (permalink)
100% there is something that MCC does that causes EVGA cards to fail.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 04:53:53 (permalink)
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I had the exact same experience as OP. MCC (Halo 4) killed my card (3090 ftw3 ultra). On the first crash it was able to boot, then around a month later the second crash bricked it. It now only displays a single red lead on boot. RMA'd it and using a spare 1080 in the same slot in the meantime. 

Not sure how this could happen, but it cant be a coincidence that MCC is bricking so many 30 series cards. 

Was running a 750w PSU, a couple years old. Maybe MCC has some legacy code that causes high power spikes and subsequently causing a PSU failure.


In BOLD what ACTUALLY fried your card... Come on guys 3090 comes with a minimum recommended 850W and you slap it on a pc with a used 750W which is probably not even gold standard and has a 2 year degradation that can even be minus 100W in some cases. So technically you put a 3090 on an 650W and blame the game...

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 04:59:55 (permalink)
Devil's advocate: Please explain how under-powering a GPU should cause it to fry.

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 05:43:04 (permalink)
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Devil's advocate: Please explain how under-powering a GPU should cause it to fry.


Damage to VRMs to name one. But hey feel free to explain how a game can fry a GPU in the same sense. Underpowering is NOT undervolting.

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 05:54:09 (permalink)
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Damage to VRMs to name one.

Interesting.  I would like to hear this explanation.  How does too little power damage VRMs?  Wouldn't the PSU turn off from undervoltage protection?  Wouldn't the power shutting off to the VRMs cause them no harm?  Just so you know, the VRM power stages are rated to operate down to 2.5 volts.  Your whole computer will turn off WAY before dipping that low.
 
When you click the shutdown button, do you expect the computer to burn up?  When you click the shutdown button, if your computer burns up, do you blame the shutdown button, or do you blame the computer's inability to turn off safely?
 
Additionally, if the computer burns up most often when playing games with the lowest load, how does that translate into a power issue?  If it were an issue of too little power, wouldn't you expect the computer to burn up most often with a high load, rather than burning up most often with a low load?
 
To be fair, I completely agree that you shouldn't buy an expensive video card and use it with an inadequate power supply.  But to say that is the reason the video card burned up?  I think you need evidence.  There are many similar video cards which have burned up in a similar way when using an adequate power supply.  Perhaps you should take that into consideration before making a statement without evidence.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 06:58:01 (permalink)
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 Perhaps you should take that into consideration before making a statement without evidence.



Wow I am impressed at the length of your attack just to discredit me. Let me break it down into pieces you can fathom then:
1. If you ask me for evidence you should also ask for evidence HALO broke the GPU
2. If you agree that we shouldn't use used low end PSUs with a 3090 then you should also agree that said PSU is PRIME SUSPECT
3. If you are so bothered by my opinion so as to ask for evidence, why don't you do it against those who make the cards?
 
I am not an EVGA engineer I am an EVGA customer who suffered his share of issues with his previous GPU. My opinion is as valid as the next. Take it or leave it but honestly if you have a complaint/rant/chip you are banging on the wrong door.

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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 07:15:07 (permalink)
There are threads around the place with people have more than the recommended PSU Watts and they have still had RTX 380/3090 go tits up.
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Re: Major Issues with 3090 - Crash, followed by no video output from GPU 2021/04/12 07:27:48 (permalink)
Really?! I thought my 1200w Platinum PSU would be enough for a game like Halo. Yet it still fried my card.
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