At spot 50, you are getting closer.  I think when we look at the historical releases we get our hopes up too much.  I was looking at it too as I asked Enewt to add the information back to include those who got cards and when so we could atleast see when and how many cards were released.  I think people were looking to much at the time gaps between the reports and saw it was usually about 3 weeks.  But the initial release was the week before with straggler drops that continued into the following week. I think they try to release cards every 4 weeks or so, but historical data is limited on this card since it was released late so the information could be skewed as well.  In addition, with the hydro copper card still being developed, the question will be how does that impact the release numbers of the hybrid kits?  I can't see EVGA using a different PCB for both the hybrid and hydro copper version so it may impact the release numbers for both unless EVGA directs more stock to these skus.  
 
We don't know for sure how many cards were released as EVGA doesn't share that info and the queue is voluntary for those who wish to share.  For all we know they might have released a couple hundred cards, but only 30-40 people self reported.  While we are getting near the half life of the current cards, it's still worth while imo to wait in line since any release of new hardware will force another wait and see approach again.  If you have been in the queue all this time already, atleast you are moving up the list so the time is not entirely wasted.  I go on the new egg shuffle just about every time they have one, and all I keep getting is no.  I watch for emails that never come letting me know that I was selected.  So in our case, atleast we are making progress to the end goal though not as fast as many would want.  
 
It's hard to say what the 40 series is going to hold or how much that is going to cost.  But I do feel that with the 3090 series of cards it should provide enough headroom for most users to allow continued use into the next generation of games/cards unless you game at 4k or your work requires the highest performing graphics cards.  With everything going on it is hard to guess where the market is going.  But as a gamer who intends to stay at 1440p, I think the 3090 should be good for more than a couple of years with the specs and power it already delivers which is why I'm still standing in line for this.  When my spot comes up, you can laugh at me if you want but I'm going for the 10 year warranty cause I'm going to keep mines for a while.  I'm going to get everything I can out of it and for as long as I can as well.  
 
 

Toieo
Meh.. at what point does buying this stop making sense as a daily driver? 4000 series cards are gonna be right around the corner by the time most people get this card and at $2500 bucks, buying halfway through it's life cycle seems... way less compelling..
 
I'm really torn on this.
 
After waiting 3 months already and STILL being more than 50 cards out AND an imminent price hike in two weeks... bitter to say the least.
 
Defend EVGA all you want, tell me to go away, i get it.. tell me to shop elsewhere yeah yeah... I'm just saying what most are thinking and if not yet, after you wait 6 more months and still no hope, you'll feel just like i do
 
EDIT:
 
For the record, I'm not upset by the queue system, EVGA, or any of that. EVGA has always been good to me, been loyal for more than 15 years. The complaint is that by the time we actually get it in our hands, it's last year tech at the highest price ever. THAT is garbage and my source of frustration.

20 chips a MONTH?! Less than 1 friggin chip a day?? Ridiculous..

Alx1021
 Yeah if it takes that long I feel like I might just wait for 40 series or just try and get the FE/FTW3 Ultra from Newegg or from bot infested Bestbuy or something.

No offense but you’re offering bad advice. You’re claiming we will see a 4xxx release in the fall. What proof do you have of this first of all? You realize we haven’t seen a 3080ti teased yet, right? 


April/May is typically the point that Nvidia teases a 3080ti which is what this individual should be potentially looking into.


There is no news that Nvidia will be releasing a 4xxx series of cards in October. There’s not even any news that they’re working in the architecture. I think you’re spreading wrong information here. By all means prove me wrong. I just don’t think we will see a “next” generation given the silicon shortages and issues. 


The worlds manufacturing has been shut down for a year and most of it is still shut down. This includes semiconductors.
 
edit: I just want to say I think it’s more likely in November you see a 3080ti and 3070ti and 3060ti etc and SUPER versions of these cards. 
 
it’s harder and harder to design architecture and this is really the most solid architecture nvidia has released since Pascal and they used pascal for a few years. I don’t anticipate them having a brand spanking new architecture for release a year after releasing another one during a pandemic.
 
Stay the course people. It could be that some people stand to gain off of some of you LEAVING the queue. The 3090 kingpin is a solid card that you’ll be featuring in your system for a long while. It’s a beast of a card. Unless you upgrade each and every time there’s absolutely no reason to miss out on this. It’s going to run Crysis at Max settings for 4k with raytracing for years to come.

DeludedRaven

Toieo
Meh.. at what point does buying this stop making sense as a daily driver? 4000 series cards are gonna be right around the corner by the time most people get this card and at $2500 bucks, buying halfway through it's life cycle seems... way less compelling..
 
I'm really torn on this.
 
After waiting 3 months already and STILL being more than 50 cards out AND an imminent price hike in two weeks... bitter to say the least.
 
Defend EVGA all you want, tell me to go away, i get it.. tell me to shop elsewhere yeah yeah... I'm just saying what most are thinking and if not yet, after you wait 6 more months and still no hope, you'll feel just like i do
 
EDIT:
 
For the record, I'm not upset by the queue system, EVGA, or any of that. EVGA has always been good to me, been loyal for more than 15 years. The complaint is that by the time we actually get it in our hands, it's last year tech at the highest price ever. THAT is garbage and my source of frustration.

20 chips a MONTH?! Less than 1 friggin chip a day?? Ridiculous..

Alx1021
 Yeah if it takes that long I feel like I might just wait for 40 series or just try and get the FE/FTW3 Ultra from Newegg or from bot infested Bestbuy or something.

No offense but you’re offering bad advice. You’re claiming we will see a 4xxx release in the fall. What proof do you have of this first of all? You realize we haven’t seen a 3080ti teased yet, right? 


April/May is typically the point that Nvidia teases a 3080ti which is what this individual should be potentially looking into.


There is no news that Nvidia will be releasing a 4xxx series of cards in October. There’s not even any news that they’re working in the architecture. I think you’re spreading wrong information here. By all means prove me wrong. I just don’t think we will see a “next” generation given the silicon shortages and issues. 


The worlds manufacturing has been shut down for a year and most of it is still shut down. This includes semiconductors.
 
edit: I just want to say I think it’s more likely in November you see a 3080ti and 3070ti and 3060ti etc and SUPER versions of these cards. 
 
it’s harder and harder to design architecture and this is really the most solid architecture nvidia has released since Pascal and they used pascal for a few years. I don’t anticipate them having a brand spanking new architecture for release a year after releasing another one during a pandemic.

You misread what I said. Thoroughly.
 
I said, to clarify, come September, we'll be halfway through this cards cycle. Which on average is 2 years.
 
So spending 2500 bucks on year old tech when a new release is a year away (Oct 2022) is a really hard justification when you can save the 2500 bucks and put it to a 4000 series card and make due with a lesser card until then.
 
2500 bucks day one buys you 2 years. 2500 bucks at year one buys you 1 year. That's a piss poor return and hard to justify. That's it. All I said

DeludedRaven
 
Again. The best advice you can give is stay the course. It looks like it’s a 3 month average between queue and turn around.
 
edit 2: I used hopper because I really think Lovelace is a stop gap between architectures much like Turing was between Pascal and Ampere.

It's more like 4 months now instead of 3.

I’m 8 spots away and stressing about the hydro copper block. I haven’t seen or heard anything about if we can buy that separately for our aio kingpins?
Crazy it’s already April!

Alx1021

EvgaUser2711201
I’m 8 spots away and stressing about the hydro copper block. I haven’t seen or heard anything about if we can buy that separately for our aio kingpins?
Crazy it’s already April!

Nice lemme know how it is when you get it in a couple weeks! I'm 150 spots away lol

I was around 150 on the self reported list when I registered for the auto notifies on December 21.  I hoping that there will be a sizeable drop next week.

I don't have one yet, but he LN2 bios was supposed to be the slot for Liquid Nitrogen.  There are a few people on the forum that have threads about making their own custom loops and I'm sure if you asked them there they could share if they are using the LN2 bios.  
 
One thing that I do know is that when my name is called for the kingpin, i'm dumping the stock fans on the rad as a few people said they are trash.  High pressure fans are instrumental in lowering the temps of the rad which impact overall temps so if you can I would buy some high pressure fans to replace them when you get yours.  
 
When you get as close as those other posters, then I'd watch the queues, forums, and check your notifies more consistently to make sure you respond to the email when it comes.  Other than that, enjoy what you got and life in general.  

I don't have the Kingpin yet, but I am a strong believer of push/pull when possible.  The gains are small, but if you have the fans then it can't hurt or if you have the budget then I say go for it.  The corsair fans you have aren't the greatest as far as pressure, but having them being helped by the stock fans pushing should maximize their performance in cooling the rad.  I would run it since you got them, and then assess if you need to think about buying different fans. I would run the side rad as intake, though for the GPU I would prefer to mount that up top if possible.  There might not be much of a performance gain by doing so depending on the amount of air flow going in and out of the case to prevent heat soak, but I would prefer that configuration when possible. This is a preference to me, I'm not a professional but have built more than a few machines for myself and others.  I haven't measured the differences for internal temps but I stand behind my reasoning.  Like I said, the performance gains would be small if any as long as you are able to remove enough air from the case in a timely manner.  It becomes more of a factor if your pc is in a warm area and you don't have enough air flow going in and out of the case in a manner which would help remove heat from the case.  
 
I bought some Corsair ML non-rgb fans I used on an earlier build that I have laying around.  I thought I had wasted my money on them since I wasn't planning on using them, but now that I'm going water cooled and needed additional high pressure units that can push through the thicker rads they are going to come in handy.  When I got them from amazon they were around 40 bucks for two fans.  Now since I'm planning on using them in push for the side rad on my O11XL build, they are looking like it was a good buy.  

Alx1021
The radiator would in fact be on top. The LL 120 Fans will be taking air in from the case and the stock fans will be taking in fresh air. I don't care about noise since the Intel Cryo cooler I use always runs at max RPM no matter what and I run all my fans at max RPM anyways so I'll probably run the KPE fans at max RPM too.

The Corsair LL series fans have very low static pressure. It’s only good for case fans. You should consider of getting fans with high flow, but most importantly, high static pressure because of the pressure drop that will occur across the radiator. The LL fans will not make any difference in a push/pull configuration.

Alx1021

mech9t5

Alx1021
The radiator would in fact be on top. The LL 120 Fans will be taking air in from the case and the stock fans will be taking in fresh air. I don't care about noise since the Intel Cryo cooler I use always runs at max RPM no matter what and I run all my fans at max RPM anyways so I'll probably run the KPE fans at max RPM too.

The Corsair LL series fans have very low static pressure. It’s only good for case fans. You should consider of getting fans with high flow, but most importantly, high static pressure because of the pressure drop that will occur across the radiator. The LL fans will not make any difference in a push/pull configuration.

Understandable but I'm also doing it so it doesn't ruin the looks of the PC RGB so I still don't mind that much.
Also what is the max RPM of the stock 3090 KPE rad fans?

I don’t know the max RPM of the stock fans. If you don’t want to ruin the look, you may want to consider this. It’s RGB, high flow and high static pressure. However, it’s rather expensive. I bought a set for when I get the KPE to replace the stock fans.

https://www.performance-p...-rgb-500-2200-rpm.html

Alx1021
When you plug in other fans to the KPE, can you still control them via Precision X1 or Afterburner or do you have to use like iCue or something?
Also mech9t5 those fans look kinda nice. Considering those but still don't want to waste LL120s since well they are $40 each.

I have 8 Ek 2200 rpm Varadero and Drgb fans running off the card directly with no issues other than some of them stop at like 15 or 25% which is just the difference in the fan manufacturing i think. They work great only have 3 on pull on the rad. I have also used noctua 3000 rpm fans and the Ek furious varidor also 3000 rpm i think that also work great Used them on my 1080 ti's and 2080ti's in push pull and just push or just pull with no problems also. Same fans i can only get 4 to 6 to work on the commander pro or on the mobo before i loose control and they cycle up and down in rpm....On the 3090 KPE fan header the one that runs to the stock rad fans it took all 8 fans like a champ! Its a rats nest of wiring though! 

I have 3 Noctua F12 Chromax fans on the KPE RAD and the stocks on the outside pushing air up from the F12's. They decreased my temps pretty decently. Seems those and the EK Vardars are the way for this RAD. Dabager also put heatsinks on the back plate over heated areas like on the Memory etc.... That will also decrease temps. So be prepared

Well as you can see under my specs, i have trash cable management anyways. I might do the 6 fans all exhaust (LL120 visible side and stock on outside). Having all 6 being push is fine right?

Okay. Couldn’t i just flip them so then they all push out of the case. If all 6 were blowing in the same direction wouldn’t it just be pretty much the same or make the air go through the rad faster?

It's for the kingpin right? @manhed