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Does anybody know how long it takes them to update so I can have a valid result?
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/23 19:18:06
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344.75 should give you a valid result without having to wait for 347.09 WHQL to be updated on 3dmark.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/23 19:23:48
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/23 19:41:33
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It usually takes about 48 hours. I do NOT suggest 344.75, as it caused havoc on my system with SLI and Benchmarks. The Beta 347 works perfect, and hopefully the 347whql will be good as well. Also, Use Extreme or Ultra. They are meant for 1440p and 4k rather than just 1080p. That is where your cards will shine.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/24 18:32:56
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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3299566
Nice scores. This is what I could manage on air.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/24 18:37:33
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Are these results with the "old" part number or with the "new" part number (3988) for your Classifieds?
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/24 18:41:35
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255killer Old part numbers.
I can't get valid results due to the new part number I'm assuming.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/24 18:48:12
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I'm running 344.75 and having good luck. I also get better results with gpu tweak.
I would imagine 3d Mark will update soon.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/24 19:12:16
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Viking396 Does anybody know how long it takes them to update so I can have a valid result?
Futuremark used to take forever to update new drivers, but now it seems they work pretty quickly to get them approved. Probably less than a week. Regardless, most people know that your result is valid; it's just waiting for Futuremark to approve of the new driver.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/25 15:42:41
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/25 17:10:01
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jeppouza Expected more from the Classified version... My 980s reference version, running 24/7: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3293043
You're running 3 cards versus the OP's two. The OP also has his cards running at stock core clock.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/26 02:24:47
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jeppouza Expected more from the Classified version... My 980s reference version, running 24/7: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3293043
You're running 3 cards versus the OP's two. The OP also has his cards running at stock core clock.
I know man. With 2x980 I score about the same with less clock....nothing new.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:22:06
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i'm sorry i'm calling bull on that. if you were getting 27k score with only two 980's you'd be in the top 10 hall of fame for dual gpu firestrike scores. The number 11 slot is 26,953 with the number 10 being 27,142. Getting the same score you listed with two 980's would put you in 8th place just shy of beating 7th too. And i guarantee you, at least 8 or 9 of the top 10 are doing liquid nitrogen cooling or other such extreme methods.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:28:33
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On a side note, i'm kind of concerned that the 980 hydro copper is scoring so much lower than the classified with neither of them OC'ed at all or very much. Especially considering the hydro copper is factory boosted to the same 1,393mhz that the 3988 classified's are. The only difference is the dual 8 pin pci on the classy and the extra LN2/oc bios but as those results are at relatively tame 1.3 - 1.4ghz clock speeds it wouldn't matter in that case. So i begin to wonder how the classy is doing so much better at stock speeds? I think one guy posted his air cooled score that was still higher than the water cooled HC score bcav got... This makes my decision of whether to get a hydro 980, get a 980 classified and hope EK releases the classy block soon, or get a 980 superclocked and buy the hydro copper block seperately, a much tougher choice. Since if the 980 HC is doing that poorly then i might as well get a superclock and slap a block on it for lower cost. Or for more performance it may be better to go classy with EK block....*can't decide!!!*
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:36:48
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DarkIdeals On a side note, i'm kind of concerned that the 980 hydro copper is scoring so much lower than the classified with neither of them OC'ed at all or very much. Especially considering the hydro copper is factory boosted to the same 1,393mhz that the 3988 classified's are. The only difference is the dual 8 pin pci on the classy and the extra LN2/oc bios but as those results are at relatively tame 1.3 - 1.4ghz clock speeds it wouldn't matter in that case. So i begin to wonder how the classy is doing so much better at stock speeds? I think one guy posted his air cooled score that was still higher than the water cooled HC score bcav got... This makes my decision of whether to get a hydro 980, get a 980 classified and hope EK releases the classy block soon, or get a 980 superclocked and buy the hydro copper block seperately, a much tougher choice. Since if the 980 HC is doing that poorly then i might as well get a superclock and slap a block on it for lower cost. Or for more performance it may be better to go classy with EK block....*can't decide!!!*
The Classy has an upgraded VRM section as well and the entire pcb is wider to accommodate said VRM section. The bios is also much different meaning the cards my be able to boost much higher without a hard push like the hydrocopper would take. Ek has already stated minor delays for the Classy block, but mid January is the expected date so far.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:37:43
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DarkIdeals i'm sorry i'm calling bull on that. if you were getting 27k score with only two 980's you'd be in the top 10 hall of fame for dual gpu firestrike scores. The number 11 slot is 26,953 with the number 10 being 27,142. Getting the same score you listed with two 980's would put you in 8th place just shy of beating 7th too. And i guarantee you, at least 8 or 9 of the top 10 are doing liquid nitrogen cooling or other such extreme methods.
LOL, I don't care about silly liquid nitrogen, since they run the benchs once and game over LOL; I don't care about extreme high scores too, I use them just to give an idea of system performance, not to be TOP PERFORMER of the world as you are saying....that's too silly. What I care is 24/7 performance, stability and GPUs temperatures (I mine 24/7 and my temps are bellow 55ºC with 3x980 and a 240mm radiator with ambient temps at 30ºC, yes this is victory Sir), and for what I have seen EVGA classified is not best 980GTX card, a Galax HOF 980 beats in design and everything else. That's all.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:38:41
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Well not sure if it matters with your decision, but these are the ASIC scores for my 980 Classifieds. I have no clue what the scores are on the Hydro coppers. THESE ARE THE NEW PART NUMBER CLASSIFIEDS BTW (04G-P4-3988-KR)
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:44:12
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EK block on my reference 980s. sube
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 09:50:11
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howdy2u2 Well not sure if it matters with your decision, but these are the ASIC scores for my 980 Classifieds. I have no clue what the scores are on the Hydro coppers.
Do you see what I have told you? I just can't see nothing special in the Classifieds, I just see the Galax HOF as the winner here. My 980s reference w/ gaming OC: subir gif
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 10:01:13
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Galax is trying to prove themselves. They have made two great HOF cards so far. I don't see too many people using the HOF on LN2.
Above, it was said that with LN2, they are one and done. Wrong. If the person doesn't take the time to research and it is their first time using it, then yes, they will kill a card. If they do it right, the card is fine, since the classified is built with extreme cooling in mind.
The matrix is supposedly a great card as well. All three are built for extreme cooling. All three are meant for ln2. I see one of the ruling the leader boards of ln2.
Since it was a big thing with the Ti Classified where normal non overclocker spent the extra money to buy an extreme cooling prepped card with no intention of using that, and the same is happening with the 980, and every other piece of hardware, your basic 980 can achieve the same clocks as a 980 Classified, if it is a good core. Spending the extra money on the classified is the easier way for extreme overclocker to avoid cutting the VRM section off of a better card and mounting it to a regular card. The people that unknowingly spend the money on the classified prove that, as I purchased my Classified with no intention of using LN2, because they are simply concerned with the stock overclock and what a stock benchmark comes back.
Notice that the extreme overclocker love the classified line, the HOF line, and some even like the matrix. Also notice, they aren't gaming with them as often as they are benchmarking them.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 10:07:36
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Mine are factory clocks, no water yet (obviously) time will tell to see how far I can push them. I haven't even tried on air to OC them, at this point I find no need to since they have no issues with any game I throw at them. Temps are good, FPS is great, benchmarks are good all stock. Maybe I'm lucky bit of all the Classified cards I have had.....no RMA's what so ever. Maybe I pay a premium for having Classifieds but they are worth it to me if I never have an issue. EDIT: I am one of those who Scarlet mentions, I have no intention of going ln2. I will OC eventually on water and push for the most stable clocks for overall use. Bench them here and there, but for the most part.....................durability...........If they are selling these to people who do extreme OC benchmarking and they survive..... I won't even come close to breaking them!!!
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 10:20:25
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What a regular 980 looks like without a cooler: Meant for gaming... Next, buy this: and this What a 980 almost classified looks like when an extreme overclocker wants a classifed: (this is why the 980 Classified was created.......not so games could be better. If you are concerned with games, get the hydrocopper.) The Manufacturer realizes what Overclockers want and blend those two aup there ^ into this: Now, would you be willing, if a company didn't upgrade the VRM section for you, to tear apart your own GPU and make it better so it can support a few more mhz, essentially not making your games any better because you aren't able to use any stock cooling ever again? No. The classified is meant for Extreme Overclocking. the Hydrocopper is meant for easy cooling with fantastic performance, but still acks the extreme overclocking parts. The HOF has the upgraded VRM section as well as the Matrix. Both are meant for overclocking records, not video games. *adding to this. This is meant to be informational, not to attack anyone. I bought my Classies with no intention of overclocking.. then I figured out just how far I can push them and I haven't been able to stop as of yet. Overclocking is addicting. I plan to Get LN2 pots and try DICE at least.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 12:00:43
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DarkIdeals On a side note, i'm kind of concerned that the 980 hydro copper is scoring so much lower than the classified with neither of them OC'ed at all or very much. Especially considering the hydro copper is factory boosted to the same 1,393mhz that the 3988 classified's are. The only difference is the dual 8 pin pci on the classy and the extra LN2/oc bios but as those results are at relatively tame 1.3 - 1.4ghz clock speeds it wouldn't matter in that case. So i begin to wonder how the classy is doing so much better at stock speeds? I think one guy posted his air cooled score that was still higher than the water cooled HC score bcav got... This makes my decision of whether to get a hydro 980, get a 980 classified and hope EK releases the classy block soon, or get a 980 superclocked and buy the hydro copper block seperately, a much tougher choice. Since if the 980 HC is doing that poorly then i might as well get a superclock and slap a block on it for lower cost. Or for more performance it may be better to go classy with EK block....*can't decide!!!*
I believe the other scores would improve using msi afterburner or gpu tweak. On air my best results came from gpu tweak. Precision x was updated recently so I may give it another go.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 19:50:24
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DarkIdeals i'm sorry i'm calling bull on that. if you were getting 27k score with only two 980's you'd be in the top 10 hall of fame for dual gpu firestrike scores. The number 11 slot is 26,953 with the number 10 being 27,142. Getting the same score you listed with two 980's would put you in 8th place just shy of beating 7th too. And i guarantee you, at least 8 or 9 of the top 10 are doing liquid nitrogen cooling or other such extreme methods.
LOL, I don't care about silly liquid nitrogen, since they run the benchs once and game over LOL; I don't care about extreme high scores too, I use them just to give an idea of system performance, not to be TOP PERFORMER of the world as you are saying....that's too silly. What I care is 24/7 performance, stability and GPUs temperatures (I mine 24/7 and my temps are bellow 55ºC with 3x980 and a 240mm radiator with ambient temps at 30ºC, yes this is victory Sir), and for what I have seen EVGA classified is not best 980GTX card, a Galax HOF 980 beats in design and everything else. That's all.
uhh....if you don't care about LN2 or any extreme OC'ing,etc.. then there's no way you would be getting a 27,000+ score on firestrike with only two 980's. THAT is what i'm saying, not sure what the heck you're talking about acting like i'm saying you're trying to break records and stuff. I'm just replying to you saying you got scores equal to what people are getting with three highly overclocked watercooled 980's (27,000) and that you're saying you achieving these scores with only two 980's. And i simply pointed out that if you had gotten a score like that, we would all see it in the 8th hall of fame slot because even the 11th slot is 26.9k score. Unless you meant something different when you said in reply to someone posting that OP used 3 cards vs your 2 that you "scored about the same" with two of them.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 20:03:49
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howdy2u2 Well not sure if it matters with your decision, but these are the ASIC scores for my 980 Classifieds. I have no clue what the scores are on the Hydro coppers.
THESE ARE THE NEW PART NUMBER CLASSIFIEDS BTW (04G-P4-3988-KR)
Well technically, wouldn't the higher ASIC on those classy's mean that they would perform better under water? So part of the reason you're unimpressed may be that you're still using them on air cooling which is supposed to be worse with a high ASIC card. And overall my decision of which card to get doesn't have alot to do with benchmarking. Mostly i want something that will perform as good as possible gaming-wise and also look good in my build with the 900d and water loop i'm gonna set up. Price is also a slight consideration, which is why i'm thinking of selling my 970 3570K rig to help pay for a 980 since it would probably break my budget to pay for a 2nd 970 along with waterblocks and backplates for both of them since my system wouldn't be worth as much without the 970, and thus harder to sell.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/27 20:22:08
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DarkIdeals Well technically, wouldn't the higher ASIC on those classy's mean that they would perform better under water? So part of the reason you're unimpressed may be that you're still using them on air cooling which is supposed to be worse with a high ASIC card. And overall my decision of which card to get doesn't have alot to do with benchmarking. Mostly i want something that will perform as good as possible gaming-wise and also look good in my build with the 900d and water loop i'm gonna set up. Price is also a slight consideration, which is why i'm thinking of selling my 970 3570K rig to help pay for a 980 since it would probably break my budget to pay for a 2nd 970 along with waterblocks and backplates for both of them since my system wouldn't be worth as much without the 970, and thus harder to sell.
Higher ASIC is better for Air and Lower is supposedly better for Water and and extreme cooling. Even with a high asic, water will definitely help keep them cooler, but it may not help with overclocking all that much. Usually (not in the case of the 900's) water helps give more headroom due to cooler temperatures when the cards hit the thermal limits. The hydrocopper will honestly be your best bet. It comes with the cooler attached, and it is more pointed toward gaming compared to all of the excess heat generating components for overclocking. Also, they are both great cards. weigh in mind if you want to spend the extra money to buy a waterblock separate if you are going to watercool, because after cost and not wanting to benchmark, you are looking at spending an $50-$75 (approximately) to get the waterblock, not to mention the extra waiting period, as they are going to sell out very fast when they come into stock.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/28 03:04:45
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DarkIdeals Well technically, wouldn't the higher ASIC on those classy's mean that they would perform better under water? So part of the reason you're unimpressed may be that you're still using them on air cooling which is supposed to be worse with a high ASIC card. And overall my decision of which card to get doesn't have alot to do with benchmarking. Mostly i want something that will perform as good as possible gaming-wise and also look good in my build with the 900d and water loop i'm gonna set up. Price is also a slight consideration, which is why i'm thinking of selling my 970 3570K rig to help pay for a 980 since it would probably break my budget to pay for a 2nd 970 along with waterblocks and backplates for both of them since my system wouldn't be worth as much without the 970, and thus harder to sell.
Higher ASIC is better for Air and Lower is supposedly better for Water and and extreme cooling. Even with a high asic, water will definitely help keep them cooler, but it may not help with overclocking all that much. Usually (not in the case of the 900's) water helps give more headroom due to cooler temperatures when the cards hit the thermal limits. The hydrocopper will honestly be your best bet. It comes with the cooler attached, and it is more pointed toward gaming compared to all of the excess heat generating components for overclocking. Also, they are both great cards. weigh in mind if you want to spend the extra money to buy a waterblock separate if you are going to watercool, because after cost and not wanting to benchmark, you are looking at spending an $50-$75 (approximately) to get the waterblock, not to mention the extra waiting period, as they are going to sell out very fast when they come into stock.
Yeah, the hydro copper would actually be cheaper, $800 all together vs $700 for classified + 150 euros for a block and backplate according to EK site (~$200). The one thing i'm wondering about now though, is would it be better for me to buy the pre-built hydro copper for $800 or to get a superclocked 980 and put the hydro copper block on it myself. I was thinking it was cheaper, but now that i look at it, the hydro copper waterblock is $159 but doesn't mention whether it comes with a backplate or not. If not that's another $30 plus shipping for both, so even if i got a superclocked evga 980 with the 1,346mhz boost for ~$550 i would still be paying $200 for a block and backplate coming out to $750 so for $50 more i don't have to void my warranty or worry about possibly damaging the gpu since i've never installed a gpu block before. I just wish there was some benchmarks showing the gaming performance/fps of a single 980 hydro in games vs other 980's or 970 sli etc.. I'm also considering whether to stay with my Z97 Formula board w/ I7 4790K and DDR3 corsair plat ram or to bump up to a Rampage extreme X99 or maybe an asus x99 deluxe w/ I7 5820K and DDR4 corsair plat. seeing TimeChange01's rig that he got with two 980 hydro copper's in SLI with a rampage v board, 5930K cpu, and corsair plat in an 800d case makes me want to try a similar look lol. That would raise my cost a fair bit though, not sure if it'd be worth it or not. Extra $150 for RAM alone, then $175 more for the MoBo and $80 more for the CPU to go X99 rather than Z97. I would benefit from the 6 cores since i plan to do some streaming/editing/recording for twitch/youtube etc.. but i'm definitely straining my budget to hell already lol.
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
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I'm kind of tempted to go with an open box rampage extreme mobo, but not sure if it's worth risking not getting the cool OC panel and possibly manuals and I/O shield etc...
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Re: Just went SLI with 2 Classified GTX 980's
2014/12/28 20:27:48
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Here are my three GTX 980 HC Graphics Card info. For Reference Only
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2014/12/28 20:37:25
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