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2017/02/07 13:50:37 (permalink)
This diet makes you eliminate all sugar and carbs.

You basically only eat meats, fruits and vegetables.

No dairy, breads, pastas, beans, etc...

Ive done it before and lost 50 pounds. Im doing it again to lose my winter coat.

Im only on day 2 and am not feeling super hot.

Hahahha, IM ADDICTED TO SUGAR! Its seriously in everything

 
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 14:05:56 (permalink)
    Sounds like you have Keto Flu. Great diet, but it takes about a week to adjust to. 
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 15:19:06 (permalink)
    You can do it - (not sure if I could)
     
    Sounds like eat close to the plant and home cooking only
     
    I'm guessing no alcohol either as it is basically sugar and carbs
     
    Good luck, keep us posted
     

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 18:47:58 (permalink)
     
    I need to lessen the amount of salt I have.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 19:27:44 (permalink)
    I just had my first bout of diarrhea. This clense just got real lol

     
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 19:47:43 (permalink)
     
    Try drinking a whole bottle of prune juice.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 20:08:46 (permalink)
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    I just had my first bout of diarrhea. This clense just got real lol



    TMI  Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/07 21:28:24 (permalink)
    I do Whole Foods here, but still do a little daily, I do very little breads, pastas anyways, and might have one or two Coke-a-Colas every so offten, I hardly every buy anything processed/ready to eat. But still make chocolate pie once a week.
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/08 12:04:40 (permalink)
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    I just had my first bout of diarrhea. This clense just got real lol

    bruh
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 11:57:09 (permalink)
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    I just had my first bout of diarrhea. This clense just got real lol

    LOL, thanks for sharing...
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 12:05:14 (permalink)
    Personally I believe diets that go from an extreme to no sugar is not that good. Sugar intake in my opinion should be reduced gradually to allow the body time to adjust.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 12:22:38 (permalink)
    Good luck!
     



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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 12:53:40 (permalink)
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    Personally I believe diets that go from an extreme to no sugar is not that good. Sugar intake in my opinion should be reduced gradually to allow the body time to adjust.


    Actually eliminating excess sugar is something the body can adust to as fast as you can do it. Cutting out sugar from your diet has positive effects on your insulin levels and, liver, pancreas, mood within 24 hours.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 13:52:57 (permalink)
    wife is doing something similar.  Called Thin Healthy Mamma.  Allows for fatty foods, as long as there is no carbs to bond with... or something like that.
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 13:58:37 (permalink)
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    Personally I believe diets that go from an extreme to no sugar is not that good. Sugar intake in my opinion should be reduced gradually to allow the body time to adjust.




    They're not good at all. No-carb or keto diets have been proven to be unhealthy as you're lacking many nutrients that come from different foods. Because of this, you're forced to take an obscene amount of supplements.
     
    Dieting is actually really simple. It comes down to Calories in VS Calories out. Eat less than you burn per day = weight loss. Eat more than you burn = weight gain. Keto/no-carb diets should only be used if you're overweight to the point where it could cause/is causing health issues, not just for regular dieting sake.
     
    Calories in VS out was proven by a professor who's famous for the "twinkie diet": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/chewing-on-the-twinkie-di_b_782678.html
    He ate less than his BMR + exercise Calorie burning estimates and only ate twinkies (+ vegetables around his kids so they weren't poorly influenced). He lost almost 30 pounds in two months.
     
    If you're overweight like mentioned above, keto/no-carb are good for fast weightloss but should NOT be used for the long-term as they're unhealthy. For regular dieting, you should stay away from these fad diets and based on the statement (and fact) above regarding calories in vs calories out, look into what's known as "flexible dieting". A Calorie is a Calorie no matter where it comes from as protein, fat, and carbs are the same no matter what food they're in. As long as you eat LESS than what you burn per day, you WILL lose weight. Whether you eat those calories through foods such as cake/icecream, etc. or brown/white rice, chicken, steak, vegetables, etc. doesn't matter. The vitamins and minerals you get will be different obviously but the end result will be the same. You'll be way fuller and more satisfied with the latter though. Flexible dieting just allows you to eat what you want within a Calorie range and you will not be restricted like these fad diets. Bodybuilders use this, along with other techniques.
     
    Either way, I wish you luck with your endeavors, VegetaCreeper. Every day gets easier and make sure you take LOTS of progress pictures (like once/twice a week). These will not only provide you with motivation to keep going, but after seeing yourself week to week or Day 1 to Day 30 (a month), you'll be more inclined to continue your diet as the results you'll see will make you very happy.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 14:50:03 (permalink)
    Have to disagree about lots of sugar and refined carbs being OK. They're why we're now having a Type 2 diabetes epidemic. I ate lots of junk food until my late 50s and was fine but now that I have diabetes any sugar, refined carbs, alcohol (even starchy vegetables and whole grains to a lesser extent) will really spike my blood sugar. Having a hard time giving up all the junk food, going shopping and having to pass up all the junk carbs is really tough but dying of diabetes complications is not a fun way to go so I'm really working hard at improving my diet.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 15:13:36 (permalink)
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    This diet makes you eliminate all sugar and carbs.

    You basically only eat meats, fruits and vegetables.

    No dairy, breads, pastas, beans, etc...

    Ive done it before and lost 50 pounds. Im doing it again to lose my winter coat.

    Im only on day 2 and am not feeling super hot.

    Hahahha, IM ADDICTED TO SUGAR! Its seriously in everything



    BTW, there are carbs and sugar in vegetables and fruit but the fiber in most fruits and veggies makes the carbs low-glycemic (your body absorbs them slower so they don't spike your blood sugar). 

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 15:25:58 (permalink)
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    This diet makes you eliminate all sugar and carbs.

    You basically only eat meats, fruits and vegetables.

    No dairy, breads, pastas, beans, etc...

    Ive done it before and lost 50 pounds. Im doing it again to lose my winter coat.

    Im only on day 2 and am not feeling super hot.

    Hahahha, IM ADDICTED TO SUGAR! Its seriously in everything



    BTW, there are carbs and sugar in vegetables and fruit but the fiber in most fruits and veggies makes the carbs low-glycemic (your body absorbs them slower so they don't spike your blood sugar). 




    I meant *added sugar. 
     
    Basically if it doesn't come from the ground, or doesn't come from a mom (except milk), then I can't have it.

     
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 15:29:00 (permalink)
    I guess you must mean like processed carbs, and sugars, right?
     
    Because fruits and vegetables have sugars and carbs, and your body definitely does needs them too. You'd be depriving your body of it's main energy source if you cut them out, which would cause you to lose weight, but not in a healthy manner.
     
    I dislike these fad diets people do that actually deprive you of necessary nutrients. If you want a healthy diet, learn about proper nutrition, eat a balanced diet, and avoid processed foods and empty calories. You'll also need to get proper exercise, and learn more about your body (everybody is different after all).



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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 16:28:57 (permalink)
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    I guess you must mean like processed carbs, and sugars, right?
     
    Because fruits and vegetables have sugars and carbs, and your body definitely does needs them too. You'd be depriving your body of it's main energy source if you cut them out, which would cause you to lose weight, but not in a healthy manner.
     
    I dislike these fad diets people do that actually deprive you of necessary nutrients. If you want a healthy diet, learn about proper nutrition, eat a balanced diet, and avoid processed foods and empty calories. You'll also need to get proper exercise, and learn more about your body (everybody is different after all).




    This is what I eat in a day...
     
    2 banannas
    3-4 eggs
    heap of salad (and various veggies - cucumbers, carrots, tomatoes)
    Grapes, an Apple, orange
    Hashbrowns (not everyday)
    sausage or bacon
    chicken
    a couple of handful of almonds
    Larabars (for snacks)
     
    give or take, that is a normal day for me
     
     
    This is what I used to eat:
     
    2 sausage McMuffins
    Mcdonalds Hashbrown
    Subway Pizza - Pepperoni, onions, black olives (with chipotle dipping sauce)
    Apples, veggies during the day
    Quarter Pounder Deluxe (xtra onions)
    4 piece chicken nugget (or McChicken)
    Bowl of cereal
    Bowl of Soup
    any leftovers the family had from the day
     
    rinse, repeat
     
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/09 18:11:08 (permalink)
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    Have to disagree about lots of sugar and refined carbs being OK. They're why we're now having a Type 2 diabetes epidemic. I ate lots of junk food until my late 50s and was fine but now that I have diabetes any sugar, refined carbs, alcohol (even starchy vegetables and whole grains to a lesser extent) will really spike my blood sugar. Having a hard time giving up all the junk food, going shopping and having to pass up all the junk carbs is really tough but dying of diabetes complications is not a fun way to go so I'm really working hard at improving my diet.




    I wasn't saying it's okay to eat a lot of them. I was simply trying to say that it's way simpler to diet than people make it out to be. Eat less Calories than you burn, you lose weight. The foods you SHOULD eat should be those of a balanced diet but you will lose weight whether you eat those Calories in "bad" foods or "good" foods. There's no reason to be super restrictive like the mindset these fad diets create. Everything in moderation.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 05:27:16 (permalink)
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    I guess you must mean like processed carbs, and sugars, right?
     
    Because fruits and vegetables have sugars and carbs, and your body definitely does needs them too. You'd be depriving your body of it's main energy source if you cut them out, which would cause you to lose weight, but not in a healthy manner.
     
    I dislike these fad diets people do that actually deprive you of necessary nutrients. If you want a healthy diet, learn about proper nutrition, eat a balanced diet, and avoid processed foods and empty calories. You'll also need to get proper exercise, and learn more about your body (everybody is different after all).




    This is what I eat in a day...
     
    2 banannas
    3-4 eggs
    heap of salad (and various veggies - cucumbers, carrots, tomatoes)
    Grapes, an Apple, orange
    Hashbrowns (not everyday)
    sausage or bacon
    chicken
    a couple of handful of almonds
    Larabars (for snacks)
     
    give or take, that is a normal day for me
     
     
    This is what I used to eat:
     
    2 sausage McMuffins
    Mcdonalds Hashbrown
    Subway Pizza - Pepperoni, onions, black olives (with chipotle dipping sauce)
    Apples, veggies during the day
    Quarter Pounder Deluxe (xtra onions)
    4 piece chicken nugget (or McChicken)
    Bowl of cereal
    Bowl of Soup
    any leftovers the family had from the day
     
    rinse, repeat
     




    That's not bad, definitely a lot better than what you were eating. That being said, the starch in the hash browns and cholesterol in the eggs could be unhealthy, especially if you have too much. 3 to 4 is quite a bit, at least if you're eating the whole egg (eggwhites are supposed to be healthier than the yokes).
     
    I just find it odd that the diet has you completely cut out grains and dairy, as I don't think that's necessary for most people. Granted I've known people who don't process certain foods well, so they shouldn't eat these things.
     
    That being said, I'm no health expert and I'm not a nutritionist, so take it with a grain of salt.



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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 06:02:09 (permalink)
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    Have to disagree about lots of sugar and refined carbs being OK. They're why we're now having a Type 2 diabetes epidemic. I ate lots of junk food until my late 50s and was fine but now that I have diabetes any sugar, refined carbs, alcohol (even starchy vegetables and whole grains to a lesser extent) will really spike my blood sugar. Having a hard time giving up all the junk food, going shopping and having to pass up all the junk carbs is really tough but dying of diabetes complications is not a fun way to go so I'm really working hard at improving my diet.




    I wasn't saying it's okay to eat a lot of them. I was simply trying to say that it's way simpler to diet than people make it out to be. Eat less Calories than you burn, you lose weight. The foods you SHOULD eat should be those of a balanced diet but you will lose weight whether you eat those Calories in "bad" foods or "good" foods. There's no reason to be super restrictive like the mindset these fad diets create. Everything in moderation.


    +1.... ANYTHING in excess will kill you....period. My father got diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at age 61 and weighed 380 for many years and was put on insulin pills. Wasn't a drinker really, non smoker, no drugs and my mom did her own exchange type diet with him and he lost 160 pounds in about 6 months. She slowly dropped his sugar intake to nothing along with salt, but he could eat anything else he wanted but the portions were really controlled and he ate every 3 hours. Meat portions weren't bigger than his fist and she would over fill sandwiches or dinner plates with lots of veggies to make him think he got a lot to eat. The in between three hour snacks were very small, like 4 or 5 no sugar cookies etc... between regular meals. That first 6 months when he lost that weight he really stank from his body releasing all that sugar stored in his fats and the fats dissolving, so shower a lot man!!! A cancer diagnoses started all this for him but after about a year his dr was floored and took him off all his meds, so all he had to do was monitor his blood sugars to make sure he was ok and stayed fine. The lesson I learned from that was you def don't have to cut everything out of your life like all these fad diets want you to do. Everyone has different body types so I think its criminal for them to try and sell these one size fits all diet solutions out there cause they wont work. So don't beat yourself up just to lose weight cause making yourself miserable is just going to sabotage the effort. Figure out what works for you.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 15:32:10 (permalink)
    Good for you. Stick with it and you will feel great.

    Cutting added sugar from someone's diet shouldn't be considered a fad, it should be considered a sound dietary choice.

    The whole calorie is a colorie junk was started by the sugar producers based on zero science. North America is full of skinny fat people....as well as fat fat people. Too much added sugar in diets leads to fatty liver disease which leads to all sorts of metabolic diseases, diabetes being the big one. Sugar is added to food because it is cheap, and without it, processed foods would taste like ass.

    1000 calories from whole foods does not get processed by the body as 1000 calries from junkie sugar laden processed foods.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 16:07:29 (permalink)
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    Good for you. Stick with it and you will feel great.

    Cutting added sugar from someone's diet shouldn't be considered a fad, it should be considered a sound dietary choice.

    The whole calorie is a colorie junk was started by the sugar producers based on zero science. North America is full of skinny fat people....as well as fat fat people. Too much added sugar in diets leads to fatty liver disease which leads to all sorts of metabolic diseases, diabetes being the big one. Sugar is added to food because it is cheap, and without it, processed foods would taste like ass.

    1000 calories from whole foods does not get processed by the body as 1000 calries from junkie sugar laden processed foods.



     
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    Thanks!!! :D
     
    I'm already starting to feel better again.  I felt REALLY bad the first 3 days.  Now I'm almost done with day 5 and I'm starting to feel great!

     
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 17:32:38 (permalink)
    Dude your going to relapse after you get off this and most likely gain the weight back. Losing weight like that is unhealthy. Know this, just because you lose the weight like that does not mean you would become healthier overall. You just be a lighter unhealthier you.  Why not try going vegan? You will lose weight guaranteed! I can promise you that too. Just eliminate not all, but most unhealthy processed foods and ALL  animal products in your diet. In this day and age its not that hard to "transition" to going vegan. By the way if you do, your going to notice your food bill will become A LOT cheaper. That is unless you decided to become a junk food vegan eater. But anyways I want to point out that Gipothegip has the best advice on this thread in post 19 in which he took the liberty of really summing it up though.  Also dont listen to any of the idiots that say "anything thing in moderation is ok." That saying is so stupid because I guess anything bad, even though you know its bad, in moderation is ok to consume lol. Catch my drift? I dont feel like ranting about that. But I wish you the best of luck my man.


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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 17:53:11 (permalink)
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    Dude your going to relapse after you get off this and most likely gain the weight back. Losing weight like that is unhealthy. Know this, just because you lose the weight like that does not mean you would become healthier overall. You just be a lighter unhealthier you.  Why not try going vegan? You will lose weight guaranteed! I can promise you that too. Just eliminate not all, but most unhealthy processed foods and ALL  animal products in your diet. In this day and age its not that hard to "transition" to going vegan. By the way if you do, your going to notice your food bill will become A LOT cheaper. That is unless you decided to become a junk food vegan eater. But anyways I want to point out that Gipothegip has the best advice on this thread in post 19 in which he took the liberty of really summing it up though.  Also dont listen to any of the idiots that say "anything thing in moderation is ok." That saying is so stupid because I guess anything bad, even though you know its bad, in moderation is ok to consume lol. Catch my drift? I dont feel like ranting about that. But I wish you the best of luck my man.




    I am not going to totally relapse after this diet.  It's too much work.  After the diet ends, you slowly start bringing back in items (dairy, or wheat) slowly. 
     
    Because we consume so much sugar in our diets, our bodies get energy from carbs, sugar.  Our bodies are meant to be fueled by stored fat and protein.  This diet changes the physiology of your body to run more efficient - which makes you healthier.
     
    I will incorporate more items into my diet eventually, but I will do it on a very limited basis.  After this, I will only use small amounts of dairy and almost always try to avoid foods with added sugar.  It's not even considered a diet, its considered a life change.
     
    I have been eating leaps and bounds healthier than I was before.  I plan on continuing to eat healthy and exercise more.  Trust me, its a lot easier to get back into working out after you drop 20 lbs.
     
    Here is some info on Whole30 for those who are interested:
     
    http://whole30.com/whole30-program-rules/

     
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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 18:10:56 (permalink)
    I was waiting for vegan comments from Hazman lol.

    Whole 30 is a great idea and uses sound dietary principles. No need to cut out meat if you like it.

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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/10 19:12:27 (permalink)
    Well if you want some advice I can try to help you in losing weight. Not my first rodeo. I recently lost weight as you can see from my before and after shots down below.  In my before picture I was actually a lot heavier than that. My heaviest I have ever weighed in my life was 222 pounds. I lost a total of 77 pounds. That before pic was my first milestone of hitting under 200 pounds.  What was funny is when I was 222 pounds my physique did not look like a 222 pound person for a 5 foot 10 dude. I looked like I was 190 pounds. Its because I lifted a A LOT of weights and had a lot of muscle. Which if people don't know, muscle weighs more than fat.  I was the strongest that I have ever been in my life while hit a lot of personal records when it came to lifting heavy weights. Well I have to admit I did have a beer gut though. So when I was  222 pounds 26 years old 5 foot 10 dude, I had a size 36inch waist 16 inch neck with 19.7% body fat.
     
    For my age and height according to my BMI I was considered overweight but again my body fat % was not as high as most people would be at that weight and my height. Unlike most people I did not have a double chin at that height and weight LOL. Another thing too is you can be a fat skinny dude. What I mean is you can be a really light person such as my height and weight currently, but have a high body fat percentage and be considered "overweight." When it comes to body fat percentage charts, if you are 23% body fat your considered overweight but if your 26% and above your considered obese. Catch my drift. If you wondering whats the lowest body fat % you can go before having serious issues is 7%. Basically under 7% your knocking on deaths door especially if you are at 5% body fat. I dont recommend going under 10% body fat. But if you want, 9% body fat you can do to be Hollywood Ripped but thats pushing it. A notice of decrease in testosterone will happen even though your physique will look like you have some by being ripped. But cant forget that muscle is need to look ripped.
     
    As of this post I am 145.7 pounds with a size 29 waist 14.5 inch neck and 10.8% body fat for my measurements.  You may be wondering as to why I lost all that weight. Well its because I have a bad lower back. I have a fractured spinal cord. Got it from a skateboarding accident. Yeah well so basically lugging around that 222 pounds 24/7 was too much for my lower back. Also lifting heavy weights at the gym was making it worse as well. Luckily I was only 222 pounds for only 9 months of my life so its not like I was that heavy for years.
     
    This is my first milestone I hit going under 200 pounds.

     
     
    This is my after doing a vegan diet. Took me 7 months to reach this weight goal I desired for my back issue.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     


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    Re: I'm starting Whole 30 2017/02/12 02:38:16 (permalink)
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    I am not going to totally relapse after this diet.  It's too much work.  After the diet ends, you slowly start bringing back in items (dairy, or wheat) slowly. 
     
    Because we consume so much sugar in our diets, our bodies get energy from carbs, sugar.  Our bodies are meant to be fueled by stored fat and protein.  This diet changes the physiology of your body to run more efficient - which makes you healthier.
     
    I will incorporate more items into my diet eventually, but I will do it on a very limited basis.  After this, I will only use small amounts of dairy and almost always try to avoid foods with added sugar.  It's not even considered a diet, its considered a life change.
     
    I have been eating leaps and bounds healthier than I was before.  I plan on continuing to eat healthy and exercise more.  Trust me, its a lot easier to get back into working out after you drop 20 lbs.
     
    Here is some info on Whole30 for those who are interested:
     
    http://whole30.com/whole30-program-rules/



    kaninja
    I was waiting for vegan comments from Hazman lol.

    Whole 30 is a great idea and uses sound dietary principles. No need to cut out meat if you like it.


    Interesting, I read the link, but does this program ever explain why you shouldn't be eating grains, dairy, or legumes? From my understanding, as I said before, some people do have a health condition where they don't digest these foods well, but what about the average person? This would definitely work if you have issues with these foods, but I don't think everyone does.
     
    I'm rather skeptical here. What I read seems to be just telling you what to do and that you should do be doing it, but where's the evidence and why should I (or anyone) do it? I'm honestly curious about this.



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