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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/15 21:17:09 (permalink)
It seems to upclock when benchmarking and gaming so it's working but just locking at max power doesn't. As long as it jumps up I'll take it. Thanks for the guide!
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/15 21:22:03 (permalink)
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/16 15:43:35 (permalink)
whats the best overclock people have had thus far 
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/17 19:41:50 (permalink)
Hi everyone,
 
So I'm new to the PC building game. I just recently build a High End Gaming PC and recently tried to OC to see what my potential is using Time Spy Benchmark.
 
My setup:
Gigabyte Z490 Vision G MOBO
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MSI Afterburner settings:
Power Limit= 107
Temp Unit= 91c
Core Clock= +90mhz
Memory Clock= +1000mhz
Fan Speed= 90%
 
I played around with MSI Afterburner about 4x and each time raising everything up higher and higher to make sure I dont crash my computer.
 
The highest i was able to achieve was a score of 19532 on Time Spy Benchmark.
 
My computer was running normal no crash or anything. Is this a decent mark? Sustainable for long term gaming (2+hours)?

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 13:06:48 (permalink)
Sorry to both yall
 
im not sure whats wrong with my card, my white vertical and yellow line never align until I go all the way down to 717 mv :(
 
Using asus rog strix 2080 card.
 
Heres my settings:
 

 
Im missing smth? 
 
I did max voltage allowed by msi which from image above is 1250 mv and locked it there, my card instantly dipped to 1042 mv showing white line also at that voltage so I thought maybe that my max, so I went to 1042 and did -1 and then locked and then new white line came up at lower voltage > did same went to new voltage and -1 and locked and this kept happening till I reached 717 mv and both lines aligned. 
 

 
I knew that voltage is my ideal voltage so I started some haven benchmark and still same result, but in haven my yellow and white alligned at 712 mv.
 
Then I tried 3rd option again I started 1250 mv and locked saw my card only goes to 1042 mv and so i went to 1042 mv and locked BUT this time I didn't do -1 at that new voltage and actually my yellow and white lines alligned so im not sure.
 
Final 4th option I reset the curve > maxed my core voltage, power limit, fan speed at 75% and this time I locked at the max allowed voltage which now I know is 1042mv and actually my white line and yellow line aligned instantly at that voltage.
 

 
Is it safe to assume maybe my max voltage is 1042mv? If so i got 2 questions
 
1) Why the graph shows max voltage is 1043 but msi afterburner meter shows 1042? Kinda weird but ok
 
2) In this guide you start at max allowed voltage and you mention that when you lock it in you see a new white line at a new voltage so you go to new voltage > lower to -1 > lock in and keep repeating till both lines align BUT for me knowing my max voltage is 1042 mv cos my card doesn't take any voltage above it, when I lock that voltage in, the white line and yellow line align as I show in image above, is that normal and safe to say my max voltage is 1042 mv?
 
Also note that any other voltage under 1042 mv will instantly align both lines, but any voltage above it will show me different yellow and white line and when I end up chasing the white line and lowering by -1 the only voltage that they both allign using this method is again 717 mv.
 
Sorry for long post and sorry if im dumb haha
 
Also I noticed if I lock at 1043 mv and start superpoisiton it dips to 1025 mv
 
Same if I start off at 1025 mv and benchmark it dips to 1012 mv
 
I just wanna know max acceptable voltage so I can start overclock my clocks
post edited by GangsterFresh - 2020/12/19 13:23:13
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 14:20:31 (permalink)
Yep, looks like that is your max voltage. The reason your voltage is dropping is because your temps are too high.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 14:24:24 (permalink)
Thank you for reply!
 
So now that I know 1043 mv is my max, I can go ahead and start getting to overclocking at that voltage?
 
Cos as you said im hitting temp issues so its dropping that voltage so I wasnt sure if I should go to new voltage and adjust clocks or stay at same voltage, but it looks like stay at same voltage.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 14:26:50 (permalink)
You could try lower voltage.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 14:32:52 (permalink)
Yeah I can do that too, but when I go to new low voltage it drops even lower, should I keep dropping lower and lower till it stops dropping voltage or just keep max voltage 1043 what you personally recommend?
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/19 14:34:12 (permalink)
In that case just keep max.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/21 12:34:10 (permalink)
Sorry to bother you, last question.
 
How do know if an overclock is stable? Usually what am doin is that once I found my voltage I start to crank up the core clock by +15 mhz increments and then run a benchmark, if it passes benchmark without voltage dropping and without core clock dropping significantly (usually it drops a few mhz but nothing crazy) then this gives me greenlight to go another +15 and so forth.
 
But then I start to notice my score is not changing or its slightly going down, again it doesn't go down crazy like 3704 goes to 3655 in superposition, so does that mean my overclock is becoming unstable even though it held the core clock, voltage and temp was all good and that I should start dialing it down or is it okay to keep going up as long as benchmark doesn't crash?
 
Finally, lets say I find my absolute max core voltage, how can I 100% be sure it wont crash in games? I was thinking of doing another 1 hr 8k superposition and see if it doesn't crash, what you think?
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/21 12:42:50 (permalink)
Benchmark stable doesn’t mean game stable. Always test your overclock in game if you want to run an overclock in game. I would keep going up until I crash unless the score keeps going down.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/31 01:11:54 (permalink)
hey sajin, when i do this, then open kombustor stress test my "line" and my clocks just go back to jumping around like they always have, due to gpu boost or whatever, but they do not remain fixed. what gives? i have my card on water and it never sees 50*C so idk why it throttles at such low temps. i have a PNY 1080. any help appreciated, thanks!
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/31 01:13:37 (permalink)
also is there a 1080 non ti bios that disables gpu boost? how safe is it to flash bios'?
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/31 11:29:32 (permalink)
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hey sajin, when i do this, then open kombustor stress test my "line" and my clocks just go back to jumping around like they always have, due to gpu boost or whatever, but they do not remain fixed. what gives? i have my card on water and it never sees 50*C so idk why it throttles at such low temps. i have a PNY 1080. any help appreciated, thanks!

Hmm. Not sure.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/31 16:57:54 (permalink)
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Don't know works fine for me...
 



Will it still drop rungs based on temperature?


Thank you Sajin for this nice guide. I notice that you are voltage limited in the graph above. When I do this procedure, I notice I am power limited with the KPE. Although you only show power percent, my power tops out at 440w, even with the OC or LN2 bios. I am power/voltage limited with a square wave pattern showing alternating limits from either of these two parameters during a port royal run. From comments you have made elsewhere , it seems temps over 40 are the reason. Somewhere I read that the bios is programmed to dynamically reduce clocks 1 bin for every degree over 40. Is this correct?
Anyway I am at 48 degrees with full fans (replaced stock fans with noctua A12-25pwm). My sliders are all to the right in afterburner. I guess I need to use the classified tool and flip some dip switches to raise the voltages. Then my power limit will be solid. Or is that not the goal?

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2020/12/31 17:15:44 (permalink)
Yeah, with 2080 ti anything over 40c is when gpu boost started pulling MHz, but it wasn’t 15 MHz for each degree over 40c. 40c was just the first temp at which gpu boost will start to pull the first 15 MHz. You don’t want to hit the power limit as your card will throttle even harder. You want to utilize as most of the 520w limit as you can without hitting/exceeding it.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/01/10 11:51:23 (permalink)
Anyone know how to get Precision X1 voltage curve editor to behave like the one MSI afterburner? what I mean I want to rise just 1 node on my selected voltage, hit apply and have the rest of then nodes auto align to my selection. I can't for the life of me figure out how to do this. technically I could sit there and move each one separately, but then I can't even use the arrow keys to nudge them up by 1 mhz at a time for fine adjustement.
I like some of the features the X1 gives me for the 3090 that afterburner doesn't and would like to use X1 instead, but not at the expense of not being able to tweak voltage curves fast.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/01/28 15:37:23 (permalink)
great info! thanks for the share
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/02/24 23:12:45 (permalink)
Thanks for the info! Helping the newbies like myself. 👍
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/04/28 08:00:17 (permalink)
You just made me feel like I've been overclocking wrong, all these years, damn you jayztwocents 🤣 But, really cool info, thanks for the post. I look forward to comparing these results to my previous clock speeds.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/05/03 14:55:45 (permalink)
@Sajin First, thank you for the guide :)
Second, what are the benefits of overclocking via voltage curve vs. just setting an offest?
Also, if I enable the voltage control in Afterburner what should I use from the four options?
 
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/05/03 15:16:26 (permalink)
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@Sajin First, thank you for the guide :)
Second, what are the benefits of overclocking via voltage curve vs. just setting an offest?
Also, if I enable the voltage control in Afterburner what should I use from the four options?
 
Reference Design
Standard MSI
Extended MSI
Third Party
 
I have a 3090 FTW3 Ultra.
Thank you
 
 


Sajin's guides are the best! The custom curve overclock usually happens with less voltage, and that equals to less heat. 
You have a third party, not a reference board or either MSI boards.
 
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/05/03 17:20:27 (permalink)
Being able to set your frequency/voltage where you want it is the biggest plus when using the curve to overclock versus the offset method. All four voltage control options seem to work the same to me.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/05/03 19:10:03 (permalink)
Thanks to both of you for the answers. Can I also get a better overclocking with this method?
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/05/04 10:32:28 (permalink)
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Thanks to both of you for the answers. Can I also get a better overclocking with this method?

You’ll have better control over the frequency/voltage, so yes.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/06/02 14:57:22 (permalink)
Afterburner is BiS
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/06/14 20:46:11 (permalink)
Always thought there was a huge risk to overclocking but it seems like as long as your knowledgeable its some easy extra performance.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2021/06/19 10:29:15 (permalink)
thx for the info
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