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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/07 07:38:42 (permalink)
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www. youtube. com/watch?time_continue=3&v=NvW_F7fb4bU
 
Link in the description. He requested folks link his video and not the download directly. I also think it's not on TPU in the Unverified section. 1000W PL. 1.093V hard limit is still there however.



Just download MSI Afterburner directly from MSI 

https://us.msi.com/page/afterburner
 
no need to link a video
 
newest version released today


I think he was asking where to get the XOC BIOS.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/14 13:06:59 (permalink)
Say anyone got a good guide on overclocking my EVGA GTX 1070 Ti FTW Ultra Silent card with MSI afterburner?
I have actually tried overclocking the card with EVGA Precision XOC and while it seems to take quite well I think it may be limiting my potential with this card.
A card like this is meant to be overclocked after all, I like to see if i can take my card even farther (this is more for fun as i think i got things pretty good but am curious).
The initial guide is for a GTX 1080Ti and qwhile i am sure i can use most of the settings in the guide something more dialed for my card would be appreciated.
Its the voltages I would be more concerned about than anything, while sure getting the max voltage information is easy I do like some recommendation of the optimal voltage of my card without killing it.
post edited by MadmanRB - 2019/03/14 13:11:59


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/14 13:36:35 (permalink)
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Say anyone got a good guide on overclocking my EVGA GTX 1070 Ti FTW Ultra Silent card with MSI afterburner?
I have actually tried overclocking the card with EVGA Precision XOC and while it seems to take quite well I think it may be limiting my potential with this card.
A card like this is meant to be overclocked after all, I like to see if i can take my card even farther (this is more for fun as i think i got things pretty good but am curious).
The initial guide is for a GTX 1080Ti and qwhile i am sure i can use most of the settings in the guide something more dialed for my card would be appreciated.
Its the voltages I would be more concerned about than anything, while sure getting the max voltage information is easy I do like some recommendation of the optimal voltage of my card without killing it.


Running the max voltage in afterburner isn't going to cause your card to instantly fry because it has been deemed a safe max voltage by nvidia.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/14 14:57:45 (permalink)
Understood, I was just being cautious as this is my first time actually overclocking my card.
Still if there are any tips anyone can provide it is very welcome


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/14 23:20:56 (permalink)
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Understood, I was just being cautious as this is my first time actually overclocking my card.
Still if there are any tips anyone can provide it is very welcome




If I am not mistaken the very first post of this thread should have what you are asking for - pointers on how to OC your card.
You still have to do legwork with bench marking / validating your settings


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/31 19:17:21 (permalink)
First time posting here guys. I've been pushing my GTX 1080 FTW2 as much as I can. I followed the guide and it helped a lot.

Here's my question, sometimes when I'm gaming I'll see the voltage go to 1093 mV so I decided to use that as my voltage since I never saw it go any higher. But now after following the guide it won't go up to 1093 anymore. It'll max out at 1081. I have a Kraken G12 and CLC 120mm coming on Tuesday to help with temps/noise. Trying to get to 2100 mhz so far I got 2088 stable.

Edit: When setting the curve it had set the 1081 mV frequency at 2088 so it was just running at that voltage. Fixed it by turning the frequency up at 1093.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/31 19:28:25 (permalink)
"109c mV" <-- is that a typo?
 
1.094 V will be the max voltage you will see on an pascal card
What are your current temps when hitting 2088 mhz?
 
My 2080ti FTW3 on water sits at 2037.5mhz till about 38c, 39-40c it droops to 2025. Unless you ran your system on a chiller I don't see you getting a stable 2100 with that card
 
But if you do manage it it would be nice to see where your temps are


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/03/31 20:11:53 (permalink)
It was a typo sorry lol. Was in a rush before heading out to work. Yeah I meant 1093 mV. I got it to do it again I just had to turn up the frequency to 2100MHz at 1093mV. It was only going to 1081 because they were all set at 2088. My temps get up to around 70C and then it'll throttle down to about 2050. I didn't get a chance to bench it at 2100 before heading out.

Excited to see what temps I can get on Tuesday when I put the AIO on it.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/04 09:08:47 (permalink)
Hey Sajin got a question for ya, idk if u know but msi AB got a update that pretty much auto does what u explain in guide kinda but the max voltage it uses when scanning for a overclock is 1000mv, it does not go any higher than that for some reason. Was curious if u knew why and any way to tweak something to make the scanner use a 1093 voltage setting cause kinda odd it doesnt go higher. 
 
Ive gotten some interesting results using the auto OC and would like to test it using a higher voltage but alas it seems to wanna not go higher for some reason. 

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/04 14:02:06 (permalink)
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Hey Sajin got a question for ya, idk if u know but msi AB got a update that pretty much auto does what u explain in guide kinda but the max voltage it uses when scanning for a overclock is 1000mv, it does not go any higher than that for some reason. Was curious if u knew why and any way to tweak something to make the scanner use a 1093 voltage setting cause kinda odd it doesnt go higher. 
 
Ive gotten some interesting results using the auto OC and would like to test it using a higher voltage but alas it seems to wanna not go higher for some reason. 


Isn't a way to change it that I'm aware of.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/04 14:03:34 (permalink)
Alright not a biggie just odd, as i reran it earlier and now the max it uses is 1012 so ya idk lol, and i was wrong kinda as it dont copy exactly what u said as it applies a OC on each curve step instead of just the last one but overall its not bad just not perfect so i still do mine by hand :p

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/05 05:29:11 (permalink)
Good guide, but I guess the only way to take advantage of the increased voltage is to remain on the fixed/locked voltage.  No chance to unlock it and still keep it dynamic right because the vbios just won't voluntarily go up to that V step?
 
I'm trying to OC a 2080ti XC Black and keep running into the power limit even at 135% and just 2000Mhz, but that's at FULL testing load.  In gaming, the voltage is pegged at 1.043V or lower which becomes the limit quite often, so was hoping to get an extra few steps and still allow it to down-volt to save power.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/05 06:01:38 (permalink)
honestly what i did was just make a another profile with standard clocks at first and just switch to that when not gaming so it downclocks, its not much of a hassle. 

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/05 06:16:59 (permalink)
I know I can use other profiles, but that does not allow for comprehensive power savings. You couldn't possibly manage to toggle the profile often enough to save energy equally to the automation. Anyway, opposite to what I am asking, I am asking about automatic down-volting like is enabled out of factory.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/05 07:31:49 (permalink)
Not possible. This locks in the voltage during game which i prefer, once done I just switch profiles. Voltage not staying locked during game loads can lead to oc stability and temps not an issue and 1093 is plenty safe.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/08 14:07:11 (permalink)
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But if you do manage it it would be nice to see where your temps are


Got the Kraken G12 installed with a CLC120 on my GTX 1080 FTW2. Temps never go above 47C and core clock stays at 2126MHz with no throttling. It will crash out of games if I try to push it further. Pretty happy with the results.

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 00:26:05 (permalink)
hey Sajin, can you please help me with my issue stated above? do i even have an issue? You seem to be an exp in 1080 ti ocing

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 09:56:04 (permalink)
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hey Sajin, can you please help me with my issue stated above? do i even have an issue? You seem to be an exp in 1080 ti ocing

Increasing the voltage slider shouldn't cause any crashing unless the card is trying to boost higher due to increasing the voltage slider. If you're not powering the card with two separate pci-e power cables I would recommend doing so.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 10:46:30 (permalink)
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Increasing the voltage slider shouldn't cause any crashing unless the card is trying to boost higher due to increasing the voltage slider. If you're not powering the card with two separate pci-e power cables I would recommend doing so.


Yes it's powered by two cables, it's trying to push over 2025 mhz and crashes if i increase voltage as you say. I guess I just don't need to increase it in my case?

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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 10:49:46 (permalink)
Either don't increase it, or try more to try and stabilize.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 12:30:14 (permalink)
Sajin I really appreciate this guide, and I`ve tried following everything you said, but my voltage is just bouncing all around when the temps hit 80c plus


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 12:48:09 (permalink)
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Sajin I really appreciate this guide, and I`ve tried following everything you said, but my voltage is just bouncing all around when the temps hit 80c plus


That is because your temps are too high.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 13:06:52 (permalink)
So in the 70`s it should stop moving around


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 14:50:48 (permalink)
Lower temps will definitely help keep it more stable.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 15:30:09 (permalink)
Gotcha...thx bro


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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/11 15:30:52 (permalink)
No problem.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/23 15:58:47 (permalink)
hello, sorry for long post incoming :D but have few questions I need answer to before upgrading to rtx 2070 from gtx 1060,
 
 
 
First of all nice guide! I want to use this instead of precision xoc k-boost when I upgrade to rtx 2070 from gtx 1060, since k-boost no longer works on rtx cards from what I can tell,
from what I understand this curve in msi afterburner is the only way to do what k-boost does, for rtx cards right?  = set gpu cards max boost level during games regardless of gpu load I mean,
 
 
 
couple questions:
 
 
1. is 1093 mv the max limit for evga rtx 2070 dual fan version? evga 08g-p4-1071-kr is model name, or other value? is the max volt same for all 2070 cards?
2. when using this curve, will frequency / volt still go down automatically, if card is getting very hot? or it stays fixed no matter what until crash for example?
are fans still automatically controlled and will go up/down depending on current temperature?
 
3. if we say for example in case of evga rtx 2070 dual fan card, the specs is : base core clock 1410 mhz, base boost clock 1620 mhz, base memory clock 1750 mhz,
under 3d gaming loads with no power/volt/temp limits changed, and no OC applied,  the typical gpu boost/memory clock will be: 1665-1890 mhz core, memory 1750 mhz, volt 925-1.068 V,
 
 
(those numbers taken from techpowerup evga rtx2070 review)
 
 
so let's say as example, based on these numbers, I want to set a frequency that will work like k-boost did, can I follow the curve guide on first page to set up a frequency/volt curve that will 
keep steady 1890 mhz core, volt 1.068 ? (and I first raise power/temp/volt limit to max), will this kind of be the same as k-boost function? or maybe I don't even have to raise limits because 
those values of 1890 mhz core/1.068v max boost, are without power/temp/volt limits raised? If I raise the limits, it will be higher boost clock than 1890 mhz in this case/example?
 
 
 
4. I don't want to set 100% fan speed, because I don't want to overclock, I simply want the k-boost function but using this curve, so lets say for example I set up a curve that will 
lock card to 1890 mhz core, volt 1.068v, will fan speeds automatically go up/down depending on temperature, in other words normal function of fans, and how k-boost also worked? 
 
 
 
 
Because, with k-boost there was no need to change fan speeds manually for example, they would go up/down automatically depending on temperature, etc. Also I like silent gaming so I would like to
keep fan speed as low as possible, but still safe temperature, something like max 75-80c, with fans at max 50% or something like this, max 50% fanspeed is just example number that I guess will 
not give much noise and still keep card at max 75-80c, also remember gpu load will not be high in my games like 50-60% with gtx 1060 today, will probably be even lower with rtx 2070, so is not heavy graphics or intense load etc (games like fortnite on lowest settings 1080p, overwatch low settings 1080p, cs:go etc) I just want the fixed core and volt to keep boost clock from going down to get maximum average fps possible even with low gpu load, basically :)
 
 
 
 
5. Last question, I understand the curve can be used to overclock as well, and am aware raising fan speed would be good idea in that case, but does it touch memory clocks or only core? could I for example, if I was interested in small memory OC,  set +500 mhz to memory (a somewhat "safe" OC I think?) and then just set up my curve to the example above of max 1890 core, 1.068 v, and raise power/temp/volt limit to max to get a small memory oc, together with k-boost function of max boost core clock permanently regardless of game load? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Thats all my questions, very thankful for any help with this, to summarize:
 
basically I'm interested in using the curve to emulate the k-boost function from old evga P XOC, *without* the need for overclocking, so I don't want to raise fan speed to 100% as I like silent gaming, I *only* want to keep core boost at max clock permanently before any OC is applied, and I play competitive fps games with lowest gfx settings to achieve high framerates (200-300 fps etc) and problem with normal gpu boost is without k-boost, it will drop boost clock and average fps goes down compared to k-boost enabled function in non-demanding games, the games I play are not intense load/detailed graphics and will not heat card much anyway, up to 80c or so is acceptable for me, if it means that fans are not generating much noise, again I like silent gaming,
 
 
 
 
If anyone could help me with my questions, or have done a similar curve on rtx 2070 card for the purpose of keeping max boost clock at all times without OC, and can share how they did or so would be great, 
 
 
 
 
TL;DR: I don't want to use curve to overclock, and I don't want to set 100% fans because I like silent gaming, i'm ONLY interested in using curve to emulate k-boost function and keep max default/pre-OC boost clocks permanently,  regardless of gpu load %, because without this the gpu boost will drop clocks a lot in my games that I play with all lowest settings at 1080p and fps will go down, 
 
 
 
thanks for any help and comments on this, cheers!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




 
post edited by alexander1986 - 2019/04/23 16:02:54
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/23 17:22:24 (permalink)
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TL;DR: I don't want to use curve to overclock, and I don't want to set 100% fans because I like silent gaming, i'm ONLY interested in using curve to emulate k-boost function and keep max default/pre-OC boost clocks permanently,  regardless of gpu load %, because without this the gpu boost will drop clocks a lot in my games that I play with all lowest settings at 1080p and fps will go down, 

Then just do this, and you'll be good to go.
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/23 18:06:36 (permalink)
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TL;DR: I don't want to use curve to overclock, and I don't want to set 100% fans because I like silent gaming, i'm ONLY interested in using curve to emulate k-boost function and keep max default/pre-OC boost clocks permanently,  regardless of gpu load %, because without this the gpu boost will drop clocks a lot in my games that I play with all lowest settings at 1080p and fps will go down, 

Then just do , and you'll be good to go.




 
awesome! very helpful, thanks a lot man! 
 
 
just have last few questions that will remove all final question marks, and would be very grateful for answers,  whenever you have time:
 
 
1.If I use the curve to lock at the max volt point to achieve the max boost clocks in idle, will fans still increase/decrease speed based on temperatures,
like normal/default? I mean they will use the default fan curve in the cards bios?  and will the card still downclock / lower boost based on temperatures?
the hotter the core the lower the boost, etc? temperature will define boost clock basically, instead of also gpu load being factor?
 
 
2.If I raise temp/power/volt limit to max in afterburner, and then apply the max volt curve trick, what will be the difference vs not raising the limits?
I guess the core clock and volt will be higher on average than without raising the limits, and no other difference ? 
 
 
3.I would like to switch between "kboost" and "normal" profile in msi when gaming / not gaming for example, to achieve this I could basically do this?:
raise temp/power/volt limits to max, apply, and then do the max volt curve trick to lock clock speeds, apply and save profile with name like "kboost" or something,
so when I am finished gaming I just reset msi to default settings, and when gaming again I just load my saved "kboost" profile with the raised limits + volt curve trick?
 
 
4. last question I promise :D , if I ever get interested in doing small overclock, in combination with the volt curve trick , I raise limits to max, then apply small OC to core and memory like +50 mhz/+500 mhz or something "safe" before doing the volt curve trick, to get even higher locked boost clocks? core boost will still be depending on temperatures I guess,
but on average will be higher core boost clock?
 
 
 
That will be final questions and will not need more info after that i'm sure ! thanks again for the help man! VERY much appreciated! :)
 
cheers
 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by alexander1986 - 2019/04/23 18:11:26
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Re: [Guide] How to force max voltage & curve overclock with msi afterburner 2019/04/23 18:16:36 (permalink)
1. Yes.
2. Correct.
3. Yep.
4. Yeah.
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