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Re:Get It Colder II
Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:19 PM
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Two words: Grey Mole. If you can get in contact with him (haven't seen him on XS in a while). IMO he is one of the best, if not the best, phase and cascade builders out there. When i was seriously considering an SS or 2 stage, i talked with him a ton. Great guy, even better builder. He tunes his units better than Sdumper and RunMC, and he sells them for cheaper, with a 1 year warranty i must add. He works in HVACR for a living, so he builds his units for fun. He sells the so cheap because he likes building them for the fun of it, not for the money. His work speaks for himself too if you look through his stuff. (all threads started by him on XS; some phase stuff in there: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/search.php?searchid=22381987). Many of his builds seem to use 3/4hp compressors and are tuned for -4x* to -5x*C at 300-350w. He also has been able to tune for 500w at -25*C on one build of his i saw. Also for fun he was able to get an SS he made with a 1/2hp compressor to run -100*C (unloaded, but still, pretty sick). Halo, if you build, a 3/4hp compressor or more would be what you should get. Also, if you want -40*C at 300w, be prepared for tuning alot and mixing gases. There is a ton that goes into building and tuning (and really tuning, not just using huge parts to get the temps you want)... Or you could just go to ln2 and make things alot simpler.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:23 PM
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Hehe LN2 is very unlikely for me.
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Re:Get It Colder II
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grey mole fell off the playing field yet again. i was going to grab a cascade from him at one time. he definitely knows a thing or two, but is hardly around anymore. more than likely his health and family matters. he can build a phase change out of just about anything that can produce sub zero temps though..lol flip side though...allot of bad press going on with grey mole as well. it's why i didnt get the cascade from him. it's a bit more in depth, but im not going into it. i got this with R290/R507A  -79C, but then unloaded is temp game as well.. side note: just pick this one up. you can get your feet wet...then take it and transform it into something else or the first stage of a cascade...that way...you will have an idea of what your up against. adding ports switching the evap recharging changing the condesor learning the wiring and so on. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=915476&high=phase i was thinking of using it as a gpu cooler.
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Re:Get It Colder II
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i read up on some of the supposed issues people had with him. Didn't seem like that big of a deal to be honest; more like miscommunication but the other sides were being stupid about it. To me most of his problems seemed to stem from the other people involved, and not so much him. Also, he replied in those threads many times at XS to try and amend any problems that had gone on. Maybe you know more than me though about the issues?
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Re:Get It Colder II
Sunday, May 01, 2011 0:33 PM
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johnksss
just pick this one up. you can get your feet wet...then take it and transform it into something else or the first stage of a cascade...that way...you will have an idea of what your up against. adding ports switching the evap recharging changing the condesor learning the wiring and so on. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=915476&high=phase i was thinking of using it as a gpu cooler. Does it look kosher to you? I see wires dangling and a circuit board laying on the counter. Also, he thinks it is only tuned to 200W load. I am pretty sure my 965 will give it a hard time; but it certainly would be a start. I actually have a refrigeration certificate so I can buy refrigerant, but having a certificate doesn't mean I know what I am doing. The knowledge part takes time and practice.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:15 AM
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ty_ger07 I actually have a refrigeration certificate so I can buy refrigerant, but having a certificate doesn't mean I know what I am doing. The knowledge part takes time and practice. How hard is it to get that certificate? I'll probably want to think about that.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:36 AM
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Halo_003 ty_ger07 I actually have a refrigeration certificate so I can buy refrigerant, but having a certificate doesn't mean I know what I am doing. The knowledge part takes time and practice. How hard is it to get that certificate? I'll probably want to think about that. For me, it was just a Saturday morning. It may vary from state to state though. The instructor talked for about 4 hours about various theory stuff and regulations, we took a test, and paid a fee, and that was it.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:00 AM
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Oh nice I'll look into that then.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:10 AM
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ty_ger07 johnksss just pick this one up. you can get your feet wet...then take it and transform it into something else or the first stage of a cascade...that way...you will have an idea of what your up against. adding ports switching the evap recharging changing the condesor learning the wiring and so on. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=915476&high=phase i was thinking of using it as a gpu cooler. Does it look kosher to you? I see wires dangling and a circuit board laying on the counter. Also, he thinks it is only tuned to 200W load. I am pretty sure my 965 will give it a hard time; but it certainly would be a start. I actually have a refrigeration certificate so I can buy refrigerant, but having a certificate doesn't mean I know what I am doing. The knowledge part takes time and practice. if didnt have compressors laying around, i would have grabbed it already. because it's a starting ground. works as is an can be upgraded when one has money/time and parts..  not sure about the hold down though. give the guy a pm and ask a few questions. xxrabid93 i read up on some of the supposed issues people had with him. Didn't seem like that big of a deal to be honest; more like miscommunication but the other sides were being stupid about it. To me most of his problems seemed to stem from the other people involved, and not so much him. Also, he replied in those threads many times at XS to try and amend any problems that had gone on. Maybe you know more than me though about the issues? 1 to 2 years later is a bit late my young friend. here let me sell you my 980x and think about giving it to you a year later..i dont think you would be very happy about that. besides..i talked to him directly so i pretty much know what was going on at the time. told you..i was gonna get a cascade from him. i just didnt go in to detail as to what happen.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Monday, May 02, 2011 3:17 AM
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Re:Get It Colder II
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:25 AM
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anyone have suggestions for a multi thermometer, looking for 2 or more readouts.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:50 PM
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I got the UEI DT304 a few months ago. It has 4 readings, although you see two on the screen then push a toggle button to see the other two readings. My el cheapo dual probe Amprobe TMD-10 actual gives more accurate readings than the UEI though. You might check that out too. Next time around I'm spending the $ on a Fluke.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:44 PM
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yeah, that was a good one! i have 2 dual inputs now.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:04 PM
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Supco EM60 Dual Differential Thermometer Enviro Meter http://www.climatedoctors...em.aspx?itemid=8790543 I was looking at this guy hella cheapo , more money for hardware, since I just bought a 480 lightning and thinking about getting another. Trying to cut corners since I'm using Dice thought this one couldn't be too bad... I can live with it not being totally accurate.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:28 PM
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i would grab it. it should do fine. worse case it is off by 1 to 2 degrees. no biggie. dry ice is -78C but when benching...you wont see that high so it should be cool. let me know how it turns out...i may grab one for my phase as well.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:01 AM
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sup guys long time no see......hey threedhero you can find cheapo thermos from ebay for like 11 bucks shipped thats what I use and there just fine for dice. http://cgi.ebay.com/1300-...%3D8928374573870786146
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Re:Get It Colder II
Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:53 AM
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Hey Reggie how's it going man?
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Re:Get It Colder II
Thursday, May 05, 2011 5:52 PM
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So much going on here, so little of it from me :( I am planning out a new build-from scratch, but not a computer. ANOTHER CNC machine. Not to have 2, but to upgrade this one to a much higher work envelope.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 1:06 AM
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 1:35 AM
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have you had a chance to put this machine to work. meaning...earn it's keep. because it's sure keeping you busy.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 1:30 PM
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Wassup fellas? Things boring now...no new HW to get excited about. Anyone running a GTX 590? I want the GTX 295 days back, lol!
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 4:37 PM
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Q56_Monster Wassup fellas? Things boring now...no new HW to get excited about. Anyone running a GTX 590? I want the GTX 295 days back, lol! Heh IMO the 590 was a failure, if I was gonna get a dual GPU card I'd get a 6990. Right now I'm thinking I'll upgrade platforms when Ivy Bridge is out, and get the top end Single GPU at the time. I'm thinking about benching the 295 again. Still not sure what's up with this CPU though.. 4400Mhz @ 1.33V is perfectly stable, but it doesn't seem to like 4500Mhz or higher. When I set Vcore at 1.4, it only gets to around 4525Mhz, however it's definitely not a voltage wall. Confusing, yes? CPU VTT doesn't seem to affect it either. It's giving me a bunch of issues lol. The BSOD it gives me is one that indicates Vcore, but that's obviously not what the problem is. Oh yeah, and I have 2 GTX 260 Hydro Copper 192 (65nm, volt controllable) versions I can bench if I get bored..  And another 920 with a stock voltage of 1.22(I think). I'd just have to work up the courage to pull down my WC loop, which is a total pain.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 5:11 PM
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do like we did.....drop the whole case all together...lol
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 5:29 PM
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It's really tempting to do that honestly.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 5:51 PM
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once you slap that pot on a few more times...you'll drop the case all together. then you will notice water cooling is a lot more "user friendly"
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 6:38 PM
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well ive got the 480 lightning in having fun on h2o, while i wait for my duniek slim gpu pot to get here.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 7:17 PM
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johnksss once you slap that pot on a few more times...you'll drop the case all together. then you will notice water cooling is a lot more "user friendly" I kinda want to get a Dimastech bench.. Would be nice to have it all that simple.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Friday, May 06, 2011 7:43 PM
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that is a great addon to anyones benching system.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Saturday, May 07, 2011 3:55 AM
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johnksss have you had a chance to put this machine to work. meaning...earn it's keep. because it's sure keeping you busy. I will be using the same motors and some other stuff, but I need new metal slabs, going with linear bearing rails, and this will have close to TWO FEET of travel in both X/Y and far more accurate then my current machine.
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Re:Get It Colder II
Saturday, May 07, 2011 5:25 AM
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ahh, sounds cool. how long is this next phase going to take?
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