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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 06:42:26 (permalink)
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wish I could tell you but I haven't used it since they update the format, which sucks...

How long will 30lbs of dry-ice last with a 920?


That much will last an entire weekend if the chunks are large, and you break them up as you go. 
Pellets will last... far less. 
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 07:13:22 (permalink)
Know how long 20lbs would last an i7 + GTX 295?

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 11:32:46 (permalink)
Halo_003

Know how long 20lbs would last an i7 + GTX 295?


couldn't tell you.  never diced GPU. 

If I ever did on my good 295...  
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 12:18:19 (permalink)
I am thinking of drilling a hole, in the side of my CPU.  That would give some pretty accurate CPU temps I would think
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 13:21:17 (permalink)
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I am thinking of drilling a hole, in the side of my CPU.  That would give some pretty accurate CPU temps I would think  
 


IMO, bad idea. 






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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/16 23:07:10 (permalink)
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threedhero

wish I could tell you but I haven't used it since they update the format, which sucks...

How long will 30lbs of dry-ice last with a 920?


That much will last an entire weekend if the chunks are large, and you break them up as you go. 
Pellets will last... far less. 


Great call right here Nate Thanks bud!!! 10lbs of pellets was the way to go for sure, if my session didn't get cut short it would have lasted about maybe 4hrs.

Here's one for the crew!


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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/17 11:15:31 (permalink)
Nice!

Rabid what drivers do you use for 8 series benching that get best results?

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/17 11:23:47 (permalink)
@Halo: I use the 190.xx's but i haven't devulged too much into different drivers. I do want to try them with the new 257.21 though, b/c there is a supposed 5% increase on vantage over previous drivers with it.


@threedhero: nice frosty pics, now we want results. Why not insulate the top part though? I would be afraid of some of the frost melting and dripping on the board.
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/17 11:25:59 (permalink)
Cool thanks.

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/17 20:07:23 (permalink)
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Here's one for the crew!




Nice on the Dice!  Lucky dog...I so can not wait to do that!

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/17 20:55:29 (permalink)
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@threedhero: nice frosty pics, now we want results. Why not insulate the top part though? I would be afraid of some of the frost melting and dripping on the board.


This pic was during the break down of my x58 920 session, everything was wrapped and taped up during benching.


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threedhero


Here's one for the crew!




Nice on the Dice!  Lucky dog...I so can not wait to do that!


Yeah Q it was a lot of fun glad I only got 10lbs since it was my first time didn't know what to expect.

Hopefully I'll have some good results for bot on my next run.




 
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 09:22:20 (permalink)

 

   

 
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 14:08:45 (permalink)
Finally have some time to work on my oc for my 920. (though it is storming like crazy, so i gotta be careful...) Booted and running 4.2. Still need to test it bench stable though. Gonna try and get 4.4 bench stable then throw in my friends cards i mentioned a few days ago.

Vantage cpu tests are the most stressful of any 3dmark, right? So if i am stable in vantage, i should be stable in all the others?
 
EDIT: fack, 4.2 froze in vantage. What does it usually relate to when it freezes but no bsod?
post edited by xxrabid93 - 2010/06/18 14:22:30
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 18:31:59 (permalink)
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Finally have some time to work on my oc for my 920. (though it is storming like crazy, so i gotta be careful...) Booted and running 4.2. Still need to test it bench stable though. Gonna try and get 4.4 bench stable then throw in my friends cards i mentioned a few days ago.

Vantage cpu tests are the most stressful of any 3dmark, right? So if i am stable in vantage, i should be stable in all the others?
 
EDIT: fack, 4.2 froze in vantage. What does it usually relate to when it freezes but no bsod?


I find either Vtt, IOH or Vcore..... what have you got these set at?
 
also watch your temps ....if your on air (which i think you are) uping VTT will bump temp up.......
 
and when you say it froze in vantage, which test GPU or CPU??
post edited by SniperOZ - 2010/06/18 18:44:10

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 18:54:08 (permalink)
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I find either Vtt, IOH or Vcore..... what have you got these set at?
 
also watch your temps ....if your on air (which i think you are) uping VTT will bump temp up.......
 
and when you say it froze in vantage, which test GPU or CPU??


vcore: 1.3625
vtt: 1.45 (+250)
ioh vcore: 1.05
20(+1)x200 = 4.2ghz
and i have HT on.
Just from looking at these again, i would assume it might be my ioh, as i still have it stock. What's a max value i should push the ioh on air?

Ya i'm on air. I have been watching temps, but when running vantage i can't cause i only have 1 monitor. Is there a way to put vantage in a window? As for it freezing, I was only running the cpu tests. It froze in the middle of cpu test 1.
 
To anyone: how does HT on off affect 3d benches? AKA, is HT on or off better for 3d?
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 19:10:45 (permalink)
Sometimes in vantage while you have your cards OC'd it can make your cpu test unstable. Try the cpu test with cards at stock if it passes. Use precision to create profiles and switch the card back to stock before the cpu tests. If the card OC'd passes with the cpu test then you'll need to tweak the cpu volts more.



 
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 19:22:24 (permalink)
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SniperOZ

I find either Vtt, IOH or Vcore..... what have you got these set at?
 
also watch your temps ....if your on air (which i think you are) uping VTT will bump temp up.......
 
and when you say it froze in vantage, which test GPU or CPU??


vcore: 1.3625
vtt: 1.45 (+250)
ioh vcore: 1.05
20(+1)x200 = 4.2ghz
and i have HT on.
Just from looking at these again, i would assume it might be my ioh, as i still have it stock. What's a max value i should push the ioh on air?

Ya i'm on air. I have been watching temps, but when running vantage i can't cause i only have 1 monitor. Is there a way to put vantage in a window? As for it freezing, I was only running the cpu tests. It froze in the middle of cpu test 1.
 
To anyone: how does HT on off affect 3d benches? AKA, is HT on or off better for 3d?


Yeah you could go up on all vcore vtt and ioh remember though your are overclocking to run vantage not run 24/7 so a bit higher is OK
Try this
vcore: 1.4(lower end)
vtt: (+300)
ioh vcore: 1.2 (lowe end)
 
as far as looking at temps while runing vanatge i tend to watch my LED debug display it will show a temp reading and yes i no this is not what the cores are but it gives you an idea of were it is at......and a base line ......remember in most cases if the system gets to hot it WILL shut down (not lock up)
 
and as threadhero suggested setting a lower overclock that you can use hot keys to drop the overclock for cpu run can help a lot.....
  
 
post edited by SniperOZ - 2010/06/18 19:31:19

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 20:06:09 (permalink)
in all reality...vantage doesn't need that much vtt...

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 20:23:44 (permalink)
hmm maybe not...... but if it is'nt working you need to start looking at other areas...... like we always say every setup is different that high vtt isn't a problem with the 920 so its worth a crack as long as the temp is monitored... but you need to try everything and rule it out within your own system

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 20:26:17 (permalink)
That's a nice oc on air rabid!  vcore until it passes.

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 20:54:20 (permalink)
Thanks for the tips guys!

Actually right now i am working on my q9300/Giga ep45-ud3p rig. I've got up to 3.85 (all air too) bench stable(sp1m, wp32m, pifast). If i submitted all my results to the bot right now i would get some decent points, but i am going for gold.

It seems for sp1m, wp32m, and pifast, i have the frequency, but am not getting to the top (though so far i am very pleased with my results and where i would be if i submitted). Would you guys say the next thing to tweak is ram? Tighter timings or higher frequency though? I keep forgetting if 2d benches like tight timings or high frequency...
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 21:06:51 (permalink)
no so much each system is different...more like how you run your ram decides how your vtt voltage runs at...
i have seen this on at least 5 boards....
and pctools can bench with no vtt running vantage.
where i can bench with anywhere from no vtt to +325 depending on how i run my ram or what type of ram im running.. 
q56 and mrnatural can as well... meaning they can run it very low.
(speculation of course)
i use to run it at +425, then found that that was all wrong..lol
same with cpu voltage.....
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 21:08:31 (permalink)
Alright. Who tripped over the power cord at HWBot?

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 21:11:05 (permalink)
i dont know, but they sure were looking at your scores...yours and awalleye talking about physx and what not...and yours with the wrong link or something or the other.

i dont think that one guy even looks....it says physx and just asumes it is. the one that go awalleyeguy and i think he had sniper flagged a few times as well.

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 21:21:02 (permalink)
Yeah, I got 2 e-mails before the site went down telling me my submissions were cleared.

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 21:32:11 (permalink)
Thanks John will look in to it ive all ways ran the 920 at +300 and up
although i have my ram timings set tight which maybe why

yeah ive been flagged a few times about physx bening on it's become anoying........ you find it's newbes that don't no what to look for.... but it normaly gets sorted out

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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 22:05:18 (permalink)
q9300 3.925 all air cpuz suicide with setfsb: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1250124
And only at 1.44 vcore bios(actually easytune, but whatever) 1.42 actual.

As of right now i would be #8 cpuz, #3 pifast, #10 sp1m, and #4 wp32m. still working my way up there.
 
Edit: 3.955: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1250155 #7 cpuz. I got so lucky though. I validated it, but the system froze when it opened internet explorer. But, it only froze, and not bsod, so i was able to write down the ID # of the validation.
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 22:30:32 (permalink)
nice job rabid!!!

and Q you werent kidding about this chip being a good overclocker, 4.0ghz on air with no voltage, my other DO will only do about 3.4-3.5 depending on the season before it needs more voltage
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 22:32:25 (permalink)
WOOT! just broke the q9300 pifast world record! 24.99 seconds! Only 4 points but it feels great!
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Re:Get It Colder......II 2010/06/18 22:49:55 (permalink)
it all matters!
great job rabid!!

when they hit you guys, they hit me as well...and when i dont see you guys...im over there asking what gives! staying down for my team!

and im with sniper...very damn annoying! i haven't had any flagged in a while, but when a team member does, im on it.

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