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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:26:13
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@ Nate... how did you get -46*c on your chiller??? Best I could get was -31 in a 10*F room! Was that the coolant or the evaporator?
heh... I made prestone soda... thats how. heh  I will never know how cold it got cause my meter pegged out at -50°C pwnzorz: I use 1/2" primoflex in some sections, but I use mostly some other type of what I can best describe as surgical tubing. If i ever find out what that stuff is I will let you know. but the primoflex works juuust fine... even on some of my super cold lines. As for res-pump combo's... never used. I use the swiftech pump. It is magnetically driven. If you take the pump apart... there is only one moving impeller and that is it. It also has functioned as a primary pump for one of my chillers (whenever I forget to switch the main pump on) It pumps water to a chiller 3 feet above it , and probably close to 8 feet away. If that isn't a test of a PC pumps abilities i don't know what is. compression fittings... I don't think they are necessary. they look really nice and if your into looks (which most of us are not *ahem* oc333 *ahem*) then my all means go for it, but they will quickly rack up your budget
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:27:29
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Oh and a Radiator, most likely a 120.3, from what i read, the price difference doesn't justify the performance gains.
Read that review when you get a chance... I think it is new... not sure... I might have missed it before... the last time I read Skinnee's triple rad review it was missing some of those rads including the Swiftech stack that I now have... I took a quick glance at it just now and the stack is not looking very good. Now the Monsta rad... I would like to see a review on that!!! Also all 140mm rads!!! For my Thermoelectric Madness the more the better!!! The more... the more quiet as well.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:28:12
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Heya Nate, Overclocker333 recommend a Koolance combo res/pump, its alittle pricey at 200bucks but it may be the perfect solution for me
At the moment i'm still in need of 5870 and 5970 blocks, and Fittings, either compression or 3/8 ID over 1/2 barbs.
@ 200?!?! heeeck NOOOOOO!! thats gonna be half your budget?! (half inch gets more flow) you will save ton's just by getting pump and res seperate
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:36:27
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nateman_doo I use the swiftech pump. It is magnetically driven. If you take the pump apart... there is only one moving impeller and that is it. It also has functioned as a primary pump for one of my chillers (whenever I forget to switch the main pump on) It pumps water to a chiller 3 feet above it , and probably close to 8 feet away. If that isn't a test of a PC pumps abilities i don't know what is. The pump in the Koolance is the same pump... it is a rebranded Delphi pump... same as the Danger Den too. They come in two gph versions. nateman_doo compression fittings... I don't think they are necessary. they look really nice and if your into looks (which most of us are not *ahem* oc333 *ahem*) then my all means go for it, but they will quickly rack up your budget
*cough* I am into looks dude... it's just the messy bench look... lol Seriously... I do like good looking hardware... but functionality would be my priority. The two thing I am hesitant about the compression fittings is the can leak and they are very bulky which can create problems in some situations.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:37:09
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:38:48
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@ Nate... how did you get -46*c on your chiller??? Best I could get was -31 in a 10*F room! Was that the coolant or the evaporator?
heh... I made prestone soda... thats how. heh
I will never know how cold it got cause my meter pegged out at -50°C
So is that something you can use... or a total disaster?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:38:59
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it just seems that it would be easier, if you can think of another solution please help.
i'm thinking of going with the Feser 120.3.
still need fittings and tubing size, inner and outter.
and if im going pump/res seperate i need those, most likely i'll be getting a t-virus res, so if i go pump i'll pick the resevoir myself.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:40:03
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that link didn't work nate.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:40:40
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Swiftech = lots of bang for the buck!!!
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Re:Get It Colder II
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:43:08
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I would recommend 2 more 120.3 rads (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0245928%29 to go with the 120.2. You can put the 120.2 on the backside panel with the PSU, and the triple rads wherever you like (mine are in front)
so thats 229 for kit, & 59 for each triple rad.
That my man... lots of rads!!! *in reverse with a chiller for the internal air conditioner effect!*
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:44:36
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this way you have extra money for whatever you like... say waterblocks?
Like that killer looking plated Heatkiller!!! 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:46:55
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i'm more or less scared of these watercooling "kits"
I do like the idea of the multi rads for lots of cooling.
I'm just completely paranoid about leaking and the fittings, if i can get over the fitting disaster and tubing crap, i'll be okay
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:48:10
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:50:11
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i found the rads on newegg, i like doing business with them its a few bucks more, but worth it imo
Would that 1 pump be able to handle 3 rads?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:51:25
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what about the supplied fittings, i'm assuming i'd be replacing all the fittings and tubing with my own? or should i just build my system from scratch? *BRAIN EXPLODES*
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 04:58:47
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I used that kit... and used it for well over a year. I still use that pump from that kit... that rad. I used that rez until a few months ago when I made my own. The fittings I would buy some, but i promise that kit will not do you you wrong. Plus $59 for a triple rad?? can u go wrong? I have 2 of them. 6 fans on each. get extra tubing, and fittings, your gpu and north bridge blocks and you are done.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:01:27
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do you think that pump will handle 3 rads though?
can you help me pick out some tubing and fittings etc?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:07:32
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Heya Nate, Overclocker333 recommend a Koolance combo res/pump, its alittle pricey at 200bucks but it may be the perfect solution for me
At the moment i'm still in need of 5870 and 5970 blocks, and Fittings, either compression or 3/8 ID over 1/2 barbs.
@ 200?!?! heeeck NOOOOOO!! thats gonna be half your budget?! (half inch gets more flow) you will save ton's just by getting pump and res seperate
Well it its definitely overpriced! Now that I look at that setup... it does look restrictive. But when you think about it... the Swiftech/Delphi pump is 3/8" and it does a great job.... and remember that is the same pump that is in the Koolance res/combo. On my pumps I have the 3/8" barbs cut off and replaced with 1/2" nylon barbs. I wished that they were original... because I don't think it makes that much difference. When you think about it... a 1/2" system is reduced to 3/8" at the inside of the barbs... so how much would difference would 7/16" or 3/8" hose over 1/2" barbs make? I think that would make a good study. I just like the form factor of that combo and especially the readout. In a tower case where space is at a premium... it would be slick. It does however make me want to design a better one for sure!!!
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:09:52
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do you think that pump will handle 3 rads though?
can you help me pick out some tubing and fittings etc?
Get the dual pump res I posted earlier and a seperate readout?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:11:36
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do you think that pump will handle 3 rads though?
can you help me pick out some tubing and fittings etc?
that pump... goes through my 3 rads, and a chiller 8 feet away, and 3 feet higher. (over 16 feet of 1/2" lines) I have maybe a little over 2 gallons of liquid in that loop. So to answer your question.... yes.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:12:06
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The koolance thing overclocker?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:13:57
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would it be cheaper to go seperate, or is that kit just really affordable? it seems i could build something cheaper couldn't i? or is this kit pretty hassle free.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:14:32
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... or should i just build my system from scratch? *BRAIN EXPLODES*
That one made me laugh! I enjoyed that one... thanks. I remember my first system... I had the same fears so I bought the Thermacrap... I mean Thermatake system... took it back the next day and got busy doing it right! By the way... that Swiftech kit is the only good kit I know of. But going from scratch would be my choice... not that hard really and you will enjoy the build and learn from it.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:16:13
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if i screw something up, i'm pretty sure my wife will disown me and teach my son to forever hate me. lol
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:16:49
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ok.. I will lay it all out piece by piece. give me a few to get all the links. just look at the product, not the price since you may be able to find them cheaper..
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:17:20
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It seems that finding the 5970 block is alittle tricky, some of them have re-visions for VRM Cooling since they run extremely toasty.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:18:42
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i dont want to put you through more trouble then is required nate, if that system is honestly worth it, i'll give it a go, but how good is that CPU block, people are complaining about the bracket stripping for the i7
not to mention, you've already convinced me to watercool CPU after i was supposed to stay with H50! haha your killin' me here.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:22:15
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The koolance thing overclocker?
Like I said... I just like the form factor... I have never used one but plan on trying one. It does have the same pump that Nate likes... but it is pricey. I think if I had the case you have ( it is the big one right... double wide?) I would get the dual pump res ( redundency) and functionality... talk about flow!!! It uses two of those Delphi/Swiftech/Danger Den/Koolance... what ever you want to call them pumps! You just take the cap/head off and screw them directly to the res... which looks very nice in the 5-1/4" bays. when you add some cheap LEDs (color of your choice...lol) Who said I wasn't into looks???
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 05:23:59
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lol i think i need to get some coffee and some more smokes, this is going to be a very long morning indeed...
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