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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/01 20:50:56 (permalink)
That's how SLI should be...on Air....
Bad CPU though..5.5ghz only on LN2 
 
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4943933
http://hwbot.org/submission/2494273_

 
 
 
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/01 21:14:39 (permalink)
Looking good Brother Q

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 04:18:39 (permalink)
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That's how SLI should be...on Air....
Bad CPU though..5.5ghz only on LN2 
 
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4943933
http://hwbot.org/submission/2494273_

 
 
 
 
 


 
I Must be missing something (Eyesight Not as Good anymore), But Where does it show 5.5GHz?

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 05:09:38 (permalink)
You'll just have to believe me. Didnt have speedstep disabled. I was going to say look at the future mark link, but that doesn't show right either. Some times that happens.

You can tell by the cpu score.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 05:29:37 (permalink)
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You'll just have to believe me. Didnt have speedstep disabled. I was going to say look at the future mark link, but that doesn't show right either. Some times that happens.

You can tell by the cpu score.



No Problemo about that Q56, I'm Just use to seeing the Info on CPU-Z, But Yes, I can tell by the Score!

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 06:18:41 (permalink)
Hey Guys,
While I STILL can't get an Authorization Email to Post on Kingpincooling.com, I was just over there in the Forums trying to find some New ways to Prep MB's/VC's, etc...., But the Post I REALLY want to Look at I can't see Any of the Photos that are shown.
 
Also, When You Guys Use Kneadable Eraser around Your CPU Socket/MB for Condensation Prep, I understood You Never use ANYTHING inside the CPU Socket (Thermal Grease/Vaseline), and if that is True, How Long do You leave Your CPU in Place without removing it to check for condensation/"Pin Rot" or other damage?
 
This was one of the MAIN Reasons I prepped the inside of the CPU Socket with Vasoline, Since I NEVER Removed the CPU for Months at a time when switching from Chilled Water Cooling or Phase Change over Constant Benching periods.
 
I have read Various other MB Prep articles where some USE Thermal Grease and if they don't use anything Inside the CPU Socket and just use Kneadable Eraser, after about 12 hours of benching they Remove the CPU and check for any Moisture/Pin Damage and let it "Dry Out".
 
  
 
 
post edited by hallowen - 2014/02/02 07:28:20

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 08:27:28 (permalink)
I never check the CPU when using Kneadable eraser.  If I have a good CPU, it stays like that for month and months, until, I upgrade or want to switch CPU's.  And I never use vaseline in the socket. You could, it won't hurt anything, just a little messy when kneadable eraser comes in contact with vaseline, it makes things a gooey mess.  DON'T mix eraser and vaseline!  Try to keep them separate, especially around the socket.  I use Vaseline to coat the entire surface of the board, then melt with heat gun.  I use eraser around the socket (completely covers it), then pack in toilet paper between where the eraser stops and the mosfets, Vr's begin.  The TP is my separation of eraser and vaseline.
 
If you completely cover the socket with eraser (only the flat surface of the cpu should be visible), then no moisture can get in, period.
 
Oh, and eraser is not insulation, so it will frost over too.  Cover it with a gasket made from a blue shop paper towel to absorb any frost/melt that will occur after you are done benching.
 

 
Put blue shop towel gasket on top of eraser:

 
The put a foam insulation gasket on top of the blue shop towel:

 
 
That's the basic idea anyway
 
post edited by Q56_Monster - 2014/02/02 08:49:57

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 10:15:04 (permalink)
You Stated that you First put Vaseline on the Entire Surface of your board with a heat gun on top of using Kneadable Eraser?
 
Well, That Seems Similar (Without the Kneadable Eraser) to how I did it "Back in the Ol' Days".
 
I used This Technique as shown in these Few of Many Photos that I had Posted back a few Years in THE Original "Get it Colder" Thread in Which EVGA Administrators SOMEHOW "Lost" over 300 Photos/Posts on My Thread, which BTW, STILL PO's Me VERY Severely!  
 






































 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 11:34:23 (permalink)
I remember those photos!
 
Yeah I brush on a thin layer of vaseline on the entire board surface, except the cpu socket area.  For the cpu I cover with eraser then toilet paper around the perimeter of the eraser.  The TP serves as my buffer between the eraser and vaseline on the rest of the board.  It's just cleaner that way for me.
 
Here's a couple of my boards with a "complete" toilet paper insulation job.....You wouldn't think it works, but it does!

 

 
 

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 11:47:04 (permalink)
And here go some of my old ones as well...










 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 12:12:12 (permalink)
LOL!, No Matter Which Technique We Use, It STILL involves a lot of Time/Work!
 
I'll Give it a try with the Kneadable Eraser method on the ASUS RIV BE after I make SURE it Works Good on Air!

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 12:48:00 (permalink)
Why we do this?  We crazY!

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 13:26:26 (permalink)
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Why we do this?  We crazY!




More than Likely, I'd Say ALMOST One Step away from the Funny Farm!
 
I've Always Thought of Overclocking/Benching as either "The Thrill of Victory" ,
or "The Agony of Defeat"!  

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 21:06:33 (permalink)
Single 780 Ti KPE on stock air cooling.  This is a second 4930k....it stinks too...couldn't even get to 5.5g.  And cold bugs at -120C.  Had to go around about way with Blk clock to get close to 5.5G.  I have bad CPU luck :(
 
Oh, and the gpu core shown on GPUz I learned is inaccurate.  If you open the sensor tab of GPUz you will see the real clock.  In this example I was at 1222, but it was really 1339
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/02 21:07:33 (permalink)
Gpuz screenie didn't attach above.  780Ti KPE give inaccurate core clock, have to open sensor tab of gpuz to see real clock
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 04:58:10 (permalink)
Maybe it's just because I've never Run CPU's that high (or on LN2), Exactly How High above 5.5GHz is Considered "Good"?

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 08:07:21 (permalink)
6ghz or above is cherry chip.  I'd settle for a 5.8g chip though, as it would do the job and I could make up for it on the GPU side.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/02/03 08:14:35 (permalink)
lol 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/02/03 09:12:37 (permalink)
Hey Q... how hot are those Vregs on the Dark?  I am sure the frost from your pot keeps them cool.
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 09:21:58 (permalink)
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6ghz or above is cherry chip.  I'd settle for a 5.8g chip though, as it would do the job and I could make up for it on the GPU side.


I Don't Suppose You have ever tested the Limits of these Chips on anything but LN2, Right?

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 10:50:56 (permalink)
Time to get Busy...................
 


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 11:05:34 (permalink)
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6ghz or above is cherry chip.  I'd settle for a 5.8g chip though, as it would do the job and I could make up for it on the GPU side.


I Don't Suppose You have ever tested the Limits of these Chips on anything but LN2, Right?


I was able to do 5.2 ghz on chilled water
About 4.5 to 4.8 on air. (Asus Sabertooth Board. My 3 Rampage boards had problems doing this) 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 11:46:48 (permalink)
I'll Have to See What This Asus Does on Air Once I Stop Looking at it!
 

 

 

 


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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 12:24:17 (permalink)
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6ghz or above is cherry chip.  I'd settle for a 5.8g chip though, as it would do the job and I could make up for it on the GPU side.


I Don't Suppose You have ever tested the Limits of these Chips on anything but LN2, Right?




Of course, that's the first thing I do.  If you find a 5g on air, that could be a cherry chip.  No way to know except putting it under cold.  But air/water testing is crucial.  I run on ambient water cooling normally.
 
Both those 5.5ghz chips do max 4.85g under regular water cooling.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2014/02/03 12:27:31 (permalink)
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Hey Q... how hot are those Vregs on the Dark?  I am sure the frost from your pot keeps them cool.




 
Nate,
 
I noticed they were a little warm under water cooling @ 1.5v on the cpu.  No bad though.  A small fan took care of it entirely.  
 
And yeah I don't worry about any board cooling when using LN2.  In fact, I stuff shop towels most everywhere, including completely covering the  vreg heatsink.

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 12:37:19 (permalink)
Guys, THIS is going to take me More Time than I Thought to Learn How to Use This Particular ASUS MB!
Among Other Features, It Even has a WIRELESS REMOTE OVERCLOCKING CONTROLLER, So If You Don't Hear Any Details From Me about this Motherboard and What I Had to do to Set It Up.......................I'll Try to Get Back to You A.S.A.P.!  
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/03 14:13:11 (permalink)
Asus is good like that. I remember using my laptop to OC an asus board on the fly back in 2011

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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/04 04:00:56 (permalink)
Holy crap the old crew is back!!!! and sharing secrets no less :P 
 
how are you guys?
 
 
 

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HAF X  
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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/04 05:19:08 (permalink)
hellshealer
Holy crap the old crew is back!!!! and sharing secrets no less :P 
 
how are you guys?
 
 



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Re:Get It Colder II 2014/02/04 05:24:58 (permalink)
So Far Managed to Assemble/Start up the RIV BE/4930K and Now Installing Win 7.
I have to use an Old EVGA GTX 480 for right now since My 780 Classys are already Boxed up for Sale, and I won't get the First Pair of KPE's until probably Late Wenesday.
 
 

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