Well get some decent air clocks/scores with the 8800GT first, ya know? Backup scores incase you kill the card. After that, phase it.

Oh, the memory on this 8800GT sucks.
 
I got lucky with a couple of benches at 771/1890/994 but now I am stuck at 771/1890/929

Ok, Im going to ask this question here...
When benching 3dmark06...
If I bench just gpu test 3/4 i get a nice score, but if i run the cpu test then into test 3/4 i loose 1000 points. This is happening with my nvidia cards. Can anyone else test this. Thanks.

nateman_doo

ty_ger07

Oh, the memory on this 8800GT sucks.

I got lucky with a couple of benches at 771/1890/994 but now I am stuck at 771/1890/929

Last I rememeber SAMSUNG was the better Brand of ram.

Nice to see folks breaking out of the comfort zone and doing some Voltmods.  Seems to be a shortage of PICS THOUGH?!?

I didn't check the brand of memory.  I bought it used with an aftermarket air cooler and memory heatsinks already installed.
 
Pics... yeah...
 
7600GT below zero

Didn't overclock worth crap
 
Only picture I have of 8800GT with volt mod

Next plan: Phase change
 
9500GT below zero

Meh... card is a great performer, but going below zero hasn't helped much yet
 
Brr... 9400GT

Frosty.

ty_ger07

Q56:  Two issues with 9400GT on phase:

1) Cold bug.  GPU performance drops if the card gets too cool.

2) Can't overclock the card over 1000Mhz core.  Drivers seem to stop it at 1000Mhz.

Any ideas?

I have been doing phase on my CPU for a while (way easy), but I wanted to get some experience with phase on a video card with my 9400GT before I step up to phase on the 8800GT.

 
Cold bug is common on 9000 series.  Can't go colder than -50C max, if I remember correctly.  I don't have a 9400GT, but are you saying you can't get software to set above 1000 core?

ty_ger07

Guys, please compare my 9400GT benchmark to this other person's 9400GT benchmark and tell me what you think.

Mine:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2257375_

His:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2235044_xiaotonggua_3dmark06_geforce_9400_gt_ddr2_5861_marks/

How can it be that he has a higher score?

Why does he have no picture and no verification URL?

 
Run it again, you're way off of all his GPU tests...  way off

Q56_Monster

johnksss

Ok, Im going to ask this question here...
When benching 3dmark06...
If I bench just gpu test 3/4 i get a nice score, but if i run the cpu test then into test 3/4 i loose 1000 points. This is happening with my nvidia cards. Can anyone else test this. Thanks.

Yes, canyon and deep freeze do that.  And gpu test #2 will be higher if you don't run proxycon first....damn benches  It happens with my ATI cards too.

Thanks Q, I was thinking i was going mad for a minute! I should have like 35k score for my laptop, but that park knocks me down the the low low 34k mark. 

Ya, he's on XP. 

Q56_Monster

ty_ger07

Q56:  Two issues with 9400GT on phase:

1) Cold bug.  GPU performance drops if the card gets too cool.

2) Can't overclock the card over 1000Mhz core.  Drivers seem to stop it at 1000Mhz.

Any ideas?

I have been doing phase on my CPU for a while (way easy), but I wanted to get some experience with phase on a video card with my 9400GT before I step up to phase on the 8800GT.

Cold bug is common on 9000 series.  Can't go colder than -50C max, if I remember correctly.  I don't have a 9400GT, but are you saying you can't get software to set above 1000 core?

 
Yes, I am having trouble overclocking with software above 1000MHz core.  Originally, I had the card flashed to 900MHz core which is bootable with air and then I was overclocking above that.  But, I could not overclock over 1000MHz core, so I thought it was because it didn't like more than a 100MHz increase at that high of a core clock.  So, I flashed it to 1000Mhz core which is not bootable with air, so now I HAVE to boot with phase.  But, still I can't overclock even 1Mhz higher.  I could try flashing blindly at higher speeds, but I don't want to flash the card to a speed I have never even had a chance to test because I am afraid that at some point I will flash it too high and never be able to boot it again.

Q56_Monster

ty_ger07

Guys, please compare my 9400GT benchmark to this other person's 9400GT benchmark and tell me what you think.

Mine:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2257375_

His:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2235044_xiaotonggua_3dmark06_geforce_9400_gt_ddr2_5861_marks/

How can it be that he has a higher score?

Why does he have no picture and no verification URL?

Run it again, you're way off of all his GPU tests...  way off

Over a period of months, I have run it at least 20 times.  I have tried everything.
 
I have tried:
1) Slower clocks in case there was some unseen stability problems somewhere
2) HT off with faster CPU speed
3) Two different motherboards
4) Different operating systems
5) Different air coolers and even phase change
 
I did one run on phase and got pissed off and started this rant.  I never submitted my phase run, but it was at 1000/2000/648 and my score was still 100 points too low.  So, I have to overclock to 1100/2100/648 to beat his score when he is at a pathetic overclock!?
 
It is BS I say!  I know I am WAY off of his scores.  And that is the problem.  His scores are impossible I tell you!  Coming from my experience over these months of trying, something is wrong with his scores.  My overclocks and setup is ridiculously better than his, but yet he has an impossible to beat score.  His problem is that he has no proof other than a screenshot.  My opinion is that his screenshot is either photoshopped or GPU-z detected his card as a DDR2 card when it is actually a DDR3 card.
 
I have first place with the 9400GT in 3dm03, 3dm05, and Vantage.  Isn't it suspicious that the ONLY benchmark he has benchmarked the 9400GT, his score is impossibly high and he has no proof?
 
 

Oh... yeah... And he is using Windows 7 which makes his score even less believable.
 
Please guys, help me by reporting his score.
 
Here are the reasons to use in the report:
1) Lacks verification URL
2) Lacks photo evidence of computer setup
3) Scores are unbelievable given the GPU clock speeds, CPU and CPU clock, and operating system used.

His score calculates correctly according to the FM 3dm06 score formula.  Either the run is bugged, or those aren't his real GPU clocks.

Hmm. Fair point Ty.
 
Q, how do you get hold of that formula? Very interesting.

Thanks guys!
 
I now own the 9400GT crown all around!  (in modern benchmarks)
 
http://hwbot.org/submission/2257375_ty_ger07_3dmark06_geforce_9400_gt_ddr2_5472_marks/
 
Maybe it is time that I get 3dmark01 to complete the 9400GT conquest.

Can you turn off the 16 slot on that MSI board?  dipswitch somewhere thrown by mistake??  I don't know MSI.  Or somehow getting some condensation from the nearby SS?  Dry it out real good and pack some PJ in the slot