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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/04 22:13:20 (permalink)
6 gigs of memory, wow, nvidia finally grew a pair and put a decent amount of ram on a card. I was half expecting them to wuss out and put 1.5 again. 
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/04 23:33:37 (permalink)
2 Gbit memory is about the same price as 1 Gbit memory, just saying.
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Do the math.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 00:11:08 (permalink)
Not gonna make another thread
 
http://wccftech.com/nvidi...eview-samples-shipped/
 
6GB of VRAM and apparently they're gonna try to price it at 799.99.  Also 15% performance decrease of a GTX690.
 
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http://www.overclock.net/...ed/0_100#post_19217549

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 03:35:01 (permalink)
Hmmm Titan Classified...Left or right kidney, I can give and half of liver plus, I will survive with another half and kidney will borrow from someone from family for me....

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 05:31:17 (permalink)
Yeah but Nvidia already killed any kind of warranty for an overclock card.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 06:32:14 (permalink)
I forgot about the 590 debacle and over-volting (easiest way to not purchase new stuff is to ignore it lol) I now get why Nvidia locks them down. I would hope this card gets an honest voltage lock so you can OC it regardless.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 06:41:41 (permalink)
Well... If the numbers are true, and this is even real. We will have a card ready for 4K and Surround users will save a little money. It looks like we will only have to buy this one card instead of two 680's... 
 
Cannot wait for the real announcement... 

 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 07:55:28 (permalink)
This, bitfenix prodigy, and a 4k monitor.....nom nom nom.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 08:28:16 (permalink)
Are none of you prepared for the worse (that it doesn't exist) only to hope for the best?  It is unhealthy, and there still aren't any other independent source outside sweclockers (even videocardz sources them for God's sake); what is up with you guys?  Sweclockers made up the original price of $899 as a "guesstimation", i.e. not a leak, yet every other rumormill that sources them refers to it as intended or nVidia price or MSRP-- did you guys not catch that?   I will not accept the cop-out excuse that these are all just "rumors"-- very few react as if on the fence; some of you believe in this too easily.
 
Whoever started this rumor, probably an author at sweclockers, plain copied K20X specs directly; there is no "failed Tesla to become a GeForce" theory here; a 2688-CUDA core GPU will not compensate for a 732MHz base clock, it is like some of you aren't thinking:  
 
2688-core multiplied by 732MHz = 1536-core multiplied by 1281MHz-- if any of you have your GTX680's up that high, congratulations:  You have a Titan, do the math yourself, it is that simple.  
 
Even wccftech selectively picked the K20 pictures from Chiphell that don't show the Tesla brand despite mentioning that they were K20's, as if to imply something to those that don't read...
 
FYI, what set me off this morning was this article on TechPowerUps where an editor was desperately trying to justify the GeForce Titan as competing with Sony's PS4.  It is the most insane BS I've ever read; the idea that nVidia would bring PC gaming back with a $700+ graphics card against the masses that would otherwise purchase a $350 console sounds like something a PC purist wealthy enough to keep up with technology wants to hear.  It is 180-degrees from reality because the masses wouldn't purchase such a graphics card, the mass tend to get GTX650's; sadly there will be morons in here that buy into that logic because they already think highly of their purchases.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 10:03:32 (permalink)
I actually prefer my 670 value vs. cost over my 680's. And agree with a lot of your comments. However, until Nvidia makes anything official your comments, any website and all others are of little value beyond entertainment value. 
 
Quite frankly, I think the 600 series is one of the best series ever produced for consumers. And think the cats meow for $$ makers is in the $250 range. NOT $700... $700 is the hype/propaganda maker, the $200-$350 GPU'S are the money makers the masses purchase. 
 
And the wise ones skip a generation(s). I am not one of the smart ones. I have this hobbie and enjoy new tech to much to wait it out....

 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 10:31:49 (permalink)
Can anyone guess if the gtx 780s will be stronger the titan or not?  Wondering if I should hold out or not for a 780 upgrade or a titan upgrade
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 11:30:32 (permalink)
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Are none of you prepared for the worse (that it doesn't exist) only to hope for the best?  It is unhealthy, and there still aren't any other independent source outside sweclockers (even videocardz sources them for God's sake); what is up with you guys?  Sweclockers made up the original price of $899 as a "guesstimation", i.e. not a leak, yet every other rumormill that sources them refers to it as intended or nVidia price or MSRP-- did you guys not catch that?   I will not accept the cop-out excuse that these are all just "rumors"-- very few react as if on the fence; some of you believe in this too easily.

Whoever started this rumor, probably an author at sweclockers, plain copied K20X specs directly; there is no "failed Tesla to become a GeForce" theory here; a 2688-CUDA core GPU will not compensate for a 732MHz base clock, it is like some of you aren't thinking:  

2688-core multiplied by 732MHz = 1536-core multiplied by 1281MHz-- if any of you have your GTX680's up that high, congratulations:  You have a Titan, do the math yourself, it is that simple.  

Even wccftech selectively picked the K20 pictures from Chiphell that don't show the Tesla brand despite mentioning that they were K20's, as if to imply something to those that don't read...

FYI, what set me off this morning was this article on TechPowerUps where an editor was desperately trying to justify the GeForce Titan as competing with Sony's PS4.  It is the most insane BS I've ever read; the idea that nVidia would bring PC gaming back with a $700+ graphics card against the masses that would otherwise purchase a $350 console sounds like something a PC purist wealthy enough to keep up with technology wants to hear.  It is 180-degrees from reality because the masses wouldn't purchase such a graphics card, the mass tend to get GTX650's; sadly there will be morons in here that buy into that logic because they already think highly of their purchases.

I definitely agree that the probability of the Titan being a complete hoax is there.  But I think the possibility that if it is not true then the truth of the GTX700 series being delayed until the fall is also a complete hoax considering there is no way NVIDIA would let the GTX600 series ride for almost 2 full years without releasing any card.  So if both those rumors are true I could possibly make sense of the two rumors together.  Although it seems kinda planned out, make the PC enthusiast crowd believe they are stuck with the GTX600 series for another year and if they REALLY want to upgrade they need to make the financial stretch to buy a Titan to increase its sales as much as conceivably possible.  But otherwise it is all BS and the GTX700 series will be released in the next couple months.  Irregardless I have come into a well paying job now that I have finished my education at Rutgers and these two GTX275s 1792MB cards need to be replaced when I finish paying off my loans in April.  If these rumored Titan cards launch I might even buy two Classified versions, otherwise I am getting the top of the line single GPU cards available that launch next.  Not looking for value anymore, just cards that can run as many games as possible at 1600p max settings with 8xAA supersampling or higher.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 11:46:18 (permalink)
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I actually prefer my 670 value vs. cost over my 680's. And agree with a lot of your comments. However, until Nvidia makes anything official your comments, any website and all others are of little value beyond entertainment value

Quite frankly, I think the 600 series is one of the best series ever produced for consumers. And think the cats meow for $$ makers is in the $250 range. NOT $700... $700 is the hype/propaganda maker, the $200-$350 GPU'S are the money makers the masses purchase. 

And the wise ones skip a generation(s). I am not one of the smart ones. I have this hobbie and enjoy new tech to much to wait it out....

 
And I'm entertained.  I'm looking forward to the GTX700 series and the "Titan" card, and the real performance benchmark numbers.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 12:02:05 (permalink)
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Can anyone guess if the gtx 780s will be stronger the titan or not?  Wondering if I should hold out or not for a 780 upgrade or a titan upgrade 
 
Givin the Titan card is for real, I wouldnt count on the GTX780 being faster unless the GTX780 turns out to be Maxwell.  Dont hold your breath.

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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 12:19:22 (permalink)
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2688-core multiplied by 732MHz = 1536-core multiplied by 1281MHz-- if any of you have your GTX680's up that high, congratulations:  You have a Titan, do the math yourself, it is that simple.   
 
 
I have been thinking about that as well while reading the various rumors. My 680 cards will run a minimum of 1202 MHz and one card will run at over 1300 MHz. Assuming the Titan card is setup with 2688-cores, NVIDIA would have to increase the core frequency substantially past 732 MHz in order for there to be any significant performance increase over the 680 cards. The K20x already has a TDP of 235w and I am not sure how much headroom NVIDIA has to increase the frequency while keeping the power consumption and heat output at reasonable levels. Perhaps disabling some of the double precision functionality can help to save a bit on power as the K20/x GPU has very much been beefed up for processing these kind of calculations. The Titan exceeding the performance of a 690 seems even more unrealistic as the 690 is basically two 680s on a single card with a total of 16 SMX units, 8 per GPU.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 15:43:56 (permalink)
The fact nvidia hasn't said anything fuels it more.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/05 19:01:40 (permalink)
EVGA... you must know.  It wouldn't really hurt your NDA if you told me you liked dolphins.... do you like dolphins?  Yes?  No?

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Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 01:06:47 (permalink)
OMG!  I can't wait to hear real (not rumored) reviews of this card.
EVGA, please take my money!  
 
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Re:Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 01:42:16 (permalink)
It's rumored price point is above what I want to pay, so it's unlikely I'll ever get one, should be nice for those who want to set records however.
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Re:Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 05:32:39 (permalink)
Hard to get excited over rumors.
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Re:Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 05:35:16 (permalink)
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Hard to get excited over rumors.


+1 to this.


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Re:Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 09:52:55 (permalink)
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Hard to get excited over rumors.


+1 to this.

 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/06 09:55:40 (permalink)
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Are none of you prepared for the worse (that it doesn't exist) only to hope for the best?  It is unhealthy, and there still aren't any other independent source outside sweclockers (even videocardz sources them for God's sake); what is up with you guys?  Sweclockers made up the original price of $899 as a "guesstimation", i.e. not a leak, yet every other rumormill that sources them refers to it as intended or nVidia price or MSRP-- did you guys not catch that?   I will not accept the cop-out excuse that these are all just "rumors"-- very few react as if on the fence; some of you believe in this too easily.

Whoever started this rumor, probably an author at sweclockers, plain copied K20X specs directly; there is no "failed Tesla to become a GeForce" theory here; a 2688-CUDA core GPU will not compensate for a 732MHz base clock, it is like some of you aren't thinking:  

2688-core multiplied by 732MHz = 1536-core multiplied by 1281MHz-- if any of you have your GTX680's up that high, congratulations:  You have a Titan, do the math yourself, it is that simple.  

Even wccftech selectively picked the K20 pictures from Chiphell that don't show the Tesla brand despite mentioning that they were K20's, as if to imply something to those that don't read...

FYI, what set me off this morning was this article on TechPowerUps where an editor was desperately trying to justify the GeForce Titan as competing with Sony's PS4.  It is the most insane BS I've ever read; the idea that nVidia would bring PC gaming back with a $700+ graphics card against the masses that would otherwise purchase a $350 console sounds like something a PC purist wealthy enough to keep up with technology wants to hear.  It is 180-degrees from reality because the masses wouldn't purchase such a graphics card, the mass tend to get GTX650's; sadly there will be morons in here that buy into that logic because they already think highly of their purchases.

 
QFT. And honestly, regarding whether or not this will even amount to a product that goes to market, what you just stated would make sense as to why Nvidia cracked the whip hard against any sort of volt mods. If my 680 classifieds are running at 1400mhz, there's a good chance that's more power than one may ever be able to get out of a Titan. And I really doubt they're going to drop something much more powerful than that before the 7xx series (and I doubt even more that this would be the 7xx series). That doesn't make sense from their own price/performance standpoint either. However it does make sense that they would want to limit 680 voltages (and clocks ultimately) to allow for introduction of a slightly faster card into the market to again produce a new "flagship" card.
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Re:Anticipating the GeForce Titan 2013/02/06 12:31:58 (permalink)
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kram36
Hard to get excited over rumors.


+1 to this.


No need to get excited, but it's fun to dream. Especially about that new CM case.

What new case?
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/06 21:12:50 (permalink)
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blacksapphire08 
There is nothing about that screenshot that indicates it could be a GTX 780, more likely to be some kind of dual GPU card (690) or 2 GTX 680's in SLI.
Someone appears to have tried to analyze the screenshot and it does look like a 690 under there, but it is really fuzzy.
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I'm gonna laugh if this all turns out to be the same fanboys sourcing each other for information on this thing and there is no real hardware to be seen. 
+1, except it is more like a facepalm on my side, on how gullible people are.  If you can believe it, this whole thing started because of this.  Someone took the mention of "GeForce GK110" in parenthesis to be a confirmation-- as if EK was in the loop. 

Nah...this GK110 consumer card stuff started last summer if not before.
 
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/06 23:10:50 (permalink)
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blacksapphire08 
There is nothing about that screenshot that indicates it could be a GTX 780, more likely to be some kind of dual GPU card (690) or 2 GTX 680's in SLI.
Someone appears to have tried to analyze the screenshot and it does look like a 690 under there, but it is really fuzzy.
Brad_Hawthorne 
I'm gonna laugh if this all turns out to be the same fanboys sourcing each other for information on this thing and there is no real hardware to be seen. 
+1, except it is more like a facepalm on my side, on how gullible people are.  If you can believe it, this whole thing started because of this.  Someone took the mention of "GeForce GK110" in parenthesis to be a confirmation-- as if EK was in the loop. 

Nah...this GK110 consumer card stuff started last summer if not before.

http://techreport.com/rev...-gk110-graphics-chip/3

Thats exactly why I even have hope for this release.  But, if the jump in performance from NVIDIA's next release isnt up to expectations regardless of if its a GK110 or w/e they release instead of GK110; I will just pick up a used card to hold me over until Maxwell.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/07 04:04:22 (permalink)
Has someone heard what video outputs Ti780 might have? I'm somewhat interested in this card (single chip=better minimum fps, >2G VRAM=not texture memory limited@hires like 690 was) as maybe first so-so acceptable for UHD gaming. Cheapest UHD monitor seems Sharp PN-K321 one (32", ~ 5500$), with DisplayPort 1.2 and HDMI 1.4 (dual, for UHD 60fps), - wondering if Ti780's stock outputs will be up to job without some expensive 3rd party adapter trickery.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/07 05:42:05 (permalink)
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/07 07:54:18 (permalink)
Some of you couldn't tell if that supposed GTX780 picture from an obscure Arab site I found a few months back was real, so have a look at it again.  Do you still feel the same given the circumstances, or does it reinforce an unyielding faith?  If it did, why would I give a reason to believe when even I don't? Contributing to your entertainment perhaps? At least that picture doesn't blatantly say Tesla in green letters like those photos from Chiphell.
 
At least ArabPCWorld recognizes that the performance leaks for GTX780 (the point for this thread) are indeed fake
 
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The fact nvidia hasn't said anything fuels it more.
It goes both ways, nVidia has never officially commented or reacted to any rumor, so anyone can use that to mean anything they want given historical trends of eventual truths and proven false rumors.  Now I wonder if the claim of GTX700 and HD8000 being delayed to Q4 was done to incite a response by both AMD and nVidia, a la Broadwell being soldered?  Problem is because neither company has yet to captialize on a rumor about the other, there is no threat to each other's business by such a rumor.  Intel reacted to AMD, which bought into the rumor; Intel didn't respond to the rumor.
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2688-core multiplied by 732MHz = 1536-core multiplied by 1281MHz-- if any of you have your GTX680's up that high, congratulations:  You have a Titan, do the math yourself, it is that simple.
 
I have been thinking about that as well while reading the various rumors. My 680 cards will run a minimum of 1202 MHz and one card will run at over 1300 MHz. Assuming the Titan card is setup with 2688-cores, NVIDIA would have to increase the core frequency substantially past 732 MHz in order for there to be any significant performance increase over the 680 cards.
...and the caveat I haven't mentioned was memory bandwidth.  The 256-bit interface didn't bother GK104 against HD7970, but this "Titan" is expected to have 40% more bandwidth and more than 2GB-- are the GK104's being held back?  How high have you gotten your GTX680's Vram frequency up to increase the bandwidth, was any initial performance increase seemingly linear with increase in bandwidth (implying a true bandwidth bottleneck)?
 
Per Andrew_K's thought above, rather than to rebrand a Tesla K20X and loose 80% premium, a factory overclock using refreshed or optimized GK104 (GK114?) die is the least wasteful approach to a GTX780.  That was 580 was to 480, a refresh with another cluster enabled, and all of you bought into it to some degree.  I could say a 3GB K20X with the same base clock would dive to around 210W, and raising the clock raised to 1GHz could put it closer to 240W-- reasonable considering GTX280 at 236W-- with an estimated performance of around 50% faster than GTX680.  But where is the competitor to justify it?  nVidia would only be replacing their own GTX680/GTX690 sales, which I bet are cheaper to produce.  Believe me I've tried buying into this rumor so many times, LEAN keeps kicking in; can't ignore the economy, can't ignore the competition.

Of course, I'm sure AMD could respond with another GHz Ed move too, already their Richland APU parts look to be rebranded Trinity with higher frequencies.  Considering their OEM graphics have been quietly rebranded outright, what is stopping nVidia from doing the same thing by rebranding OEM and making retail marginally better, what if they already are?  If it wasn't for Haswell's debut this year, I would have believed in the Q4 2013 delay rumor by both companies, the evidence is suggestive.
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Re:First NVIDIA GeForce Titan 780 Performance Numbers Revealed 2013/02/07 12:23:43 (permalink)

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