ComboSlicer
Got asus z690 hero, 12900K, corsair ddr5 and cannot build because still waiting 4 corsair mounting screws because of socket 1700
 
Chip shortage yet cabnnot build due to missing screws

rjbarker
 
Does that Maximus Board not have the dual offset mounting holes (whereby no special screws required)?
Curious as my Apex Board has these dual offset mounting holes.
 
I was under the asumption that all Asus Maximus boards had this feature.

rjbarker

badboy64
Well I hope eVga can get a motherboard out by at-least by mid-January. Otherwise I can just send the i9 12900KF back to Amazon before January 31st hits so I can get a refund.

Are you solely stuck on an Evga Board, curious as there are some great options out there!

badboy64

rjbarker

badboy64
Well I hope eVga can get a motherboard out by at-least by mid-January. Otherwise I can just send the i9 12900KF back to Amazon before January 31st hits so I can get a refund.

Are you solely stuck on an Evga Board, curious as there are some great options out there!

Yes I am. I always had great experiences with eVga motherboards.

CraptacularOne

charlesborner
Just put a 5950X machine together earlier this year.

I, personally, see no need for a 12th gen system.
If I wanted more power, I'd probably step up to Threadripper/Pro or Epyc.

Anyone really on anything from 5ish years ago platforms doesn't "need" to upgrade at all, as those platforms and CPUs (Ryzen 2000 series and Intel 8000 series) are still all perfectly viable in games and a lot of productivity tasks. This isn't really about what one "needs" as much as what one "wants" because there is a difference. Some people just like to have the latest things to tinker around with, myself included. 
 
You sound like you're more interested in productivity tasks like rendering/encoding if your path would be to move to a slower IPC (instructions per clock) architecture but more cores platform like Threadripper or Epyc. Games even today just don't care about much more than 6 cores in the vast majority of instances. Hell, even a fast quad core with SMT (4 core, 8 thread) CPU could play the vast majority of todays games with zero issues. More cores/threads is beneficial to things like tile based rendering or heavy compute tasks, cores don't really have any impact on games past a certain point. It's all about IPC and frequency for games for the most part. For people mainly interested in gaming that's where 12th gen is appealing since it currently offers the highest IPC and the highest frequency which directly benefits gamers with high end hardware looking to reach more untapped potential. 

blaise

redteamgo
 
any anecdotal feedback on that Kingston RAM?  4800mhz sounds like a rocket ship.
 

Not much to say, my old rig was 9900K & DDR4 3600MHz CL18 so it does seem quite a bit snappier (don't try setting 1T timings though - it fails to boot). I attempted to run AIDA64 memory benchmarks but it keeps complaining about an unsupported "Alder-S" motherboard (and this is using the license that comes with the Z690 Hero and downloaded through Armor Crate). Apart from that, I've run a few 3DMARK and managed to jump into the HOF with a few (one in the top 10).

rjbarker

CraptacularOne

charlesborner
Just put a 5950X machine together earlier this year.

I, personally, see no need for a 12th gen system.
If I wanted more power, I'd probably step up to Threadripper/Pro or Epyc.

Anyone really on anything from 5ish years ago platforms doesn't "need" to upgrade at all, as those platforms and CPUs (Ryzen 2000 series and Intel 8000 series) are still all perfectly viable in games and a lot of productivity tasks. This isn't really about what one "needs" as much as what one "wants" because there is a difference. Some people just like to have the latest things to tinker around with, myself included. 
 
You sound like you're more interested in productivity tasks like rendering/encoding if your path would be to move to a slower IPC (instructions per clock) architecture but more cores platform like Threadripper or Epyc. Games even today just don't care about much more than 6 cores in the vast majority of instances. Hell, even a fast quad core with SMT (4 core, 8 thread) CPU could play the vast majority of todays games with zero issues. More cores/threads is beneficial to things like tile based rendering or heavy compute tasks, cores don't really have any impact on games past a certain point. It's all about IPC and frequency for games for the most part. For people mainly interested in gaming that's where 12th gen is appealing since it currently offers the highest IPC and the highest frequency which directly benefits gamers with high end hardware looking to reach more untapped potential. 

 
This is "perfectly" said n explained......its about the speed ...coming soon...still waiting on my DDR5...have a pre-order in for some Kingston Fury 5200 C40.....its about all I can get my mitts on here in Canada....

What I'm seeing common on most forums is many 5900 / 5950X users downplaying this new Intel chip...whether it be heat...power consumption, price, availability of DDR5..latency of DDR5 (comparing it to current DDR4 is pointless and moot) etc....well many of us are "power users" :)
This upgrade is 9900k MXI-E to Alder Lake...do I "need to upgrade", absolutely not, I just "want" to ;) As like most Intel CPU's, its all about tinkering n OC'ing!
 
The 1200i is an older "testing psu", once this goes into my case w loop its all powered by my AX1600i
 
The 240 AIO is strictly for setting this up on my work bench..always do this first..make sure everything works, install OS, customize desktop, install my Apps...test n play for a few days, then disassemble and re-install in my 900D with multiple Rads...Fans ...custom loop.
 
The physical weight of the ATX Apex Board defines the robust (ness) ..lol of the components,,,unbelievably heavy for ATX (vs E-ATX)....24+0 105 Amps of goodness ;) A new Velocity 2 Block is on its way from Slovania.
 

 
 
 

Flybye

.... Hell, even a fast quad core with SMT (4 core, 8 thread) CPU could play the vast majority of todays games with zero issues.......

Ya mean like me and my little 3770k? 
Most games actually do run fine...for now.   It's only with Cyberpunk that I get serious lag in certain areas around 30-50 fps, and that is only in certain areas with a lot of activity. And Cyberpunk pegs my 3770k at over 95%.  Heck, I could go out to the desert and get a silky smooth 70+.  At least with Alder, faster DDR5 eventually coming out, PCIE 5.0 and max ram of 128GB, I should be okay for about another decade or so.  Plus the fact that I can't install Windows 11, and there WILL come the day when a game is only designed for Windows 11.
 

rjbarker
 
This is "perfectly" said n explained......its about the speed ...coming soon...still waiting on my DDR5...have a pre-order in for some Kingston Fury 5200 C40.....its about all I can get my mitts on here in Canada....

What I'm seeing common on most forums is many 5900 / 5950X users downplaying this new Intel chip...whether it be heat...power consumption, price, availability of DDR5..latency of DDR5 (comparing it to current DDR4 is pointless and moot) etc....well many of us are "power users" :)
This upgrade is 9900k MXI-E to Alder Lake...do I "need to upgrade", absolutely not, I just "want" to ;) As like most Intel CPU's, its all about tinkering n OC'ing!
 
The 1200i is an older "testing psu", once this goes into my case w loop its all powered by my AX1600i
 
The 240 AIO is strictly for setting this up on my work bench..always do this first..make sure everything works, install OS, customize desktop, install my Apps...test n play for a few days, then disassemble and re-install in my 900D with multiple Rads...Fans ...custom loop.
 
The physical weight of the ATX Apex Board defines the robust (ness) ..lol of the components,,,unbelievably heavy for ATX (vs E-ATX)....24+0 105 Amps of goodness ;) A new Velocity 2 Block is on its way from Slovania.
 

 
 

DEJ915
90% of people aren't going to be able to get the memory ICs in that pic though lol since only micron is available right now.

DEJ915
90% of people aren't going to be able to get the memory ICs in that pic though lol since only micron is available right now.

rjbarker
 
so plan is to utilize both M.2_1 for 980 500G boot Drive and M.2_2 for 980 1TB Gaming Drive...from what I understand I can populate both those M.2 Slots and still get x16 out of PCI-E_1 slot....which is perfect!
 
I have another Sammy 500G SATA Drive (for utilities n crap) then my 6TB Media NAS Drive (WD Red).
Its the weight of that Board that blew me away....I think its heavier than my old Extreme E-ATX Board.
 
Im kinda hoping for the same numbers you got..all P-Cores to 52....E-Cores hoping for 40-41...Cache (Ring) 46-48.....as far the Kingston Fury kit, I know nothing about Kingston kits...I have either had in the past Dominators (never let me down) and the last decent DDR4 kit was 4*8G Gskill Royals 4000 C17.
Their simply is nothing available here north of the 49th right now...nothing..nada ..!
 
With this Daisy Chain Topography of this chip set / mobo, made the most sense to go Apex vs Extreme this time around (2 DIMM vs 4 DIMM), considering both OC'ing and in all honesty the price....the Apex was $850 CDN vs the Extreme at $1350 CDN.
 
As much as I was tempted about 6 months ago to ditch my 9900K for a 5950X, I knew Alder Lake was around the corner and really wanted to "wait n see".....besides, I think it would be a bit of a learning curve trying to OC that AMD chip...for myself OC'ing a new Intel chip is like Christmas AM!