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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 07:38:54
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kymag1c22
Yes, only been using the 2 cables because this photo
and because my PSU only came with 2 pcie cables so that was my only option, it's the ssr-750fx model. Either way, I will reply back once I have the 3rd cable next week.
Thanks!
kymag1c22
Yes, only been using the 2 cables because this photo
and because my PSU only came with 2 pcie cables so that was my only option, it's the ssr-750fx model. Either way, I will reply back once I have the 3rd cable next week.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 08:35:58
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 09:19:58
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I contacted seasonic and they said my PSU might be affected by the issues outlined here as it was manufactured during the transition process to v2. They said to try the 3rd cable and if I still have issues to submit an RMA to get a newer PSU.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 12:13:44
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I re-arranged my Seasonic connection per recommendation from Seasonic themselves. This is for a Seasonic 850Watt Prime Ultra Titanium paired with RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra  
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 13:16:17
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Hammajangd
Funny, I actually ended up purchasing The 1000w g3 cause I figured better to be higher on the W lol
They say you want to run the PSU at 50% for optimal performance. 400W for a GPU (3080 FTW3 Ultra current max) and 120W for a 9700/10700k and you're there. Who knows where you'll be in 3 years, maybe with a i9 or a #090 Ti. Ideally my PSU / case will live through a hardware refresh or two.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 14:44:26
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I really don't think it's his power supply specifically. I have a seasonic 750w which is a quality brand but it's also shutting down. It's evident that a 750w PSU isn't enough for both the 9900k and 3080.
Certain PSU models can't handle the transient power spikes of the 3080's and 3090's.
Even some 850W units are shutting down....
We know the EVGA GA and some Seasonic Primes and Focus also shut down.
The ones we know work are, so far:
EVGA G2, P2, T2;
Corsair RMX, RMI, HX, and HXI.
I have an evga 750gq but i dont have my xc3 ultra yet. Are there any problems with that model?
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 15:44:15
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Hmm getting worried if i have to replace my tm850m corsair. With all these problems i am seeing
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 15:52:04
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I have a pretty old FSP Aurum Pro 850W running my my 3080 FTW3 Ultra with a 10700k with no issues. Think the secret is having the 3 separate 12v PCIE cables going into the card, with no splitting or daisy chaining.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 15:57:28
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warrior6I have an evga 750gq but i dont have my xc3 ultra yet. Are there any problems with that model?
I didn't encounter any issues with mine. FWIW, I was using 3 cables.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 15:59:14
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slapn
Hmm getting worried if i have to replace my tm850m corsair. With all these problems i am seeing
I talked to someone on a discord yesterday running that PSU, fwiw they hadn't encountered any issues. I can't remember which card they were on specifically though.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 16:03:43
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End of last year i have smoked a new ultra prima titanium 1000w in 3 weeks. Benching a single newly bought 2080ti for fun. Same issue. I got my money back and was only able to find the new TX series in stock to buy as a replacement. So far so good.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 17:19:25
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warrior6
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I really don't think it's his power supply specifically. I have a seasonic 750w which is a quality brand but it's also shutting down. It's evident that a 750w PSU isn't enough for both the 9900k and 3080.
Certain PSU models can't handle the transient power spikes of the 3080's and 3090's.
Even some 850W units are shutting down....
We know the EVGA GA and some Seasonic Primes and Focus also shut down.
The ones we know work are, so far:
EVGA G2, P2, T2;
Corsair RMX, RMI, HX, and HXI.
I have an evga 750gq but i dont have my xc3 ultra yet. Are there any problems with that model?
I saw one 850W GQ that was working so far so you might be OK.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 18:13:45
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I'm having an issue with a 3090 FE and an EVGA GA 850W PSU. Start trying to play a game and hear a click and the PC turns off with only the RAM illuminated with rgb still. The computer doesn't turn on again until I toggle the switch on the PSU.
Do I need a new PSU?
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 18:21:50
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ngaugler
Hammajangd
Funny, I actually ended up purchasing The 1000w g3 cause I figured better to be higher on the W lol
They say you want to run the PSU at 50% for optimal performance. 400W for a GPU (3080 FTW3 Ultra current max) and 120W for a 9700/10700k and you're there. Who knows where you'll be in 3 years, maybe with a i9 or a #090 Ti. Ideally my PSU / case will live through a hardware refresh or two.
Yup! I’m running a i7-10700k right now but using my ancient 1050ti. Can’t wait to get this 3080.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 18:23:04
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Limitin
I'm having an issue with a 3090 FE and an EVGA GA 850W PSU. Start trying to play a game and hear a click and the PC turns off with only the RAM illuminated with rgb still. The computer doesn't turn on again until I toggle the switch on the PSU.
Do I need a new PSU?
I have that same psu. And from what I have read and researched it won’t work. I just ordered a new one to be safe
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 18:39:35
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Read through all of these, throwing in my $.02 since most said RM850x should be good to go. Not the case if refurb'd, I think.
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra AND a refurb'd RM850x on the same day. Installed, everything ran fine for 6-7 hours. Next day, random PC shutdowns and PSU trips (have to flip the switch off and on to reboot). I'm pretty sure it's the PSU since it's refurb'd, but not 100% sure until I replace it and run it. CPU and GPU temps run 60's when playing COD.
DDU'd the drivers, reseated the GPU as well as the 4 sticks of 8gb ram (1 first, then the other 3 after reinstall drivers and reboot)
Specs:
MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk
Ryzen 7 3700X
3080 FTW3 Ultra
Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4x8 PC3600
Corsair RM850x (refurb'd)
No OC'ing (first PC built since '05), not even playing any games and it will shut down.
If not the PSU, what else could it be?
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 20:12:27
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Bizmaniz
Read through all of these, throwing in my $.02 since most said RM850x should be good to go. Not the case if refurb'd, I think.
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra AND a refurb'd RM850x on the same day. Installed, everything ran fine for 6-7 hours. Next day, random PC shutdowns and PSU trips (have to flip the switch off and on to reboot). I'm pretty sure it's the PSU since it's refurb'd, but not 100% sure until I replace it and run it. CPU and GPU temps run 60's when playing COD.
DDU'd the drivers, reseated the GPU as well as the 4 sticks of 8gb ram (1 first, then the other 3 after reinstall drivers and reboot)
Specs:
MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk
Ryzen 7 3700X
3080 FTW3 Ultra
Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4x8 PC3600
Corsair RM850x (refurb'd)
No OC'ing (first PC built since '05), not even playing any games and it will shut down.
If not the PSU, what else could it be?
Well I hope its just because its a refurb because I have that exact PSU. I just bought it like 2 months ago. Mine is brand new though not a refurb. I will be so pissed if it doesn't work when I eventually get my 3080. What do you plan on replacing it with? Well good luck hope you get it figured out.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 20:17:43
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JayManB
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Read through all of these, throwing in my $.02 since most said RM850x should be good to go. Not the case if refurb'd, I think.
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra AND a refurb'd RM850x on the same day. Installed, everything ran fine for 6-7 hours. Next day, random PC shutdowns and PSU trips (have to flip the switch off and on to reboot). I'm pretty sure it's the PSU since it's refurb'd, but not 100% sure until I replace it and run it. CPU and GPU temps run 60's when playing COD.
DDU'd the drivers, reseated the GPU as well as the 4 sticks of 8gb ram (1 first, then the other 3 after reinstall drivers and reboot)
Specs:
MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk
Ryzen 7 3700X
3080 FTW3 Ultra
Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4x8 PC3600
Corsair RM850x (refurb'd)
No OC'ing (first PC built since '05), not even playing any games and it will shut down.
If not the PSU, what else could it be?
Well I hope its just because its a refurb because I have that exact PSU. I just bought it like 2 months ago. Mine is brand new though not a refurb. I will be so pissed if it doesn't work when I eventually get my 3080.
What do you plan on replacing it with?
Well good luck hope you get it figured out.
Just thought to replace my white modcables with the stock cables, could be those too but we'll see. I'm not sure what I'm going to go with, I'll see what they have in the store tomorrow. I know they have some RM850's (non x) so I might grab that if they don't have a 1000 watt.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/15 20:22:40
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Bizmaniz
JayManB
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Read through all of these, throwing in my $.02 since most said RM850x should be good to go. Not the case if refurb'd, I think.
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra AND a refurb'd RM850x on the same day. Installed, everything ran fine for 6-7 hours. Next day, random PC shutdowns and PSU trips (have to flip the switch off and on to reboot). I'm pretty sure it's the PSU since it's refurb'd, but not 100% sure until I replace it and run it. CPU and GPU temps run 60's when playing COD.
DDU'd the drivers, reseated the GPU as well as the 4 sticks of 8gb ram (1 first, then the other 3 after reinstall drivers and reboot)
Specs:
MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk
Ryzen 7 3700X
3080 FTW3 Ultra
Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4x8 PC3600
Corsair RM850x (refurb'd)
No OC'ing (first PC built since '05), not even playing any games and it will shut down.
If not the PSU, what else could it be?
Well I hope its just because its a refurb because I have that exact PSU. I just bought it like 2 months ago. Mine is brand new though not a refurb. I will be so pissed if it doesn't work when I eventually get my 3080.
What do you plan on replacing it with?
Well good luck hope you get it figured out.
Just thought to replace my white modcables with the stock cables, could be those too but we'll see. I'm not sure what I'm going to go with, I'll see what they have in the store tomorrow. I know they have some RM850's (non x) so I might grab that if they don't have a 1000 watt.
Everyone I asked said the stock cables just provide better ripple protection because of the built in Caps. They also said it wouldn't be a big enough difference to worry about but who knows with the 3080s. These cards are starting to look pretty picky about their PSUs.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/16 09:52:55
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Just wanted to add my input because I just installed a 3080 FTW3 Ultra last night and everything worked out of the box. DDU'd everything first since I was coming from a 5700XT. Downloaded latest drivers straight from Nvidia. Downloaded PX1 and everything works so far. I haven't been able to check the OSD since it does say only for certain games. No overclock or undervolting yet. Just straight out of the box, installed, then played for an hour and a half of Warzone and Black Ops, everything ultra/high and enabled at 2k, min / max FPS between 130s to 170s. Sorry, not really concrete numbers, I was too excited to start gaming with it.
I received one crash error, but I was playing Black Ops Beta when it happened, so I'm not sure. But it only closed the game, no shut down or black screen. No power issues otherwise with a two year old Seasonic Prime PSU.
Specs: (everything bought at the beginning of this year if that matters)
Asus Prime X570 Pro
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (No OC)
G.Skill Trident Z 32gb (2x16) 3600
2x Corsair MP600 1tb NVME SSDs
Seasonic Prime 1300W Gold (bought in 2018)
P.S. I don't believe that certain brands of PSU can handle these cards any better than a competitor. You-get-what-you-pay-for, sure, but so far all the issues seem to come from those with a little bit of headroom power-wise from the recommendation of Nvidia (750W). So certain brands might be able to regulate better than others given the low headroom. I do believe that a large overhead is needed for these cards. That's just my personal opinion. I emailed Seasonic about the issues I've seen on these forums and they assured me that my PSU can handle the power spikes of these new 3000 series cards. They didn't say what the floor output should be though, so I took that with some grain of salt. I'm also using generic braided cables from Asiahorse, connecting three completely separate power cables from the PSU to the GPU for the three power connectors. Everything worked fine last night. Time will tell if everything continues to work smoothly (fingers crossed). Going to put a little core and mem boost tonight and adjust the voltage curve, we'll see what happens.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/16 13:51:20
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JayManB
Bizmaniz
JayManB
Bizmaniz
Read through all of these, throwing in my $.02 since most said RM850x should be good to go. Not the case if refurb'd, I think.
Got my 3080 FTW3 Ultra AND a refurb'd RM850x on the same day. Installed, everything ran fine for 6-7 hours. Next day, random PC shutdowns and PSU trips (have to flip the switch off and on to reboot). I'm pretty sure it's the PSU since it's refurb'd, but not 100% sure until I replace it and run it. CPU and GPU temps run 60's when playing COD.
DDU'd the drivers, reseated the GPU as well as the 4 sticks of 8gb ram (1 first, then the other 3 after reinstall drivers and reboot)
Specs:
MSI MAG x570 Tomahawk
Ryzen 7 3700X
3080 FTW3 Ultra
Crucial Ballistix 32gb 4x8 PC3600
Corsair RM850x (refurb'd)
No OC'ing (first PC built since '05), not even playing any games and it will shut down.
If not the PSU, what else could it be?
Well I hope its just because its a refurb because I have that exact PSU. I just bought it like 2 months ago. Mine is brand new though not a refurb. I will be so pissed if it doesn't work when I eventually get my 3080.
What do you plan on replacing it with?
Well good luck hope you get it figured out.
Just thought to replace my white modcables with the stock cables, could be those too but we'll see. I'm not sure what I'm going to go with, I'll see what they have in the store tomorrow. I know they have some RM850's (non x) so I might grab that if they don't have a 1000 watt.
Everyone I asked said the stock cables just provide better ripple protection because of the built in Caps. They also said it wouldn't be a big enough difference to worry about but who knows with the 3080s. These cards are starting to look pretty picky about their PSUs.
Update: replaced psu with a seasonic 850w titanium. Running a solid 2 hours now, Ran prime95 and Heaven, also played some COD. no issue so far.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/16 15:01:14
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Bizmaniz
Update: replaced psu with a seasonic 850w titanium. Running a solid 2 hours now, Ran prime95 and Heaven, also played some COD. no issue so far.
Have you tried overclocking it with the new PSU. I have a brand new Seasonic Platinum Prime 850TX and am contemplating bumping that up to a Seasonic Prime 1000TX. Not planning to be very aggressive on OC, but plan to try a modest OC. Would appreciate any thoughts you might have on whether I need to upgrade to the 1000.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/16 16:06:28
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arestavo
A shut off/restart indicates that the power supply can't handle it, or the video card is being pushed too high (usually overclocking - I've actually had this happen on my 3090 FTW3).
Test in another computer (friends/repair shop), test a different power supply.
If you cannot do either, RMA the card. If the problems persist, RMA the power supply.
This could potentially also be an issue with PSU cable extensions. I recently had an issues where the PCIE 8pin and 6pin extension cables going to my RTX2080 where causing the card to crash. System wouldn't dump, the GPU dumped and lose signal. This could also be the motherboard VRM's going bad. In your case I highly doubt it though since your system isn't very old. I've seen this happen before on older MBs. I would Chalk this up to either the PSU cable extensions (if in use) or the PSU itself.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/21 20:27:52
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I had loads of problems using that Corsair memory in my rog z370. I would get random lock ups which led to a reset. At the time I thought it was related to my 2080ti FE.
Since moving over to patriot viper, 2 X 16gig it's been rock solid.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 10:17:52
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Are you connected to a UPS? check your UPS wattage output if you have one, I was also having this issue, but now I JUST PLUGGED TO SURGE INSTEAD OF BATTERY
Current Daily Driver:
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 10:53:45
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I just bought a EVGA GA 850w PSU just over a month ago and hearing that it's having issues with a 3080 has me concerned. Like, am I screwed? I can't return it. I don't have a 3080 yet, but once I do, what am I supposed to do if I get random restarts? Just chalk it up as a loss? That seems preposterous for a product I paid over $200 CAD for and is less than 2 months old.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 10:58:37
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arkarsenal85
I just bought a EVGA GA 850w PSU just over a month ago and hearing that it's having issues with a 3080 has me concerned. Like, am I screwed? I can't return it. I don't have a 3080 yet, but once I do, what am I supposed to do if I get random restarts? Just chalk it up as a loss? That seems preposterous for a product I paid over $200 CAD for and is less than 2 months old.
Well, that PSU has no professional teardown/testing reviews yet. Some PSUs handle transient power spikes better than others, the GA is just one that doesn't. Always best to research a PSU before buying it, no professional reviews, just plain don't buy it. I don't care what it is or what company made it or sells it. If you do get a 3080 and the PSU does shut down the GA will still be in warranty.
post edited by jankerson - 2020/10/22 11:08:41
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 11:22:16
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arkarsenal85
I just bought a EVGA GA 850w PSU just over a month ago and hearing that it's having issues with a 3080 has me concerned. Like, am I screwed? I can't return it. I don't have a 3080 yet, but once I do, what am I supposed to do if I get random restarts? Just chalk it up as a loss? That seems preposterous for a product I paid over $200 CAD for and is less than 2 months old.
Which processor do you have. I think if you have a i7, recommended is 750W. i9 is 850W. I dont know about AMD processors though. I had the same make/model as you *EDIT* I had a 750W. I bought a Corsair RM1000X and all my problems disappeared.
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vexorian87
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 11:35:52
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EVGA 750GA All 3 separate cables.
This might be your problem? My 3090 FTW3 Ultra is currently pulling 486w playing RDR2. I haven't measured total system draw yet but it has to be well over 800w with my 9900k and other misc devices. Your system draw might be spiking closer to that PSUs limit than it likes.
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Re: FTW3 Ultra Shutting down PC
2020/10/22 11:40:35
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vexorian87
WraithDecay
EVGA 750GA All 3 separate cables.
This might be your problem? My 3090 FTW3 Ultra is currently pulling 486w playing RDR2. I haven't measured total system draw yet but it has to be well over 800w with my 9900k and other misc devices.
Your system draw might be spiking closer to that PSUs limit than it likes.
About 700W gaming load maybe total from the PSU to the system. Max total system would be around 750W. That's not including power spikes.
i9 9900K @ 5.0 GHz, NH D15, 32 GB GSKILL Trident Z RGB, AORUS Z390 MASTER, EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, Steel Series APEX PRO, Logitech Gaming Pro Mouse, CM Master Case 5, Corsair AXI 1600W. i7 8086K, AORUS Z370 Gaming 5, 16GB GSKILL RJV 3200, EVGA 2080TI FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB, (2)SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500 GB, Acer Predator XB1 XB271HU, Corsair HXI 850W. i7 8700K, AORUS Z370 Ultra Gaming, 16GB 16GB DDR4 3000, EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Ultra, Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Corsair HX 850W.
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