Hey, everyone! So I'm having a bit of a display dilemma. I've been using an LG 27" 4k IPS panel for a couple years now. Got it on an unbelievable price from Sam's Club. They had sold all the boxed displays, and I ended up snagging the demo model for $135. It has been a good display, and I honestly do more photo editing on it than gaming. In fact, gaming is probably one of the things that takes the least amount of my computer usage time. That said, I still want it to be good when I DO get the chance to game, of course!
 
It is freesync compatible, but not super fast at only 75hz. It has still been pretty good for gaming. Very low input latency/lag. It does everything well that you'd expect from a good IPS panel - viewing angles, good brightness even during daytime (large windows in the home office), and of course color accuracy is excellent. The rub is that using Samsung phones for years, and having my 2nd generation of HP Spectre x360 laptop with an OLED display has straight up opened my eyes to amazing black levels. VA panels get you better black levels, but they don't have the viewing angles of IPS. But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd probably rather have better black levels, as usually only one or two of us are working on the computer at the same time. When gaming, it's usually only me or one of the kids. There's not really room at that desk spot for more than one chair. 
 
For my left and right displays (the 27" is in the center) I have two 22.5 business class Samsung LED backlit displays. They have height adjustment and rotate 90 degrees. They have zero backlight bleed, unlike the Dell LCDs I had there before. I like the Samsungs much better. Ideally, I'd like to get a center 4k display that's bigger than my 27", and then rotate the side displays to portrait. A friend of mine did this once, and I thought it was amazing! Something in the 40" range would be idea, and have the right height to look nice centered between the two portrait rotated Samsungs, but 4k displays jump from 32" (which isn't quite tall enough - it would look funny!) to 43" it seems. A 43" would be ok in my scenario, I believe, especially if it has good characteristics for photo editing and general computer usage.
 
I would LOVE to go OLED, but they don't make a 43" version that I'm aware of. 48" is just too big for this desk and how far away I can sit and still reach the mouse and keyboard. I actually tried a 50" Vizio that was mega cheap on sale at Costco last year. I figured it would be WAY to big to use as a monitor, but I was incredibly impressed with the black levels. It has the Quantum dot tech, which is Vizio's answer to Samsung's QLED, I believe. 
 
Samsung QLED TVs are also an option, and they have great black levels too, and I think they even make a 43". One advantage the Vizio had, however, was support for HDMI 2.1, which would allow very nice high refresh rates. The QLEDs from Samsung seem to be stuck on 2.0, even the newest 2020 models. Also, for some inexplicable reason, the entire QLED lineup will go on sale frequently ... EXCEPT THE BLITHERING 43" MODEL. Seriously. What the flip ... anyways, there are also some 42.5 inch photo editing displays from HP and LG and Dell, but they are more expensive than a QLED 43" LCD, and they are usually IPS panels. I think HP makes one that is a VA panel, but it tops out at 60hz. 
 
Any suggestions or experiences from anyone out there? I'd prefer to do triple monitors rather than a giant ultrawide. I have far more real estate for far less money than someone would spend on the Samsung super wide monitors. I don't fault someone for buying one of those, by any means, but for as much editing and productivity as I do, the triple monitor setup makes a whole lot more sense- financially and practically. It will be powered by my current Nvidia card, and hopefully by a future 3080, should I ever have my turn in the queue or luck out at a retailer. I am thinking of getting something now in the 42-43" range to take with me to Texas while I'm at tech school down there for several months, and then bring it back with me to replace the 27" LG as my primary display. 
 
I am open and appreciative of any of your opinions and experiences. Thanks in advance!

reolik
Greetings! Can I somehow find out my position in the queue? I understand that there are a lot of people, but I have been waiting since January 2, and I would like to know how much longer I have to wait.

Which card(s) are you signed up for?
 
This page gets updated most days with movement.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NrR71ipaJktCzT1pWj9FWxNHGWAbcxMorvRvEPaPh48/edit
 

SirKronan
Hey, everyone! So I'm having a bit of a display dilemma. I've been using an LG 27" 4k IPS panel for a couple years now. Got it on an unbelievable price from Sam's Club. They had sold all the boxed displays, and I ended up snagging the demo model for $135. It has been a good display, and I honestly do more photo editing on it than gaming. In fact, gaming is probably one of the things that takes the least amount of my computer usage time. That said, I still want it to be good when I DO get the chance to game, of course!
 
It is freesync compatible, but not super fast at only 75hz. It has still been pretty good for gaming. Very low input latency/lag. It does everything well that you'd expect from a good IPS panel - viewing angles, good brightness even during daytime (large windows in the home office), and of course color accuracy is excellent. The rub is that using Samsung phones for years, and having my 2nd generation of HP Spectre x360 laptop with an OLED display has straight up opened my eyes to amazing black levels. VA panels get you better black levels, but they don't have the viewing angles of IPS. But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd probably rather have better black levels, as usually only one or two of us are working on the computer at the same time. When gaming, it's usually only me or one of the kids. There's not really room at that desk spot for more than one chair. 
 
For my left and right displays (the 27" is in the center) I have two 22.5 business class Samsung LED backlit displays. They have height adjustment and rotate 90 degrees. They have zero backlight bleed, unlike the Dell LCDs I had there before. I like the Samsungs much better. Ideally, I'd like to get a center 4k display that's bigger than my 27", and then rotate the side displays to portrait. A friend of mine did this once, and I thought it was amazing! Something in the 40" range would be idea, and have the right height to look nice centered between the two portrait rotated Samsungs, but 4k displays jump from 32" (which isn't quite tall enough - it would look funny!) to 43" it seems. A 43" would be ok in my scenario, I believe, especially if it has good characteristics for photo editing and general computer usage.
 
I would LOVE to go OLED, but they don't make a 43" version that I'm aware of. 48" is just too big for this desk and how far away I can sit and still reach the mouse and keyboard. I actually tried a 50" Vizio that was mega cheap on sale at Costco last year. I figured it would be WAY to big to use as a monitor, but I was incredibly impressed with the black levels. It has the Quantum dot tech, which is Vizio's answer to Samsung's QLED, I believe. 
 
Samsung QLED TVs are also an option, and they have great black levels too, and I think they even make a 43". One advantage the Vizio had, however, was support for HDMI 2.1, which would allow very nice high refresh rates. The QLEDs from Samsung seem to be stuck on 2.0, even the newest 2020 models. Also, for some inexplicable reason, the entire QLED lineup will go on sale frequently ... EXCEPT THE BLITHERING 43" MODEL. Seriously. What the flip ... anyways, there are also some 42.5 inch photo editing displays from HP and LG and Dell, but they are more expensive than a QLED 43" LCD, and they are usually IPS panels. I think HP makes one that is a VA panel, but it tops out at 60hz. 
 
Any suggestions or experiences from anyone out there? I'd prefer to do triple monitors rather than a giant ultrawide. I have far more real estate for far less money than someone would spend on the Samsung super wide monitors. I don't fault someone for buying one of those, by any means, but for as much editing and productivity as I do, the triple monitor setup makes a whole lot more sense- financially and practically. It will be powered by my current Nvidia card, and hopefully by a future 3080, should I ever have my turn in the queue or luck out at a retailer. I am thinking of getting something now in the 42-43" range to take with me to Texas while I'm at tech school down there for several months, and then bring it back with me to replace the 27" LG as my primary display. 
 
I am open and appreciative of any of your opinions and experiences. Thanks in advance!

Honestly, I’m surprised you’d rather go TN if you do photo editing. My understanding has always been that IPS is better than TN for colour accuracy. That’s why I went with an IPS for my gaming monitor. To help us give you a recommendation though, what kind of gaming do you do? Is it mainly competitive multiplayer or single player story driven? Because tbh, most people care more about frames than resolution when it comes to competitive - pros with crazy pc setups will game at 1080p and then their settings down in favour of max frame rate. But if you’re doing mainly single player, I’d go for the highest resolution and best colour representation that you can. You can still notice frame rate differentials once it gets past 60, but I don’t think it takes away from the gameplay much if you’re at least consistent at 60. Consoles used to be maxed out at 60 anyways so if it was good enough then, it should still be good enough now. I can’t say much about QLED because so far only one company “actually” makes those (I think). You can find some nice comparison videos and explanations though!
Remember guys, this is all just my opinion so please be nice. I’m not a professional 😅 and apologies if I didn’t address all of your points, it was a long OP haha

I got a bridged cable from Mainframe custom for much less then the other company's charge if all you want is the 3x 8 pin cable
though you have a few weeks to wait for it to be made though since they are busy with only a 2 man crew lol

jbaysingar
I've resigned myself to waiting for my queue notification (BB never lets me add anything to the cart, Newegg is actively trolling its customers, and B&H just sends me emails telling me things *aren't* in stock ), but it's going to be a while since I didn't sign up until 11/29 so I figure I might as well get in on the PSU conversation while I wait.
 
My previous PSU was semi-modular with the only PCI-E cables being two hard-wired 6-pins. So, in anticipation of (someday) getting a 3080 FTW3, I upgraded to a Thermaltake ToughPower PF1 Platinum 850W that's fully modular and came with 3 6+2-pin PCI-E cables. I considered going up to a 1000W, but given that I'm running a stock 9900X on a 280 AIO, and I don't plan to push the FTW3 past the factory OC, I figured I should be okay with 850 and there was no need to spend the extra money on available wattage I wasn't going to use.

 
That should be good for your needs.

Whats special about LG nano ips tech?

TheRealMikeVan

SirKronan
Hey, everyone! So I'm having a bit of a display dilemma. I've been using an LG 27" 4k IPS panel for a couple years now. Got it on an unbelievable price from Sam's Club. They had sold all the boxed displays, and I ended up snagging the demo model for $135. It has been a good display, and I honestly do more photo editing on it than gaming. In fact, gaming is probably one of the things that takes the least amount of my computer usage time. That said, I still want it to be good when I DO get the chance to game, of course!
 
It is freesync compatible, but not super fast at only 75hz. It has still been pretty good for gaming. Very low input latency/lag. It does everything well that you'd expect from a good IPS panel - viewing angles, good brightness even during daytime (large windows in the home office), and of course color accuracy is excellent. The rub is that using Samsung phones for years, and having my 2nd generation of HP Spectre x360 laptop with an OLED display has straight up opened my eyes to amazing black levels. VA panels get you better black levels, but they don't have the viewing angles of IPS. But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd probably rather have better black levels, as usually only one or two of us are working on the computer at the same time. When gaming, it's usually only me or one of the kids. There's not really room at that desk spot for more than one chair. 
 
For my left and right displays (the 27" is in the center) I have two 22.5 business class Samsung LED backlit displays. They have height adjustment and rotate 90 degrees. They have zero backlight bleed, unlike the Dell LCDs I had there before. I like the Samsungs much better. Ideally, I'd like to get a center 4k display that's bigger than my 27", and then rotate the side displays to portrait. A friend of mine did this once, and I thought it was amazing! Something in the 40" range would be idea, and have the right height to look nice centered between the two portrait rotated Samsungs, but 4k displays jump from 32" (which isn't quite tall enough - it would look funny!) to 43" it seems. A 43" would be ok in my scenario, I believe, especially if it has good characteristics for photo editing and general computer usage.
 
I would LOVE to go OLED, but they don't make a 43" version that I'm aware of. 48" is just too big for this desk and how far away I can sit and still reach the mouse and keyboard. I actually tried a 50" Vizio that was mega cheap on sale at Costco last year. I figured it would be WAY to big to use as a monitor, but I was incredibly impressed with the black levels. It has the Quantum dot tech, which is Vizio's answer to Samsung's QLED, I believe. 
 
Samsung QLED TVs are also an option, and they have great black levels too, and I think they even make a 43". One advantage the Vizio had, however, was support for HDMI 2.1, which would allow very nice high refresh rates. The QLEDs from Samsung seem to be stuck on 2.0, even the newest 2020 models. Also, for some inexplicable reason, the entire QLED lineup will go on sale frequently ... EXCEPT THE BLITHERING 43" MODEL. Seriously. What the flip ... anyways, there are also some 42.5 inch photo editing displays from HP and LG and Dell, but they are more expensive than a QLED 43" LCD, and they are usually IPS panels. I think HP makes one that is a VA panel, but it tops out at 60hz. 
 
Any suggestions or experiences from anyone out there? I'd prefer to do triple monitors rather than a giant ultrawide. I have far more real estate for far less money than someone would spend on the Samsung super wide monitors. I don't fault someone for buying one of those, by any means, but for as much editing and productivity as I do, the triple monitor setup makes a whole lot more sense- financially and practically. It will be powered by my current Nvidia card, and hopefully by a future 3080, should I ever have my turn in the queue or luck out at a retailer. I am thinking of getting something now in the 42-43" range to take with me to Texas while I'm at tech school down there for several months, and then bring it back with me to replace the 27" LG as my primary display. 
 
I am open and appreciative of any of your opinions and experiences. Thanks in advance!

Honestly, I’m surprised you’d rather go TN if you do photo editing. My understanding has always been that IPS is better than TN for colour accuracy. That’s why I went with an IPS for my gaming monitor. To help us give you a recommendation though, what kind of gaming do you do? Is it mainly competitive multiplayer or single player story driven? Because tbh, most people care more about frames than resolution when it comes to competitive - pros with crazy pc setups will game at 1080p and then their settings down in favour of max frame rate. But if you’re doing mainly single player, I’d go for the highest resolution and best colour representation that you can. You can still notice frame rate differentials once it gets past 60, but I don’t think it takes away from the gameplay much if you’re at least consistent at 60. Consoles used to be maxed out at 60 anyways so if it was good enough then, it should still be good enough now. I can’t say much about QLED because so far only one company “actually” makes those (I think). You can find some nice comparison videos and explanations though!
Remember guys, this is all just my opinion so please be nice. I’m not a professional 😅 and apologies if I didn’t address all of your points, it was a long OP haha

 
Of course I appreciate your viewpoint! I don't think I said TN panel ... I think I said VA. TN is not even on my radar! And your reasons seem very similar to mine - color accuracy and viewing angles. VA can get pretty darn good at color these days, but is not there with viewing angles. Maybe for now I'll just stick with IPS and get one of the new 42.5 inch editing displays. They have low input lag, which will be fine for gaming the way I game. Yes, editing is definitely the bigger priority! I just drool over the black levels on my OLED phones and laptop, and I'm blown away by the black levels on Samsung's QLED and Vizio's Quantum dot TVs. I suppose I'm looking to "have my cake and eat it, too" if possible, lol. I'm not a crazy competitive pro. I occasionally play some DOTA 2 online, but that's about as competitive as I get. 

AncientGael

SirKronan
Hey, everyone! So I'm having a bit of a display dilemma. I've been using an LG 27" 4k IPS panel for a couple years now. Got it on an unbelievable price from Sam's Club. They had sold all the boxed displays, and I ended up snagging the demo model for $135. It has been a good display, and I honestly do more photo editing on it than gaming. In fact, gaming is probably one of the things that takes the least amount of my computer usage time. That said, I still want it to be good when I DO get the chance to game, of course!
 
It is freesync compatible, but not super fast at only 75hz. It has still been pretty good for gaming. Very low input latency/lag. It does everything well that you'd expect from a good IPS panel - viewing angles, good brightness even during daytime (large windows in the home office), and of course color accuracy is excellent. The rub is that using Samsung phones for years, and having my 2nd generation of HP Spectre x360 laptop with an OLED display has straight up opened my eyes to amazing black levels. VA panels get you better black levels, but they don't have the viewing angles of IPS. But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd probably rather have better black levels, as usually only one or two of us are working on the computer at the same time. When gaming, it's usually only me or one of the kids. There's not really room at that desk spot for more than one chair. 
 
For my left and right displays (the 27" is in the center) I have two 22.5 business class Samsung LED backlit displays. They have height adjustment and rotate 90 degrees. They have zero backlight bleed, unlike the Dell LCDs I had there before. I like the Samsungs much better. Ideally, I'd like to get a center 4k display that's bigger than my 27", and then rotate the side displays to portrait. A friend of mine did this once, and I thought it was amazing! Something in the 40" range would be idea, and have the right height to look nice centered between the two portrait rotated Samsungs, but 4k displays jump from 32" (which isn't quite tall enough - it would look funny!) to 43" it seems. A 43" would be ok in my scenario, I believe, especially if it has good characteristics for photo editing and general computer usage.
 
I would LOVE to go OLED, but they don't make a 43" version that I'm aware of. 48" is just too big for this desk and how far away I can sit and still reach the mouse and keyboard. I actually tried a 50" Vizio that was mega cheap on sale at Costco last year. I figured it would be WAY to big to use as a monitor, but I was incredibly impressed with the black levels. It has the Quantum dot tech, which is Vizio's answer to Samsung's QLED, I believe. 
 
Samsung QLED TVs are also an option, and they have great black levels too, and I think they even make a 43". One advantage the Vizio had, however, was support for HDMI 2.1, which would allow very nice high refresh rates. The QLEDs from Samsung seem to be stuck on 2.0, even the newest 2020 models. Also, for some inexplicable reason, the entire QLED lineup will go on sale frequently ... EXCEPT THE BLITHERING 43" MODEL. Seriously. What the flip ... anyways, there are also some 42.5 inch photo editing displays from HP and LG and Dell, but they are more expensive than a QLED 43" LCD, and they are usually IPS panels. I think HP makes one that is a VA panel, but it tops out at 60hz. 
 
Any suggestions or experiences from anyone out there? I'd prefer to do triple monitors rather than a giant ultrawide. I have far more real estate for far less money than someone would spend on the Samsung super wide monitors. I don't fault someone for buying one of those, by any means, but for as much editing and productivity as I do, the triple monitor setup makes a whole lot more sense- financially and practically. It will be powered by my current Nvidia card, and hopefully by a future 3080, should I ever have my turn in the queue or luck out at a retailer. I am thinking of getting something now in the 42-43" range to take with me to Texas while I'm at tech school down there for several months, and then bring it back with me to replace the 27" LG as my primary display. 
 
I am open and appreciative of any of your opinions and experiences. Thanks in advance!

To add to the advice given above, it seems to me gaming is very much a secondary usage for you. Any advice would be dependent on what type of gaming you do. It sounds to me as if you need very high resolution, for your productivity applications. Very high resolutions like 4/8 K mean your gpu is taxed and so can't pump out as many frames. So in gaming it's a tradeoff. Most pros (as stated above) stick to 1080p 240hz, because in shooters or other similar twitch skill games, frames are king. Always.
 
Up until recently that meant for most serious shooter players they had to go with a TN. A year or so ago some really fast high refresh IPS gaming panels came onto the market. Asus/LG/Gigabyte/ and Acer all have models, and they are on the expensive side. I picked one up about a year ago, and it's a 1440 27 inch 144hz IPS. Honestly it's fantastic, you have to think about resolution and screen size, you really don't want to be running anything over a 27 inch at 1080p. The image quality goes to hell, and that's why hardcore shooter players stick with a 24 inch as well.
 
1440/144hz at 27 inch is pretty much a perfect balance in that sense for me, for gaming and general use. The IPS gaming panels really are taking it to the next level in providing that quality.
 
Lastly it all has to be paired with a GPU that can drive your monitor at it's peak performance. That's where cards like the new 30 series are a leap forward, they can put out the grunt needed to drive high refresh high resolution. In short, it's usually always a tradeoff between resolution which is alson image quality/panel size/ and refresh rate, you need to put each of those in order of priority, then make your decision based on that, plus knowing the horse power of your gpu.
 

8K is not on my radar. Not even a little bit. I still author some video content in 1080p. Most of my video jobs are from clients that don't have much in the way of 4k yet, and they're thrilled how good their stuff looks in 1080p. I have a 1650 Super in my tower now. I did have a 3070 founders edition in it before, and I can actually notice a delay and some stutter on my 4k display in the center, and I don't understand why. I'm not gaming, this is just regular desktop tasks like web browsing. There's a perceptible delay on mouse movement and even typing on the keyboard. Why would that be? My PC is practically idle right now, but this delay is enough that it's driving me a little crazy ... wondering if it's my HDMI cable, since the side monitors are still perfectly smooth ... It's an old HDMI cable, but it was a high quality one at the time. 
 
Anyways, the goal is to ultimately have a 3080. I was hoping to hold out for a 3080ti hybrid, but the "ti" is on hold indefinitely now, so I'm just shooting for the 3080 now. I do use CUDA for rendering and video content conversion, and it usually performs exceedingly well. For anything software-rendered, the 5900X just flies. 
 
Right now I'm leaning towards a Samsung QLED 43" (if they ever decide to include that particular size in their sales) or the HP 42.5 inch IPS display, which is literally made for editing. The nice thing about the QLED, is that at least there is some higher refresh rate possibilities there if I want to try at resolutions like 1440p, and the black levels are fantastic. It works great as a display in "gaming mode" as it shuts off all enhancements and runs it with no input lag. 
 
Which do you think would be better in the long run? Samsung QLED or HP 42.5? (there are a couple of other 42.5 models in the same ilk as the HP, so it doesn't have to be the HP specifically. I'd probably just get whichever one is on the best sale at the time.) 
 
Thanks to both of you for the feedback!! It is super helpful. Whatever I buy, it's not like it's going to go to waste. Between my wife and I, we are a blended family with a total of nine children, most of which are big into technology and would get good use out of any hand-me-down displays in the future. 

AncientGael

CptT95
Whats special about LG nano ips tech?

To sum it up, the tech they are using in the gaming IPS panels, gives you the low latency high refresh of a TN with none of the tradeoffs. TNs tend to have limited viewing angles. It's not only LG making them, although their panels get rave reviews.

This one looks perfect, except it appears to not actually exist yet. It even has local dimming, which is very rare and very helpful. The smallest nano-cell I can find that you can actually buy are 49". Too big for the desk. The biggest nano-cell PC monitor is 32" unless you go ultrawide, which won't work for what I'm doing. Looks like I'm limited to either QLED 43" or a 42.5" monitor. Vizio made a very affordable 43" quantum dot competitor to the Samsung QLED, but it doesn't exist anymore either. Sold out everywhere, including Vizio's website. A shame, because I have the 50", and it is fantastic. Even has HDMI 2.1 for wicked fast refresh rates. Colors really pop, and black levels are noticeably deeper than my LG IPS monitor. It would be a LOT cheaper than a QLED or a 42.5" monitor, too. 
 
Edit: forgot the link - https://www.lg.com/ph/tvs/lg-43UM7500PPA

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/the-frame/32-class-the-frame-qled-hdr-smart-tv-2020-qn32ls03tbfxza/
what about this one?

tskrzynecki
Getting closer in the queue. This has to be the most painful building process ever

 
Yeah and it won't get better for months and months and months to come. Eth mining is getting better not worse. a 3060ti earns 60 x 7.76 cents = $4.65 a day if you have high power cost it uses 4 kwatts at 40 cents = $1.60 in power. which means it clears $3 a day at worst If you have 10 cent power cost it clears  4.65-0.40 = $4.25 a day.  Demand will be high as long as a 3060ti card profits 3-4.25 a day.  I suspect  we don't see this clear out until the fall.

tskrzynecki
Wow I thought mining had slowed down

 
BTC slowed ETH is going up. It got to 8 cents a mh or 4.80 usd for a 3060ti dropped to 6.9 cents or 4.14 usd now back to 7.76 cents or 4.65 a card
 
A 500 dollar card making 4 bucks a day after power cost  pays off in 125 days.  My guess is NVIDIA is diverting chips to noname basic mining cards and short changing companies like evga msi asus etc.  Tom's hard ware had an article on the release of a mining 3060ti card. coming out next week.  My guess is the other gaming card companies got less chips.  All of the info above is not proven. But it all fits.
 
link here
https://www.tomshardware....tx-3060-ti-miner-cards
 
 
Eth hash rate is at all time high 344,284 gh or 5,508,544.
 
 3060ti cards if it were all that card. we know it is a lot of other gpus, but it is sucking up cards.
 
that hash rate is on https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

Wondering if I should mine when I get new card while at work

Dabadger84
Just keep in mind, there's no way of knowing if prolonged mining will cause damage on these cards - there were a lot of cards several years ago that were mined on excessively & when they were resold on EBay by the miners during a value-crash, had a very high failure rate - specifically the R9 290/290X type of cards, and the NVidia counterpart cards.
If you do choose to mine on your card, I would recommend doing an undervolt & downclocking the vRAM a little bit as well to be safe, especially on 3090s since the vRAM on the back can get quite warm, and depending on what your mining, it can actually put more stress on the vRAM than the GPU core itself.

 
If I ever get some 3060ti's I will be building mining/gaming rigs.  I would prefer them as the 3060ti can do 60mh at 130 watts.
The 3080 needs 220-230 watts to do 95-100 mh.  I would fear mining a 3080 at 220-230 watts in a sealed rig. Long term heat is hard on a card. 220-230 watts is hot.

I mined with 20 EVGA 1080Ti SC/SC2 GPUs from summer 2017 through November 2020.  So 3.5 years running 24/7 with power set to about 76% (180 watts) and core at +120 and memory at +600.  Not a single failure during that period and I sold them all during November/December and not a single return or unhappy customer.  The only issue I had, was that after 3.5 years, oil from the thermal pads has been released and it was a pain to clean up to make the cards look nice and fresh again.
 
Agree that one has to be careful mining with 3090's due to the VRAM on the backside.  I have a KingPin and I had to add heat sinks on the back along with a fan to get the temps down to mid 70's on the RAM.  I posted about it here.

CptT95
How long would it take a 3080 to pay back for itself 😒🤔
Where card cost is 850 after taxes

About 30 seconds if you scalp it ;)

JK. PLEASE don't do that.