mikev19

SirKronan
 
 
The answer is Best Buy and Newegg are both significantly better than the queue for every single person that has been able to buy an MSRP (or near MSRP) GPU there before their turn has come up in the queue, and that is thousands and thousands of people. I was able to buy my CPU from Best Buy LONG before anywhere else had meaningful stock of the 5900X. So for me, the Best Buy system has been a blessing. 
 

Does Best Buy's checkout process actually have a specific queuing system which would hold your place in line as you try to check out?  I've heard multiple different answers from multiple different people and haven't been able to get through the checkout process because it keeps saying that there are no Best Buy stores within 250 miles of my location, which is strange because I literally have two different Best Buy stores, both within 10 miles of my house.  Best Buy said if you get a message about the 250 mile thing, that's because the item is already out of stock.
 
And the Newegg Shuffle is a joke.  I call total 'BS' on the fact that it's "completely random" because I've entered over 70 times and haven't been selected once, yet several people who have either recently or previously purchased high-dollar items from them were "coincidentally" selected either a few times per month and some a few times per week.  That is just not statistically possible.

BB allocates the cards to a region, a card is not marked for your region, or they have sold the 2 they allocated for your region, you get the message.
It is a way for the stores to get credit for the sales, get you in the store might buy someingth else, and make marketing look good.

I've been playing this one game for 26 years.  I cannot advertise it here, because we are in evga please sell me some hardware land.  Which I am waiting patiently for.  It's text based, no gpu will make it great.  Ping me if if you would like to give it a try.  Evga may still delete this post, but whatever.

CptT95
Actually it's the other way lmao, sadistic dishes it out and masochist likes getting it rough 😆🤣

I knew your young self would be on this.

50 shades of grey it sounds like.

Me either, but it seems appropriate.

Larac

mikev19

SirKronan
 
 
The answer is Best Buy and Newegg are both significantly better than the queue for every single person that has been able to buy an MSRP (or near MSRP) GPU there before their turn has come up in the queue, and that is thousands and thousands of people. I was able to buy my CPU from Best Buy LONG before anywhere else had meaningful stock of the 5900X. So for me, the Best Buy system has been a blessing. 
 

Does Best Buy's checkout process actually have a specific queuing system which would hold your place in line as you try to check out?  I've heard multiple different answers from multiple different people and haven't been able to get through the checkout process because it keeps saying that there are no Best Buy stores within 250 miles of my location, which is strange because I literally have two different Best Buy stores, both within 10 miles of my house.  Best Buy said if you get a message about the 250 mile thing, that's because the item is already out of stock.
 
And the Newegg Shuffle is a joke.  I call total 'BS' on the fact that it's "completely random" because I've entered over 70 times and haven't been selected once, yet several people who have either recently or previously purchased high-dollar items from them were "coincidentally" selected either a few times per month and some a few times per week.  That is just not statistically possible.

BB allocates the cards to a region, a card is not marked for your region, or they have sold the 2 they allocated for your region, you get the message.
It is a way for the stores to get credit for the sales, get you in the store might buy someingth else, and make marketing look good.

Yes, BB is allocated regionally, which makes no sense because the ship all the cards and they don’t tell you if it’s available in your region. What worked for me was using multiple devices. I had 3 different cards in 3 different carts (pc, mobile website and the app). All 3 lit yellow for the second queue, but only one would let me get to checkout (happened to be the mobile site). It took 27 minutes from first queue to checkout, if you refresh at all you lose your spot in the queue. I also set my store location to the largest city near me, not sure if that helped at all, but that’s what discord said to do.

grumpyh005

Larac

mikev19

SirKronan
The answer is Best Buy and Newegg are both significantly better than the queue for every single person that has been able to buy an MSRP (or near MSRP) GPU there before their turn has come up in the queue, and that is thousands and thousands of people. I was able to buy my CPU from Best Buy LONG before anywhere else had meaningful stock of the 5900X. So for me, the Best Buy system has been a blessing. 

Does Best Buy's checkout process actually have a specific queuing system which would hold your place in line as you try to check out?  I've heard multiple different answers from multiple different people and haven't been able to get through the checkout process because it keeps saying that there are no Best Buy stores within 250 miles of my location, which is strange because I literally have two different Best Buy stores, both within 10 miles of my house.  Best Buy said if you get a message about the 250 mile thing, that's because the item is already out of stock.
 
And the Newegg Shuffle is a joke.  I call total 'BS' on the fact that it's "completely random" because I've entered over 70 times and haven't been selected once, yet several people who have either recently or previously purchased high-dollar items from them were "coincidentally" selected either a few times per month and some a few times per week.  That is just not statistically possible.

BB allocates the cards to a region, a card is not marked for your region, or they have sold the 2 they allocated for your region, you get the message.
It is a way for the stores to get credit for the sales, get you in the store might buy someingth else, and make marketing look good.

Yes, BB is allocated regionally, which makes no sense because the ship all the cards and they don’t tell you if it’s available in your region. What worked for me was using multiple devices. I had 3 different cards in 3 different carts (pc, mobile website and the app). All 3 lit yellow for the second queue, but only one would let me get to checkout (happened to be the mobile site). It took 27 minutes from first queue to checkout, if you refresh at all you lose your spot in the queue. I also set my store location to the largest city near me, not sure if that helped at all, but that’s what discord said to do.

With the regional distribution you're supposed to be racing less people for a card.  Unfortunately the distribution doesn't seem to be equal among stores or proportional to population.  In this last BB drop in Canada, I'm not even sure there was any cards in half of the country.  Even the one before that there was maybe a dozen of one card in my region. I have 6 full BB stores very close by, and at least another 8 within 250 miles.

Sounds like something Newegg would do !

In before they discover this also effects certain games that are GPU memory intensive & they have to undo it with an updated BIOS or some crap :-P
 
Either way, they are doing this waaaaaaaaaaaay
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too late.  The damage is already done.  There are probably hundreds of thousands of GPUs out there already from both the 20- & 30-series as well as AMD's 5000 & 6000 series that are in mining rigs.  Whenever the mining bubble bursts again and the used market gets saturated with all those cards, AMD & NVidia both will feel the bane of their ignoring this problem for too long when suddenly their new GPUs are sitting on the shelves because people that had been waiting over a year for a GPU got one used on EBay for 50% or less of the normal price.
 
I actually got in that action the last time I was in the market for GPUs & a mining burst hit, got a whole crapton of R9 290s & R 290Xs for less than half what they retailed for on EBay and almost all of them ran perfectly fine.  I had 2 Folding @ Home rigs at the time & was running up to 7 GPUs at once, one of them was QuadFire for part time gaming part time folding.
 
I get where regular people are coming from getting in on the mining craze, but realistically the market damage and damage to NVidia & AMD's reputation has already been done by these big operations buying swaths of regular gaming GPUs because they're were more available than the CMP lines. 

Dabadger84
In before they discover this also effects certain games that are GPU memory intensive & they have to undo it with an updated BIOS or some crap :-P
 

Please, don't ruin my hopes!
I really hope that LHR chips will make a difference.
....
 

I know that AMD stocks also suffer from availability, but is mining more productive or as productive on AMD boards than Nvidia? Or AMD partners just produced lesser Units than Nvidia?
I saw that the prices are big in AMD country and stocks are not there, but I don't see as much as AMD stock threads on forums, more like shops not receiving units.
 
Also, I really don't think any major partner will modify their existing 3080's or further 3080's by using those new chips or software to stop mining. Especially software where you just don't update it.
It's cool what Galax done, but way too late, and I don't know how many people will buy Galax.

So it's confirmed that the limiter is coming to the 3080 series too?

Cheemonstonzo

Dabadger84
In before they discover this also effects certain games that are GPU memory intensive & they have to undo it with an updated BIOS or some crap :-P
 
Either way, they are doing this waaaaaaaaaaaay
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too late.  The damage is already done.  There are probably hundreds of thousands of GPUs out there already from both the 20- & 30-series as well as AMD's 5000 & 6000 series that are in mining rigs.  Whenever the mining bubble bursts again and the used market gets saturated with all those cards, AMD & NVidia both will feel the bane of their ignoring this problem for too long when suddenly their new GPUs are sitting on the shelves because people that had been waiting over a year for a GPU got one used on EBay for 50% or less of the normal price.
 
I actually got in that action the last time I was in the market for GPUs & a mining burst hit, got a whole crapton of R9 290s & R 290Xs for less than half what they retailed for on EBay and almost all of them ran perfectly fine.  I had 2 Folding @ Home rigs at the time & was running up to 7 GPUs at once, one of them was QuadFire for part time gaming part time folding.
 
I get where regular people are coming from getting in on the mining craze, but realistically the market damage and damage to NVidia & AMD's reputation has already been done by these big operations buying swaths of regular gaming GPUs because they're were more available than the CMP lines. 

I too have concerns that the LHR will hurt some games and semi-professional applications.  If nothing else, this will make the lower-end GPUs like the 1660S/Ti all but impossible for budget gamers to get a hold of as these will become the MH/W kings of the new GPUs.  And this is ignoring the fact that GPU MSRP across the board have increased since the 2000 series, essentially forcing many gamers to mine in order to offset the increase.  This will also continue to price more people out of the PC market and have even further negative long-term effects on every manufacturer in the PC space.

I think that new Limiter thing is affecting all 30 series dies, so all cards in that sector are lowered hashed now, we will see.

As any other manufacturer, in any and all manufacturing field, eVGA reserves the right to make changes to their product line at any time. No waive, nor new queue is needed.

Time will tell how it unfolds.