static.quai

zeeesooor
Well I'm hours away too from 3897, and yet to be specific I'm 4 hours away from my queue and it's so painful. Man look at 3987 got 34 hours drop today, like why the 3897 almost not even excited in those drops for the past 5 weeks bro like what in the world going on. I'm so bored and exhausted because as everyone here we almost 7 months waiting for our queue to get the notification. 😪😪😪😪😪

The 3987 didn't move 34 hours because they dropped a ton of cards.  It moved that much because not many people signed up for it.  I guesstimate that somewhere between 1:50 and 1:100 report back to this queue.  I don't follow reddit or twitter close enough to adjust upwards on total notifies, but given there were only two people who reported back on the 3987 here, while there were over half a dozen on the 3657 (for < 50s of total movement)?  It's not like 3987 rained, it was just a time when a lot of people didn't want to sign up for a 3090.  Bad value, yada yada.
 
If you want to complain, just complain about your specific SKU not moving.  I cannot fault anyone feeling frustrated about that.  Comparing whatever dropped to what you want that hasn't dropped is fruitless.  I wish you the best of luck, but there is a simple and well known method for how to avoid these kind of risks.  Diversify.

johcamp21
bummed i missed the bstock drop man. was working in the yard. How do you guys find out about these things? I have checked the b-stock page religiously for the last couple weeks. guess I just have terrible timing.

kusanhagi
Just for clarification, the 3090 and 3080 chips are the cream of the crop and silicon that doesn't meet spec can end up as 3060 or 3070 varients.
That's why those sku's may seem like they get more movement.
At least that is what I have been led to believe by "experts" in the hardware space.

femu19
Seems like EU hasn´t received any 3060 or 3060 ti since the last two weeks, or did I miss something?
 
Does anyone of you know how long it takes to produce such a card? Just to get a rough feeling how long those dry phases might last...
 
 

xeddex

Bora1114
The issue with 20 series production is a lot of people didn't want the cards bc they already had pascal. I doubt production of 20 series or even 30 series is anywhere close to pascal at its peak. 

That's something I think many people miss or don't completely comprehend.  The entire 20 series was a "pass" for a whole lot of people (myself included).  20 series was 10 series performance with their first attempt at raytracing bolted on and DLSS was nowhere near what it is now.  Unless you just wanted a "new shiny" you probably passed entirely on 20 series.  So people who stuck with 10 series performance had 10 series performance and folks that bought 20 series performance still had near 10 series performance.  So now 30 series comes out and "woo hoo! real performance and DLSS has matured into something folks want".  So the demand for 30 series was a combination of the extreme pent up demand due to both the 10 and 20 series having near the same performance.

xeddexUnless you just wanted a "new shiny" you probably passed entirely on 20 series.  ...  So now 30 series comes out and "woo hoo! real performance and DLSS has matured into something folks want".  So the demand for 30 series was a combination of the extreme pent up demand due to both the 10 and 20 series having near the same performance.

Jimmy81I think even that oversimplifies things a little bit. You're not wrong but it's also a supply shortage on virtually every level in the logistics chain starting with the raw materials themselves.

staypuft

CptT95
Meaning a 3080 ti with full chip but less ram is possible 😒🤔
Or 3090 ti for 2k msrp FE edition

Yes, it is possible to see versions with that one TPC enabled, so a full chip.  The performance gain would be minimal on a 3090 vs more significant on a 3060.
 
Makes me wonder if a full GA106 is coming at some point.  Too bad Nvidia used the 3060Ti name already to market their cut down 3070.  Should have been 3070 SE, or better yet the 3060Ti should have been named 3070 and the current 3070 actually called 3070Ti.  But hey, that would only make sense.  If you look at the performance stack-up of this naming fantasy vs 20 series, it would fit.  Then the 3060 would have been reviewed better (save for the fact that it needs to be MSRP <=$299).  Everyone is comparing it to a GA104 3060Ti.  They are nothing alike, two different GPUs, big Marketing mistake.
 
 

xeddex

Bora1114
The issue with 20 series production is a lot of people didn't want the cards bc they already had pascal. I doubt production of 20 series or even 30 series is anywhere close to pascal at its peak. 

That's something I think many people miss or don't completely comprehend.  The entire 20 series was a "pass" for a whole lot of people (myself included).  20 series was 10 series performance with their first attempt at raytracing bolted on and DLSS was nowhere near what it is now.  Unless you just wanted a "new shiny" you probably passed entirely on 20 series.  So people who stuck with 10 series performance had 10 series performance and folks that bought 20 series performance still had near 10 series performance.  So now 30 series comes out and "woo hoo! real performance and DLSS has matured into something folks want".  So the demand for 30 series was a combination of the extreme pent up demand due to both the 10 and 20 series having near the same performance.

I skipped 20 series for this very reason.  RTX tax for little to no raster gaming gain vs current 10 series card in hand.  Now the 30 series brings real gains on both fronts.  I jumped.

SirKronan
Yes, I agree that is probably the biggest factor. The 20 series is more in demand now that 30's are perpetually sold out everywhere than they were for most of their actual release cycle. I had a 1080ti, and there was absolutely zero practical reason to upgrade to anything 20 series.

fadedlogic
More than one million households and businesses in Taiwan's heavily industrialised central regions were put on water rationing Tuesday, as the island battles its worst drought in 56 years.
The shortage is expected to particularly impact the water-intensive microchip manufacturing sector during a global shortage of semiconductors that power everything from cars to iPhones and computers.
 
Los Angeles Port has a 6 month backlog of cargo!

Bora1114
 
Won't affect 30 series chips since samsung doesn't have fabs in Taiwan. 

raiden2a

Bora1114
 
Won't affect 30 series chips since samsung doesn't have fabs in Taiwan. 

GDDR6X is manufactured by Micron which has Fabs in Taiwan.