Synntax01
I'm at 9:04am(3080 hybrid) So its still very clear they had absolutely the lowest of all the drops...Just a rough estimate but must have been less then 40 cards...

Do you have any actual evidence, or is this simply a guess?

enewt

philipma1957
When you look and see the resellers on amazon I think 20% of the stock went to bots.
 
Right now eth mining earns 0.0725 an mh
 
so   3060ti = 60 x 0.0725 or 4.35 a card daily  652.50 dollars in 150 days
and 3070   = 65 x 0.0725 or 4.71 a card daily 705.50 dollars in  150 days
      3080  = 95 x 0.0725 or  6.88 a card daily 1032.00 dollars in 150 days
 
 
Obviously power costs will lower that profit but when a quality card is 100% paid for in 150 days the demand will not end.
 
Every day I have a guy looking for me to build him a 2 card rig to mine/game and every day I tell them I can't get gpus. Some people are making $$ on this.

 
I am not familiar with mining...that is "earning" before the cost of electricity, right?  So before electricity costs are deducted, a 3080 makes $175 after deducting the cost of the card (assuming taxes, etc.) over 150 days.  I bet the electricity costs eat up that $175 pretty quickly, no? 

It depends a lot on where you live, here in Ca, it could eat up half or more of the total revenue per day. 

enewt

philipma1957
When you look and see the resellers on amazon I think 20% of the stock went to bots.
 
Right now eth mining earns 0.0725 an mh
 
so   3060ti = 60 x 0.0725 or 4.35 a card daily  652.50 dollars in 150 days
and 3070   = 65 x 0.0725 or 4.71 a card daily 705.50 dollars in  150 days
      3080  = 95 x 0.0725 or  6.88 a card daily 1032.00 dollars in 150 days
 
 
Obviously power costs will lower that profit but when a quality card is 100% paid for in 150 days the demand will not end.
 
Every day I have a guy looking for me to build him a 2 card rig to mine/game and every day I tell them I can't get gpus. Some people are making $$ on this.

 
I am not familiar with mining...that is "earning" before the cost of electricity, right?  So before electricity costs are deducted, a 3080 makes $175 after deducting the cost of the card (assuming taxes, etc.) over 150 days.  I bet the electricity costs eat up that $175 pretty quickly, no? 

edit   cali is $$ 40 cents a kwatt so a 3080 makes 1032-480 = 552 in 5 months but look at the competition across usa.
 
So here goes  for a 3080 set to 220 watts just mining nothing else will pull about 325 watts or 7-8kwatts a day.
 
So:
10 cent power = 80 cents a day  about 120 dollars in 150 days. so 1032-120 = 912 profit. card is better than free.
20 cent power = 160 cents a day about 240 dollars in 150 days so 1032-240 = 792 profit card is just about free.
 
I know most of usa is close to 20 cents not 10 cents a kwatt.
 
But these economics are causing the demand to not go away.
 
My power is 14 cents in winter and 17 cents in summer I am in NJ much of the northeast home Power cost is 15 to 25 cents. So a ton of people are building and looking for gear. What is worse is the restriction to the gear is helping mining profits since no miner can flood the market with cards.
 
Never mind
CPU chips = short stock
Phone chips = short stock
Car chips = Short stock.
 
Laptop demand = record high.
phone demand = record high.
gpu demand = record high.
 
The incentive to divert cards to miners = huge profits as a miner will say why not pay 1000 for a 3080 I have cheap power (5 cents industrial) I will pay the card off in 6-7 months. So he is willing to pay more. It truly sucks  If you need a card and game a bit.
 
 
 

razierklinge

philipma1957

enewt

philipma1957
When you look and see the resellers on amazon I think 20% of the stock went to bots.
 
Right now eth mining earns 0.0725 an mh
 
so   3060ti = 60 x 0.0725 or 4.35 a card daily  652.50 dollars in 150 days
and 3070   = 65 x 0.0725 or 4.71 a card daily 705.50 dollars in  150 days
      3080  = 95 x 0.0725 or  6.88 a card daily 1032.00 dollars in 150 days
 
 
Obviously power costs will lower that profit but when a quality card is 100% paid for in 150 days the demand will not end.
 
Every day I have a guy looking for me to build him a 2 card rig to mine/game and every day I tell them I can't get gpus. Some people are making $$ on this.

 
I am not familiar with mining...that is "earning" before the cost of electricity, right?  So before electricity costs are deducted, a 3080 makes $175 after deducting the cost of the card (assuming taxes, etc.) over 150 days.  I bet the electricity costs eat up that $175 pretty quickly, no? 

edit   cali is $$ 40 cents a kwatt so a 3080 makes 1032-480 = 552 in 5 months but look at the competition across usa.
 
So here goes  for a 3080 set to 220 watts just mining nothing else will pull about 325 watts or 7-8kwatts a day.
 
So:
10 cent power = 80 cents a day  about 120 dollars in 150 days. so 1032-120 = 912 profit. card is better than free.
20 cent power = 160 cents a day about 240 dollars in 150 days so 1032-240 = 792 profit card is just about free.
 
I know most of usa is close to 20 cents not 10 cents a kwatt.
 
But these economics are causing the demand to not go away.
 
My power is 14 cents in winter and 17 cents in summer I am in NJ much of the northeast home Power cost is 15 to 25 cents. So a ton of people are building and looking for gear. What is worse is the restriction to the gear is helping mining profits since no miner can flood the market with cards.
 
Never mind
CPU chips = short stock
Phone chips = short stock
Car chips = Short stock.
 
Laptop demand = record high.
phone demand = record high.
gpu demand = record high.
 
The incentive to divert cards to miners = huge profits as a miner will say why not pay 1000 for a 3080 I have cheap power (5 cents industrial) I will pay the card off in 6-7 months. So he is willing to pay more. It truly sucks  If you need a card and game a bit.
 
 
 

Wow I had no idea it was this profitable. And my power cost is like 7.38 cents/kWh. If I ever get a 3080 maybe I'll do a bit of mining to offset the costs...

 
This is what I did with my gaming friends in PA, NJ, NY, CT I showed them the math and would get them to upgrade to the next level of gpu and think of the mining profits as an exotic rebate.
 
Just don't go nuts and think you should build a lot of rigs to get rich. price crash on coins could hurt you a lot.
 
If you push the 3080 to a constant 220 watts it may be too hard on the card.
 
But there is no reason not to run it at 200 watts or 190 watts and get back a bit less.
 
Evga 1080ti hybrid  cards were very good back in the day.
They are know to last 3 years of mining at 180-200 watts.
evga 3080 have more cooling so should be good if not pushed.

nekrosoft13
anyone know what date they are on now?

Gotta be more specific...
 
which card?
 

deadmonkies

Synntax01
I'm at 9:04am(3080 hybrid) So its still very clear they had absolutely the lowest of all the drops...Just a rough estimate but must have been less then 40 cards...

Do you have any actual evidence, or is this simply a guess?

Its more of a educated guess. Looking at the data that was collected that's all I can guess.

guess they stopped making the 3888 just like all the other non-FTWs I am only 15 seconds out on that card and sadly Think I will have to wait a life time for it I might get the air cooled card that I signed up for on Oct 11 before the 3888 O well guess I get to hold on to my money a little longer and guess it is ok I will need to start saving for the price increase. 

So if the 3898 cards drop tomorrow and Thursday like it did today then we should clear the congestion this week 
That means my 12/17 at 13:52 should come up by end of next week 
Edit-Just in time for factory shutdown in Eastern Asia

guyerg
guess they stopped making the 3888 just like all the other non-FTWs I am only 15 seconds out on that card and sadly Think I will have to wait a life time for it I might get the air cooled card that I signed up for on Oct 11 before the 3888 O well guess I get to hold on to my money a little longer and guess it is ok I will need to start saving for the price increase. 

I'm 10G-P5-3888-KR 12/10/2020 9:10:29 AM PT No so its pretty sad seeing that it hasn't dropped since december 10th

Alynoser

nekrosoft13
anyone know what date they are on now?

For which sku? enewt has a doc that gets updated every day that shows the current status of all the skus

Alynoser

found the post :)
waiting for 3080 FTW3 Ultra, still 3 days to go :(

enewt

Adiyaaa1234567

guyerg
guess they stopped making the 3888 just like all the other non-FTWs I am only 15 seconds out on that card and sadly Think I will have to wait a life time for it I might get the air cooled card that I signed up for on Oct 11 before the 3888 O well guess I get to hold on to my money a little longer and guess it is ok I will need to start saving for the price increase. 

I'm 10G-P5-3888-KR 12/10/2020 9:10:29 AM PT No so its pretty sad seeing that it hasn't dropped since december 10th

For clarity, the front of the 3888 queue is currently on 12/10.  It last moved on 12/22 (it moved a grand total of four seconds on that day).

how many seconds has 3898 moved today?
 

I know someone who mines. Last I heard, he had a rented space full of machines with about 90-100 GPU's in use, mostly EVGA 2080's, but they are being sold off and replaced with 3090's. The electric bill alone is thousands of dollars per month. It took a 6 figure investment to get it going. And you can't mine all the time, only when it's cost effective. He said that last year was a good year and he cleared about 10k per month on average after costs. 
 
If you only have one card it's not worth the wear and tear on the card. I also wouldn't buy a card that was previously used for mining.

Tuesday brought multiple drops out and the 3070 XC3 Ultra certainly benefited from the overnight hours...it is now on day 2 of its timeline.  But some queues remain dropless and others’ drops moved the queue only a little bit farther down the road.  Hopefully Wednesday and Thursday bring heavier drops...goodness knows, we are thirsty.  Very, very thirsty.
 
Stay safe...keep the faith...we will each secure our card...eventually. See you again tomorrow.
 
As of 4:40 pm PT Tuesday evening, January 26, this is the status of the North American queues (bolded font represents movement from the morning of Tuesday, January 26; italicized parentheticals calculate the length of movement from the prior report):
 
Card                                  SKU                        Auto-Notify Timestamp / (Change from Previous Summary)
 
Ultra
3090 FTW3 Ultra                 3987                       10/09/2020 15:47:15   
3090 XC3 Ultra                   3975                       10/05/2020 20:52:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra                 3897                       09/18/2020 23:02:56      
3080 XC3 Ultra                   3885                       09/18/2020 08:26:34        
3070 FTW3 Ultra                 3767                       10/29/2020 09:04:13      (01:31:53)     
3070 XC3 Ultra                   3755                       10/30/2020 07:16:16   (07:55:06) 
3060 Ti FTW3 Ultra             3667                       12/01/2020 07:02:33      (00:01:53)  
 
Gaming
3090 FTW3 Gaming             3985                       09/24/2020 12:40:02   
3090 XC3 Gaming               3973                       09/24/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Gaming             3895                       09/16/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Gaming               3883                       09/16/2020 11:01:20
3070 XC3 Gaming               3753                       10/29/2020 00:00:00
3060 Ti FTW3 Gaming         3665                       12/08/2020 13:44:00 
3060 Ti XC3 Gaming           3663                       12/01/2020 07:16:00  
 
Black
3090 XC3 Black                   3971                       09/24/2020 00:00:00 
3080 XC3 Black                   3881                       09/16/2020 15:14:00  
3070 XC3 Black                   3751                       10/29/2020 06:14:00  
 
Hybrid
3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3988                       12/10/2020 09:21:03     
3090 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3978                       12/08/2020 14:19:07    
3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid       3898                       12/16/2020 09:03:29     (00:00:18)
3080 XC3 Ultra Hybrid         3888                       12/10/2020 09:08:56    
 
Hydro Copper (Delayed)
3090 FTW 3 Ultra HC           3989                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3090 XC3 Ultra HC              3979                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 FTW3 Ultra HC            3899                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
3080 XC3 Ultra HC              3889                       11/13/2020 00:00:00
K|NGP|N (Queue sheet)       3998                       12/16/2020 09:51:04      (00:09:41) 
 
Grandfathered Prices: If you registered (via the auto-notify button) for the North American queues prior to January 10, 2021, and purchase a 30 series card via the queues’ “drops” prior to April 16, 2021, the card’s price should be grandfathered to the 2020 prices.  The price increases for 2021 are effective as of January 11, 2021.  
 
May your remaining wait be shorter than you anticipate; it is already longer than you deserve.
 
Good luck tomorrow! Stay safe!

https.shaf
Wow no 3080 ftw ultra drops in 2 days

ikr :(
I'm so late in the queue... I'm afraid I won't be able to get a card before the mid-April price cutoff.

anthonyfredsumibcay

https.shaf
Wow no 3080 ftw ultra drops in 2 days

i know right..kind of worried now.
 
thanks for the update enewt !

My pleasure; I hope it helps.