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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:00:42
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apochromaticenvy Got notified for 3657 on Apr 27 and decided to let it pass (the only reason I'm upgrading from GTX-1060 6GB SC is for RTX, and IMHO, the reviews appear to show that the 3060 Ti is well worth the extra $70 over the 3060 for that purpose). MyNotify says: 12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:50:55 AM PT, which matches up pretty well with Enewt's latest update. Good luck to all! Matt D.
Do you happen to know, or have the ability to look at the MyNotify HTML, and see what your notify position is? Someone was talking about this a few pages back and now my curiosity is piqued as to whether that means anything. In the HTML (view source) there is a part that says: <input type="button" value="Remove Notify" onclick="return removeNotify('???????','12G-P5-3657-KR','2/25/2021 9:50:55 AM');"> I am curious what the "???????" is for you.
There's no "Remove Notify" button for that item anymore, because "Notify Sent" = "Yes". When I look at my remaining Notifies, which say "Notify Sent" = "No", there's a line for each of them, but none have anything where you show "'???????',". Instead, they all have ..."return removeNotify('PART NUMBER','DATE ENTERED');"> and nothing else between.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:03:04
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T_e_l_t The issue is that in terms of benefits, it is good for them to sell the cards at unreallistically high price in times of shortages... But for us consumers, it's really bad ^^
I don’t believe EVGA is that short sighted. I just wish that the surplus they can direct to queues were much more than what they can do right now.
There is a cost to EVGA getting more supply and they don't want to risk it. Many other AIB's are raising prices because they are having to outbid mining farms for spare chips from Nvidia.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:09:43
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I removed my notifies a while back after getting my 3080 and one for my brother-in-law elsewhere. Now my brother is looking for one. I thought I was doing the right thing by giving up my notifies, but lesson learned . Good luck today everyone! 10G-P5-3897-KR 10/7/2020 11:33:51 AM PT Removed by User 10G-P5-3883-KR 10/7/2020 11:33:27 AM PT Removed by User 10G-P5-3895-KR 10/5/2020 7:35:59 PM PT Removed by User 10G-P5-3885-KR 9/19/2020 3:09:12 PM PT Removed by User 10G-P5-3881-KR 9/18/2020 6:49:49 AM PT Removed by User
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:19:30
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Good morning all I have a Spin to Save wheel question, I have just registered the sweet little SFX modular power supply I will use for my upcoming ITX build. That enabled me to become an elite member (please don't respond with how easy it is to become and elite member...) Anyway, upon competing the membership there's the Spin to Save wheel. Is there a time limit on using your spin? Like many I'm waiting for my spot in the queues to come up and I'd prefer to use it whenever my time comes.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:24:42
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I think it’s spin or lose, but I might be wrong.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:26:49
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Boy, lot of good discussion the last day or 2, sad I missed it. Sounds like just what is needed to burn off the excess energy between queue drops. 2 week countdown to the next price hike, hopefully we see some movement in the right places (or any place, to be honest). Good luck yall.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:29:07
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ggunston Good morning all I have a Spin to Save wheel question, I have just registered the sweet little SFX modular power supply I will use for my upcoming ITX build. That enabled me to become an elite member (please don't respond with how easy it is to become and elite member...) Anyway, upon competing the membership there's the Spin to Save wheel. Is there a time limit on using your spin? Like many I'm waiting for my spot in the queues to come up and I'd prefer to use it whenever my time comes.
I thought I remember hearing it was 90 days to use after you spun. But I assume you are asking how long can you wait to spin? That sounds like a good EVGA support question. Damn time limiting in-between posts, well-played EVGA.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:32:57
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Yes I was wondering how long I can wait before I have to use my spin or lose it. I'll send a message to EVGA support and report back once I get a response. But in the meantime, if anyone knows the answer, I'd be grateful hearing from you.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:37:32
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drewski989 Boy, lot of good discussion the last day or 2, sad I missed it. Sounds like just what is needed to burn off the excess energy between queue drops. 2 week countdown to the next price hike, hopefully we see some movement in the right places (or any place, to be honest). Good luck yall.
Too bad they cant make gpus out of salt or else we could supply the entire industry
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kissTheApex
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:38:58
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drewski989 Damn time limiting in-between posts, well-played EVGA.
I always get hit by that since I can’t figure out how to multi-quote. (Viewing on the phone 95% of the time)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:44:16
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apochromaticenvyWhen I look at my remaining Notifies, which say "Notify Sent" = "No", there's a line for each of them, but none have anything where you show "'???????',". Instead, they all have ..."return removeNotify('PART NUMBER','DATE ENTERED');"> and nothing else between. EVGA doesn't like our idea to track queue by numbers, so they changed it. 3989 first and last card that we able to track. I will laugh if they will send notification to all people who on this list first just to distract our tracking. It doesn't looks problematic - there just around 30 people on the list.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 06:55:15
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apochromaticenvyWhen I look at my remaining Notifies, which say "Notify Sent" = "No", there's a line for each of them, but none have anything where you show "'???????',". Instead, they all have ..."return removeNotify('PART NUMBER','DATE ENTERED');"> and nothing else between. EVGA doesn't like our idea to track queue by numbers, so they changed it. 3989 first and last card that we able to track. I will laugh if they will send notification to all people who on this list first just to distract our tracking. It doesn't looks problematic - there just around 30 people on the list.
We found out too much lmao
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:06:14
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kissTheApex
drewski989 Damn time limiting in-between posts, well-played EVGA.
I always get hit by that since I can’t figure out how to multi-quote. (Viewing on the phone 95% of the time)
Do you use the mobile or desktop version on your phone? Because the mobile version is NOT GOOD. lol I usually use the desktop version and then multi-quoting works just like on your computer! :)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:17:18
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drewski989
Damn time limiting in-between posts, well-played EVGA.
I always get hit by that since I can’t figure out how to multi-quote. (Viewing on the phone 95% of the time)
Do you use the mobile or desktop version on your phone? Because the mobile version is NOT GOOD. lol I usually use the desktop version and then multi-quoting works just like on your computer! :)
The mobile version needs some serious CSS work.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:24:51
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TheRealMikeVan Do you use the mobile or desktop version on your phone? Because the mobile version is NOT GOOD. lol I usually use the desktop version and then multi-quoting works just like on your computer! :)
Having to use the mobile version, because - desktop version get way way way too small on the phone, and more importantly, - when I click on a thread name on desktop version, it takes me hundreds (really) pages back instead of taking me to the “new” post(s) like the mobile version does.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:29:41
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Any updates on the 3090 FTW3 Ultra queue?
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:39:43
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:41:14
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If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
probably not, i have a feeling its going to double in price due to the scalpers :(
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:41:19
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:42:05
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TheRealMikeVan Do you use the mobile or desktop version on your phone? Because the mobile version is NOT GOOD. lol I usually use the desktop version and then multi-quoting works just like on your computer! :)
Having to use the mobile version, because
- desktop version get way way way too small on the phone, and more importantly,
- when I click on a thread name on desktop version, it takes me hundreds (really) pages back instead of taking me to the “new” post(s) like the mobile version does.
Ahhhh I see... Sorry I don't know how to help then! Lol
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:45:17
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RasTeX https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-lite-hash-rate-series-to-begin-shipping-mid-may If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:51:10
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If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
dont forget the scalpers, even if the miners dont go for it, demand is so high right now..
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:52:12
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:55:03
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RasTeX https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-lite-hash-rate-series-to-begin-shipping-mid-may If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Hopefully this will mean more availability. This will likely scare off two groups of people: - Gamers who couldn't comfortably afford the 3080Ti without subsidizing the cost with mining. - Small miners who can't afford the risk should the limiter be unable to be bypassed. But, these groups won't be bothered: - Gamers who can easily afford the 3080Ti and aren't bothered to mine. - Miners who can afford the risk should the limiter be unable to be bypassed, and happily hold onto the card while they experiment in workarounds. - Scalpers, because more money! evgasimpster
xeddex
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RasTeX If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
dont forget the scalpers, even if the miners dont go for it, demand is so high right now..
IIRC, the architectural changes AMD made to RDNA2 is why they are garbage at mining. So, it's very likely nVidia made subtle architectural changes to this end. Would be a much better solution that a software/firmware bandaid.
post edited by Cheemonstonzo - 2021/04/30 07:58:49
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:57:19
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RasTeX https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-lite-hash-rate-series-to-begin-shipping-mid-may If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
With the 3060 it was a physical change as well but it still required a driver to detect usage. There is no way on only a hardware level to reduce crypto performance without changing the architecture which they wont do until the next series comes out. (Even then I don't expect them to change the architecture away from compute)
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 07:57:27
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xeddex
Bora1114
RasTeX If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
dont forget the scalpers, even if the miners dont go for it, demand is so high right now..
I am aware of all forces that will try to remove any miner block, but if that happens shortly after relase, it will be real&big hit on Nvidias already broken public image.... After "mistake" with 3060 driver/miner block we are a bit more avare
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 08:02:21
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RasTeX https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-lite-hash-rate-series-to-begin-shipping-mid-may If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Hopefully this will mean more availability. This will likely scare off two groups of people: - Gamers who couldn't comfortably afford the 3080Ti without subsidizing the cost with mining. - Small miners who can't afford the risk should the limiter be unable to be bypassed. But, these groups won't be bothered: - Gamers who can easily afford the 3080Ti and aren't bothered to mine. - Miners who can afford the risk should the limiter be unable to be bypassed, and happily hold onto the card while they experiment in workarounds. - Scalpers, because more money!
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RasTeX If this turns out to be true, we are heading to better future? Then again....
Expect it to be cracked fast maybe even by Nvidia again.
Sounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. On the other hand if they changed the chip by cutting/changing some circuit paths that impact crypto but don't effect gaming then... Nvidia 1 Miners 0 game over.
dont forget the scalpers, even if the miners dont go for it, demand is so high right now..
IIRC, the architectural changes AMD made to RDNA2 is why they are garbage at mining. So, it's very likely nVidia made subtle architectural changes to this end. Would be a much better solution that a software/firmware bandaid.
Hahahah, a bit scary to see that this madness will last for a while....
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 08:09:38
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xeddexSounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. Nope! Software can not be hacked if it done right. Actually it is simple: chip can provide some data( every time different) to the driver, driver should make some calculations and send result back into chip, chip check result and if it right - unlock mining. To make this unhackable, Nvidia must move calculations to own server and driver should ask server to do it. In this case they can check if it request from legit developer. Because you can't get algorithm to transform data, you can't hack it.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 08:16:05
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xeddexSounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. Nope! Software can not be hacked if it done right. Actually it is simple: chip can provide some data(every time different) to the driver, driver should make some calculations and send result back into chip, chip check result and if it right - unlock mining. To make this unhackable, Nvidia must move calculations to own server and driver should ask server to do it. In this case they can check if it request from legit developer. Because you can't get algorithm to transform data, you can't hack it.
This would an always-online-DRM to use your GPU. If someone has the capability to modify the driver & BIOS, they strip out the call-home functions and just flash a different ID that will only work with their driver. nVidia driver package will ignore this GPU as ID won't match.
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Re: New EVGA.com Notification Checkout Process
2021/04/30 08:42:56
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xeddexSounds like it's a physical change to the chips. However that doesn't mean it's not crackable; just depends on what they changed. If they changed the chip where it has a bit of silicon that's a flag to say "hey i don't do crypto" then presumably bypassable since software would check for the flag and software can be hacked. Nope! Software can not be hacked if it done right. Actually it is simple: chip can provide some data(every time different) to the driver, driver should make some calculations and send result back into chip, chip check result and if it right - unlock mining. To make this unhackable, Nvidia must move calculations to own server and driver should ask server to do it. In this case they can check if it request from legit developer. Because you can't get algorithm to transform data, you can't hack it.
Can't the return value be intercepted and spoofed into fooling the system to allow mining? Or am I totally wrong in that thinking?
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