Story:
Today I entered the Newegg shuffle for the ASUS 3090 ROG STRIX options. Now, there is no point in entering if you do not check if you've won, but if I do not think I have a chance at being selected, I tend to just forget I signed up for these things. I also do not enter the shuffle often anymore, so it is not in my routine to check my personal email during work hours.  Anyway, at 4:04 pm PT, I suddenly remembered that I entered the shuffle, and checked my personal email, and I was sent an email that said that I was selected at 2:00 pm PT with a 2 hour purchase window. Now Newegg is not like EVGA; they do not help you if you miss a purchase window; they just do a redraw or drop the merchandise on the site. 
 
Now this seems a bummer, but I would like to calculate how much money I did not spend by missing my opportunity.  Califoria sales tax is at least 7.25% (I think I've seen it go up to 7.75% in some locales.) I will custom water cool my GPU so I want block also. A EK block for the STRIX costs about 185$. There a cheaper blocks, but you do not want to go cheap on the block. EK shipping is pretty steep, but I do not remember what it would be exactly, say it is $10. The STRIX costs $2,240 with $10 shipping. That is ~(2,240 + 185)*1.0725 + 20  = ~$2620.81
 
Now say the K|NGP|N Hydro copper were to exist. Say it costs $2100; factoring in associates codes on a guess is excessive. I do not think it would cost more to make than the hybrid K|NGP|N, but it can compete with aftermarket block costs (which I do not know of right now) so it can go higher and still sell. EVGA shipping would cost about $15. That would be ~2100*1.0725 + 15 = ~$2261.25 
That is $353.56 less.
 
Now that is the worst case on the EVGA side. Say I bought an FTW3 HC instead. It has sufficient power for me (who mainly cares about the 24 GB of VRAM) and is competitive in performance to the STRIX.  (ASUS advertises a slightly higher boost clock with the stock BIOS.) That would be ~1920*0.97*1.0725 + 15 = ~2012.42. That is $608.39 less.
 
I have a 20% off coupon code from the elite spin. It expires 90 days after the spin which is about 75 days from now. If the FTW3 HC que gets to me, or the K|NGP|N HC is released and I get in the que early within those 75 days, I can apply the code. That is very unlikely and I would not count on it, but it theoretically could happen. Then I would spend only $1600.58 on my FTW3 HC and spend an entire grand less than that ROG STRIX. I can dream.
 
I been holding this back until now, but that STRIX was bundled with a $135 B450 motherboard that I would definitely have not bought otherwise. That's not a B550, a B450. Now $135 is a drop in the bucket as we are talking 3090s so it would not be that big of a deal. After the big upgrade I'll do in a couple months, hopefully, I'll have a CPU AIO, a power supply, and the 3060 left over. With a motherboard I would have had 4 parts to a hand me down build already. 
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My Thoughts on the 3080 TI
 
When the 3080 was launched there was pervasive narrative, that I discovered afterword, that it was a 'paper launch' meaning that NVIDIA claimed to come up with card with the performance of the 3080 for only $700, a great improvement in the price per performance over the previous generations of cards, to try to earn good will from their customer base after the poor price to performance of the 20 series. They did not actually want to sell many cards with such a price performance ratio, so they intentionally made very few of them. They would somehow raise the price later, when you could actually buy one.  Now I would not think NVIDIA would be that dumb, no customer base gives anybody credit for promises not delivered. I would doubt that they would do that on purpose. Besides, there is a shortage on all semiconductor products right now. How would raising the price on something after it become possible to buy one not be obvious?
 
It seems though, that probably not intentionally, the 3080 TI looks kind of like a fulfillment of that, so those who made this absurd claim can have one. The big gaping caveat is that the 3080 TI will not be readily available either. But then again, the 3080 could disappear, making the 3080 a non reality, and once the shortage clears up, the 3080 TI is what will stand.  The price to performance, in gaming, compared the the 3080 is likely to be worse. I mean, it cannot exceed the 3090, which is 'faster' than the 3080 by 15% (kind of an arbitrary figure thrown about) but if is priced starting at $1000, it will be 43% more expensive. It is not as good of a deal. Now, premium products are usually worse value, but since the 3080 is disappearing, the non-premium product with better value does not exist, so the worse value is all there is. The 3080 got everyone excited, but the 3080 could have been just too good to be true.
 
Now, if there turns out to be a $800 3080 TI FE card, then my entire last paragraph will not age well.
 
I do not want a 3080 TI in particular. I have a card, I am not desperate, and I could not put a mainly gaming card like that to good use, but if you like 4K gaming it would be great, and I hope you get one and enjoy it.
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My Thoughts on Elite Early Access and Making the Requirements More Stringent: 
 
I will admit, I am rather dismissive of arguments presented here for making the elite requirements more stringent. You all want graphics cards; you want policies that help you get a card at the expensive of others getting a card. You decide on the policies you want based on that, and want to argue that they should be that way, if that would accomplish anything, so you come up with reasons for it to be that way. But, it was not by those reasons that you want the policy, it is because that policy will help you specifically get a card. 
 
This may not be the best way to look at it, but we are trying to get graphics cards; they are all scarce. It is not just EVGA cards that are hard to get, but all of them. I don't know; it's like, when argue that you should have priority to purchase this hard to get EVGA product because you are a long time loyal EVGA customer, I hear it like you are arguing you have earned priority in obtaining a graphics card in general by being a loyal customer of this specific company. Its like 'you happen to know the right people.'
 
If I were philosopher king, and had complete autocratic control over every detail of human affairs, and had the wisdom, energy, and resources to exercise it, I would doll out the GPUs with a limited supply this way. First, to the computational physicists , computational chemists, engineers, and bioinformaticists that use them to complete their simulations. Then anyone else who already established themselves as making a living with their GPUs, like, yes, professional streamers. Then after those would be the the ones who use their GPUs for personal entertainment. Amongst those, their need would be have many factors but primarily how powerful of a graphics card they already have. Somebody who had their 1080TI blow up, and they have no card would have priority over somebody with a working 2080 TI. My most powerful GPU was a 1060 mobile 4 GB, so I would be behind those with lesser GPUs and ahead of those with more powerful GPUs. Already having an ampere architecture GPU would put you at the bottom of the list. Somebody 'upgrading' from a 3090 FTW3 Ultra to a 3090 K|NGP|N Hybrid would not happen until everybody else who wanted just any 3090 got one. This is just a casual phantasy, of course it is not practical.
 
Here, we are deciding who gets a GPU by who purchased a product or two from EVGA before, or who had 100 posts on a web forum, or who watched enough twitch streams, or who watches Linus Tech Tips Videos as soon as they come out, or who can fill out a captcha the fastest (quick, click the railroad tracks), or who knows all the little tricks like direct urls, who who can click through a a checkout the fastest, or who has the fastest internet connection, or who can buy or write a better bot, or who can afford to wait all night in front of a Microcenter and the lost sleep not ruin them (This correlates to not having a day job, which correlates with being a carrier scalper, or a college student.), or random lottery that is not convincingly random, etc. The whole thing is silly, but I do not think adding past purchases from a brand makes any more sense than these. 
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My Thoughts on All the Spam Flags:
 
Are people trying to stop people from becoming elite members by flagging every post made by somebody they are not absolutely sure is not already an elite member? That is very...cold and competitive...and silly. You cannot take down every post. Anyway, I'll have you know that I am already an elite member, so flagging my post as spam will not do you any good.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

dwachtve
I can't decide yet which is worse:
 
The endless months and months in the queue
The you were not selected newegg shuffle messages every day
the 100s of EVGA graphics cards on Ebay every day
 
Seriously I think a much higher percentage of product needs to be coming to the queue instead of going to the retailers just to end up getting scalped!
 
Oh well back into my hole and impatiently waiting :D

You're assuming that the cards from the queue arent also being scalped...

ecfisher
Story:
Today I entered the Newegg shuffle for the ASUS 3090 ROG STRIX options. Now, there is no point in entering if you do not check if you've won, but if I do not think I have a chance at being selected, I tend to just forget I signed up for these things. I also do not enter the shuffle often anymore, so it is not in my routine to check my personal email during work hours.  Anyway, at 4:04 pm PT, I suddenly remembered that I entered the shuffle, and checked my personal email, and I was sent an email that said that I was selected at 2:00 pm PT with a 2 hour purchase window. Now Newegg is not like EVGA; they do not help you if you miss a purchase window; they just do a redraw or drop the merchandise on the site. 
 
Now this seems a bummer, but I would like to calculate how much money I did not spend by missing my opportunity.  Califoria sales tax is at least 7.25% (I think I've seen it go up to 7.75% in some locales.) I will custom water cool my GPU so I want block also. A EK block for the STRIX costs about 185$. There a cheaper blocks, but you do not want to go cheap on the block. EK shipping is pretty steep, but I do not remember what it would be exactly, say it is $10. The STRIX costs $2,240 with $10 shipping. That is ~(2,240 + 185)*1.0725 + 20  = ~$2620.81
 
Now say the K|NGP|N Hydro copper were to exist. Say it costs $2100; factoring in associates codes on a guess is excessive. I do not think it would cost more to make than the hybrid K|NGP|N, but it can compete with aftermarket block costs (which I do not know of right now) so it can go higher and still sell. EVGA shipping would cost about $15. That would be ~2100*1.0725 + 15 = ~$2261.25 
That is $353.56 less.
 
Now that is the worst case on the EVGA side. Say I bought an FTW3 HC instead. It has sufficient power for me (who mainly cares about the 24 GB of VRAM) and is competitive in performance to the STRIX.  (ASUS advertises a slightly higher boost clock with the stock BIOS.) That would be ~1920*0.97*1.0725 + 15 = ~2012.42. That is $608.39 less.
 
I have a 20% off coupon code from the elite spin. It expires 90 days after the spin which is about 75 days from now. If the FTW3 HC que gets to me, or the K|NGP|N HC is released and I get in the que early within those 75 days, I can apply the code. That is very unlikely and I would not count on it, but it theoretically could happen. Then I would spend only $1600.58 on my FTW3 HC and spend an entire grand less than that ROG STRIX. I can dream.
 
I been holding this back until now, but that STRIX was bundled with a $135 B450 motherboard that I would definitely have not bought otherwise. That's not a B550, a B450. Now $135 is a drop in the bucket as we are talking 3090s so it would not be that big of a deal. After the big upgrade I'll do in a couple months, hopefully, I'll have a CPU AIO, a power supply, and the 3060 left over. With a motherboard I would have had 4 parts to a hand me down build already. 
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My Thoughts on the 3080 TI
 
When the 3080 was launched there was pervasive narrative, that I discovered afterword, that it was a 'paper launch' meaning that NVIDIA claimed to come up with card with the performance of the 3080 for only $700, a great improvement in the price per performance over the previous generations of cards, to try to earn good will from their customer base after the poor price to performance of the 20 series. They did not actually want to sell many cards with such a price performance ratio, so they intentionally made very few of them. They would somehow raise the price later, when you could actually buy one.  Now I would not think NVIDIA would be that dumb, no customer base gives anybody credit for promises not delivered. I would doubt that they would do that on purpose. Besides, there is a shortage on all semiconductor products right now. How would raising the price on something after it become possible to buy one not be obvious?
 
It seems though, that probably not intentionally, the 3080 TI looks kind of like a fulfillment of that, so those who made this absurd claim can have one. The big gaping caveat is that the 3080 TI will not be readily available either. But then again, the 3080 could disappear, making the 3080 a non reality, and once the shortage clears up, the 3080 TI is what will stand.  The price to performance, in gaming, compared the the 3080 is likely to be worse. I mean, it cannot exceed the 3090, which is 'faster' than the 3080 by 15% (kind of an arbitrary figure thrown about) but if is priced starting at $1000, it will be 43% more expensive. It is not as good of a deal. Now, premium products are usually worse value, but since the 3080 is disappearing, the non-premium product with better value does not exist, so the worse value is all there is. The 3080 got everyone excited, but the 3080 could have been just too good to be true.
 
Now, if there turns out to be a $800 3080 TI FE card, then my entire last paragraph will not age well.
 
I do not want a 3080 TI in particular. I have a card, I am not desperate, and I could not put a mainly gaming card like that to good use, but if you like 4K gaming it would be great, and I hope you get one and enjoy it.
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My Thoughts on Elite Early Access and Making the Requirements More Stringent: 
 
I will admit, I am rather dismissive of arguments presented here for making the elite requirements more stringent. You all want graphics cards; you want policies that help you get a card at the expensive of others getting a card. You decide on the policies you want based on that, and want to argue that they should be that way, if that would accomplish anything, so you come up with reasons for it to be that way. But, it was not by those reasons that you want the policy, it is because that policy will help you specifically get a card. 
 
This may not be the best way to look at it, but we are trying to get graphics cards; they are all scarce. It is not just EVGA cards that are hard to get, but all of them. I don't know; it's like, when argue that you should have priority to purchase this hard to get EVGA product because you are a long time loyal EVGA customer, I hear it like you are arguing you have earned priority in obtaining a graphics card in general by being a loyal customer of this specific company. Its like 'you happen to know the right people.'
 
If I were philosopher king, and had complete autocratic control over every detail of human affairs, and had the wisdom, energy, and resources to exercise it, I would doll out the GPUs with a limited supply this way. First, to the computational physicists , computational chemists, engineers, and bioinformaticists that use them to complete their simulations. Then anyone else who already established themselves as making a living with their GPUs, like, yes, professional streamers. Then after those would be the the ones who use their GPUs for personal entertainment. Amongst those, their need would be have many factors but primarily how powerful of a graphics card they already have. Somebody who had their 1080TI blow up, and they have no card would have priority over somebody with a working 2080 TI. My most powerful GPU was a 1060 mobile 4 GB, so I would be behind those with lesser GPUs and ahead of those with more powerful GPUs. Already having an ampere architecture GPU would put you at the bottom of the list. Somebody 'upgrading' from a 3090 FTW3 Ultra to a 3090 K|NGP|N Hybrid would not happen until everybody else who wanted just any 3090 got one. This is just a casual phantasy, of course it is not practical.
 
Here, we are deciding who gets a GPU by who purchased a product or two from EVGA before, or who had 100 posts on a web forum, or who watched enough twitch streams, or who watches Linus Tech Tips Videos as soon as they come out, or who can fill out a captcha the fastest (quick, click the railroad tracks), or who knows all the little tricks like direct urls, who who can click through a a checkout the fastest, or who has the fastest internet connection, or who can buy or write a better bot, or who can afford to wait all night in front of a Microcenter and the lost sleep not ruin them (This correlates to not having a day job, which correlates with being a carrier scalper, or a college student.), or random lottery that is not convincingly random, etc. The whole thing is silly, but I do not think adding past purchases from a brand makes any more sense than these. 
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My Thoughts on All the Spam Flags:
 
Are people trying to stop people from becoming elite members by flagging every post made by somebody they are not absolutely sure is not already an elite member? That is very...cold and competitive...and silly. You cannot take down every post. Anyway, I'll have you know that I am already an elite member, so flagging my post as spam will not do you any good.
 

Wow, that's a lot but good thoughts. I do have to say that although the price/perf of the upcoming 3080ti might be bad in a normal market, it won't matter in the current market with prices out of control on the 3080. I definitely would have liked to see the 3080ti come with more memory but at this point, if I can get one under $1,300, I'm gonna call it a day and a win.

Larac
I think the LTT stuff bothers me the most.
The cards EVGA are sending, we have been told the retail outlets must get theirs due to contracts, so the cards are not from that pile.
So they must come from the pile already Queued, so right from our hands, to try and get a little PR, and more folks get to know about Jacob as his name is used every time LTT talks of it.


The rest of the new Elite stuff, looks like normal Marketing, proving their worth to the company. Site increase metrics and such.

It doesn't matter what they do they will piss off someone. 
How dare you not participate in VAG every other AIB is you just like selling cards to scalpers.
How dare you send the card that I am entitled to another gamer who is also waiting in a queue just like me.
In the end, complaining doesn't do anything, and if it makes you feel any better the number of cards being sent to VAG is likely minuscule compared to the number of cards sent out in the queue so unless your seconds away it really won't affect your wait time anyways.

wanderer1273
I think if you are from Europe, it's worth trying to buy 3000 series card from USA and then try to ship it to your country in EU. At least its going to be cheaper, because when you have price of 1600€ (~1950$) for 3080 in stores, and 2200€ (~2650$) for 3080 from scalpels it's just madness.

P.s. The main problem is, stores like best buy don't seem to ship their stuff around the world, and I cant seem to find any other way of shipping it. (Maybe make some friends in us and ask them to ship it to you)

Yep.
There is a good business oportunity for a dexterous delivery company.
But I think that there are similar options possible and already existing.

rayven96

Ginwho

discipleofm

nick_shl

discipleofmAlso, does anyone have any advice on how to sign up for a product launch while the website keeps crashing? It literally took me ~20 minutes to get the EVGA site to load when I signed up for the 3080 FTW/XC3 hybrid editions (I tried on both mobile and desktop). I have absolutely no clue how people managed to snag a ~9:02/9:05 am auto-notify slot.

That is simple: they used direct link: https://www.evga.com/products/autoNotify.aspx?pn=<place SKU here>
By open this link you can see Auto Notify form and can sign up. That is what I obtained my RTX 3060 from queue.
For example, for 3080 FTW/XC3 Hybrid Edition link will be:
 

Wow, I feel really, really dumb if the solution is that simple. I really wish I knew this earlier, it would have saved me a lot of heartaches.
 
But regardless, thanks for the heads up!

I was going to repost my question about a broad date when we might get the chance to buy my RTX 3080, but seeing you went into the queue in 12/10/20 & 12/16/20 and haven't heard anything, it doesn't look good for me who did it on 1/3/21!

Is there ANY way of getting it sooner??

I joined the queue 5 days earlier than you. don't worry, we'll get a notification with you in about 3 years :D

I joined on 7/10/20 for 3080 and still no notification. 
 
Also joined for 3090 on 11/26/2020, hope I get notification with May deliveries. Anybody know whats the status of 3090 queue?
 

The way evga is handling the stock via a queue system should be used by almost every other companies. Instead of losing time at a website praying for a drop to occur at that moment, or breaking the bank just for a 1650Ti at 2000$, you could enjoy gaming and just take care at your email address. It also allows to limit the number of card sold to a single person.
Off course, anyone could try to cheat the system, but at least evga tries something, and that's good to see. Just hope not to receive the email when you fall for a sleep longer than 8 hours xD

Surprisingly Amazon had a huge drop day yesterday for Evga. Ther is hope for the queue.

It's almost noon here in Ireland and I'm taking the weekend off so all you kiddies play nicely please or you'll end up in the "leabhar smachta" as we say here.
I wish you all the best of luck and may the wait be short for you.
Have a fab weekend🙂

T_e_l_t
Crossing fingers from EU as well 😁 But one question : are the queues different than in the US?

Yes. The North American and European queues are separate with separate signups. And they move in differing paces.

I think you find it on eu.evga.com

Good morning. Hopefully today will be plentiful in drops. Evga is all over the news I see...

kissTheApex

dskx_16
Good morning. Hopefully today will be plentiful in drops. Evga is all over the news I see...

Perhaps it will help other manufacturers to remove their thumbs from where they’re firmly stuck and follow their example.

That's a good way to see it.

T_e_l_t
The issue is that in terms of benefits, it is good for them to sell the cards at unreallistically high price in times of shortages... But for us consumers, it's really bad ^^

At least they aren't inflating the prices to match what the market is demanding.  Kudos to EVGA for keeping the cards at MSRP.

Nonimportantuser
Yea, chances on the Newegg Shuffle are only about 0.001%, because 100,000 people enter it a day as per recent news. Been trying that out for the past 2 weeks with no luck, kinda wondering what other options do i have that do not require me to spam F5 24/7 or involve scalpers.  

That Tom's Hardware article assumes there is only 1 item in any given shuffle, which I think even the most cynical among us assumes isn't the case. For their math to work they also have to ignore that there are multiple skus in any given shuffle (the pcmag article they quoted ran a correction)
 

Yes exactly, it is the other brands doing... Not acting against these pratices is almost like agreeing. And evga acts, even though it might be a long wait, at least it exists