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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/09 17:58:27 (permalink)
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Last I saw it was about 7:27 am on 9/17 for the FTW Ultra.  
 


Are you kidding me?? I'm 9/17 @ 07:27:23....*REMOVED LANGUAGE*
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/09 21:03:49 (permalink)
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I recall a tweet by jacob saying they were working on something to help in regards to understanding queue progress, but nothing about how, or what type of info there would be. even if it's a rough ballpark, I'm sure EVGA could offer better info than the google spreadsheets that get their info only from a small group of people who submit their queue times.


I'm sure it's a back and forth with Nvidia too. Theres alot of info that Nvidia probably doesn't want out on production currently. It might not even be something they can end up doing.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/09 23:00:43 (permalink)
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I recall a tweet by jacob saying they were working on something to help in regards to understanding queue progress, but nothing about how, or what type of info there would be. even if it's a rough ballpark, I'm sure EVGA could offer better info than the google spreadsheets that get their info only from a small group of people who submit their queue times.


I'm sure it's a back and forth with Nvidia too. Theres alot of info that Nvidia probably doesn't want out on production currently. It might not even be something they can end up doing.



Nvidia is being a real Joffrey about all this. I laughed when Jensen said it wasn't a supply problem, then laughed again when they basically gave up on their store and then dropped the flaming heap of a mess onto a crying Best Buy's lap, capping it "we heard what you said (obviously not) and will let Best Buy waste time and money while we improve our shopping experience (which really means when demand drops so we don't have to actually do anything)".
 
Nvidia really lost goodwill during 20xx and after this year they might even lose more. AMD's launch is gonna hurt it even more, maybe.
 
I like how EVGA is all in the shadowy background slowly wiping their brow with a cloth while puzzling out how to manage Nvidia's *REMOVED LANGUAGE*  the same way everyone was trying to manage Joffrey's BS.
post edited by Afterburner - 2020/10/12 05:43:38
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/10 01:26:18 (permalink)
Seeing the XC3 Black progress, I doubt I will get a card anytime soon

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/10 01:28:17 (permalink)
Prices in EU jumped again on etailers... Ftw3 Ultra now at 1100€ (1300$ !!! That's almost f-ing twice US price !!) in France. That's 29,5% higher than EVGA EU Store pricing of 850€ (1005$).
And that's comparing prices without the 5% rebate on EVGA store.

Legit etailers gone scalpers.

EVGA ! EU STORE ! We need your help, your queuing system and stock ! Pretty please.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/10 01:56:40 (permalink)
Yes, thats right.

If EVGA dint want to loose customers to other brands they have to do something.

Please move your *REMOVED LANGUAGE* and update your EU store.

From an other view... Big Navi is coming and my 5700xt doing a good job. If no RTX cards are available it would be a win for AMD!
 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/10 04:08:24 (permalink)
I feel your pain. 970 here as well. At least I have a working card I guess but would love a shiny new 3080. Overkill on my setup but don’t care.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/11 10:51:16 (permalink)
Cool. I will add.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/11 10:52:24 (permalink)
Cool. I will add. BTW, does this account for elite membership?

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/11 11:01:10 (permalink)
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I recall a tweet by jacob saying they were working on something to help in regards to understanding queue progress, but nothing about how, or what type of info there would be. even if it's a rough ballpark, I'm sure EVGA could offer better info than the google spreadsheets that get their info only from a small group of people who submit their queue times.


I'm sure it's a back and forth with Nvidia too. Theres alot of info that Nvidia probably doesn't want out on production currently. It might not even be something they can end up doing.

We get it. Their production is abysmal. Garbage. They don't need to try and hide that from anyone at this point. It's obvious.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/11 12:19:54 (permalink)
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Last I saw it was about 7:27 am on 9/17 for the FTW Ultra.  
 



I'm at 7:26:49 AM on 9/17 for the 3080 FTW Ultra. Nothing yet.


 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 10:13:49 (permalink)
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Yep, what seems to have happened here is that NVIDIA annoyed TSMC for some reason and went to Samsung late in the game, who has their own host of issues, and couldn't actually ramp up production on short notice. What's frustrating is the utter level of fragile ego on NVIDIA's part in not admitting that they have a big supply problem, or their decision to not delay the release just to please their shareholders. I mean, they could probably have even blamed it on Covid-19 supply chain issues and delayed the launch and they wouldn't get quite as beat up. Instead they blame consumers for "unexpected high demand". 
 
#1 rule of company ownership --> don't ever make it the consumer's problem. Saying it's "unexpected demand" when you only made like 1000 chips for a launch you know will have 100,000 early adopters is a bit of a stretch (and if they're saying they didn't forecast demand, they have larger problems in their company, especially given all the leaks and hype they actively generated. 50% performance increase over 2080ti for 1/2 the cost? How does that not generate insane demand, especially when you stopped production of the 20 series?!).
 
It's like Steve Jobs saying you're holding the phone wrong when the engineers messed up the design. It's pretty arrogant and consumers are smart enough to read between the lines, which pushes people to other companies, like AMD. Transparency is always the best policy. I want to buy from a company that owns their mistakes, not one that actively tries to change the narrative and sweep them under the rug (hi, MSI, I'm talking about you too!).
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I think EVGA is doing the best they can with the crappy hand they were dealt by NVIDIA. Doesn't matter how many boards they have ready, you can't make a video card without a GPU, and that's 100% on NVIDIA. 
post edited by variableresults - 2020/10/13 10:16:36

9/17/2020 7:53:57 AM PT (FTW3 Ultra) - ORDERED
 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 11:13:58 (permalink)
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Yep, what seems to have happened here is that NVIDIA annoyed TSMC for some reason and went to Samsung late in the game, who has their own host of issues, and couldn't actually ramp up production on short notice. What's frustrating is the utter level of fragile ego on NVIDIA's part in not admitting that they have a big supply problem, or their decision to not delay the release just to please their shareholders. I mean, they could probably have even blamed it on Covid-19 supply chain issues and delayed the launch and they wouldn't get quite as beat up. Instead they blame consumers for "unexpected high demand". 
 
#1 rule of company ownership --> don't ever make it the consumer's problem. Saying it's "unexpected demand" when you only made like 1000 chips for a launch you know will have 100,000 early adopters is a bit of a stretch (and if they're saying they didn't forecast demand, they have larger problems in their company, especially given all the leaks and hype they actively generated. 50% performance increase over 2080ti for 1/2 the cost? How does that not generate insane demand, especially when you stopped production of the 20 series?!).
 
It's like Steve Jobs saying you're holding the phone wrong when the engineers messed up the design. It's pretty arrogant and consumers are smart enough to read between the lines, which pushes people to other companies, like AMD. Transparency is always the best policy. I want to buy from a company that owns their mistakes, not one that actively tries to change the narrative and sweep them under the rug (hi, MSI, I'm talking about you too!).
</soapbox>
 
I think EVGA is doing the best they can with the crappy hand they were dealt by NVIDIA. Doesn't matter how many boards they have ready, you can't make a video card without a GPU, and that's 100% on NVIDIA. 


Agreed. Nvidia has really messed this up

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 13:03:26 (permalink)
Man, this is dragging on for so long.  :[
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 13:15:39 (permalink)
 
 
I don't know.  You have to wonder what will happen if AMD ramps up production of their new lineup, certain versions of it test faster then the 3080, partner brands get sufficient supply, and its all purchasable in massive stock by Dec 1?  
 
At the very least if their offering is better then the 3070 I predict 3070 - dead on arrival.
 
If its the same as the 3080 more or less .. its going to cut into sales... again driving demand down.  I will eventually get my step up but my second rig will likely have an AMD card in it.
 
 

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 13:23:44 (permalink)
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I don't know.  You have to wonder what will happen if AMD ramps up production of their new lineup, certain versions of it test faster then the 3080, partner brands get sufficient supply, and its all purchasable in massive stock by Dec 1?  
 
At the very least if their offering is better then the 3070 I predict 3070 - dead on arrival.
 
If its the same as the 3080 more or less .. its going to cut into sales... again driving demand down.  I will eventually get my step up but my second rig will likely have an AMD card in it.
 
 




 
I'm a bit torn on the AMD offerings from what I've seen so far. The big thing is no DLSS competitor, and as a past AMD Radeon owner, their driver support was absolute garbage. That was a while ago, though, and I don't know if it's gotten any better, but it's not worth having a high end card that is hobbled by mediocre / buggy drivers. 

9/17/2020 7:53:57 AM PT (FTW3 Ultra) - ORDERED
 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 13:26:26 (permalink)
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flg2010
 
 
I don't know.  You have to wonder what will happen if AMD ramps up production of their new lineup, certain versions of it test faster then the 3080, partner brands get sufficient supply, and its all purchasable in massive stock by Dec 1?  
 
At the very least if their offering is better then the 3070 I predict 3070 - dead on arrival.
 
If its the same as the 3080 more or less .. its going to cut into sales... again driving demand down.  I will eventually get my step up but my second rig will likely have an AMD card in it.
 
 




 
I'm a bit torn on the AMD offerings from what I've seen so far. The big thing is no DLSS competitor, and as a past AMD Radeon owner, their driver support was absolute garbage. That was a while ago, though, and I don't know if it's gotten any better, but it's not worth having a high end card that is hobbled by mediocre / buggy drivers. 



As tempting as it is to give NVidia the finger, every Radeon I've owned has been garbage, especially the software related to it.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 13:41:16 (permalink)
Same here. I want competition for nvidia, especially after this, but I've owned 2 AMD cards in the last 10 years and I had trouble with both of them. That's not even taking into consideration the driver issues. 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 14:34:31 (permalink)
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Man, this is dragging on for so long.  :[


Gonna be months I'm afraid. I went step up route so could be 3-months or more


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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 15:07:54 (permalink)
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Same here. I want competition for nvidia, especially after this, but I've owned 2 AMD cards in the last 10 years and I had trouble with both of them. That's not even taking into consideration the driver issues. 




You could say the same for the old AMD chips too, like Bulldozer (looool), and yet here we are, with Ryzen being the default choice for many people and AMD set to take the performance crown while Intel - gasp - becomes the value brand, lol. The real issue is a DLSS competitor, which they said they're working on. As far as drivers ago, AMD gets it - they have PTSD from the last launch and apparently are not doubling down, but tripling down on launch drivers this time. So we'll see.
 
All it's going to take is techtubers giving a thumbs up on drivers and performance and people will nosedive for the AMD cards. If they manage a realistic DLSS competitor by next gen in two years, then things are going to get really interesting and I absolutely can't wait. I'll hopefully have a new monitor that supports freesync or gsync by then so I'll pretty much pick whatever manages to sit on top.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 15:46:13 (permalink)
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<soapbox>
Yep, what seems to have happened here is that NVIDIA annoyed TSMC for some reason and went to Samsung late in the game, who has their own host of issues, and couldn't actually ramp up production on short notice. What's frustrating is the utter level of fragile ego on NVIDIA's part in not admitting that they have a big supply problem, or their decision to not delay the release just to please their shareholders. I mean, they could probably have even blamed it on Covid-19 supply chain issues and delayed the launch and they wouldn't get quite as beat up. Instead they blame consumers for "unexpected high demand". 
 
#1 rule of company ownership --> don't ever make it the consumer's problem. Saying it's "unexpected demand" when you only made like 1000 chips for a launch you know will have 100,000 early adopters is a bit of a stretch (and if they're saying they didn't forecast demand, they have larger problems in their company, especially given all the leaks and hype they actively generated. 50% performance increase over 2080ti for 1/2 the cost? How does that not generate insane demand, especially when you stopped production of the 20 series?!).
 
It's like Steve Jobs saying you're holding the phone wrong when the engineers messed up the design. It's pretty arrogant and consumers are smart enough to read between the lines, which pushes people to other companies, like AMD. Transparency is always the best policy. I want to buy from a company that owns their mistakes, not one that actively tries to change the narrative and sweep them under the rug (hi, MSI, I'm talking about you too!).
</soapbox>
 
I think EVGA is doing the best they can with the crappy hand they were dealt by NVIDIA. Doesn't matter how many boards they have ready, you can't make a video card without a GPU, and that's 100% on NVIDIA. 


Agreed. Nvidia has really messed this up


it's impossible to mess up so bad by mistake.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 17:38:38 (permalink)
Its crazy there have been so many FTW3 card drops but we haven't seen any XC3 card drops. Are the XC3 cards ever going to be released to the public or at this point is it just vaporware? It's almost been a month since the 3080 launch. I'm still patiently waiting for ANY XC3 drops. 
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 17:41:08 (permalink)
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Its crazy there have been so many FTW3 card drops but we haven't seen any XC3 card drops. Are the XC3 cards ever going to be released to the public or at this point is it just vaporware? It's almost been a month since the 3080 launch. I'm still patiently waiting for ANY XC3 drops. 


This is per the usual. Typically the cards with the highest margin are the most produced ones. Just like you barely ever seen any 2080 Ti Black(the 1000$ variant). They were pretty much unicorns. It seems like besides the bin Nvidia doesnt, there isn't any other ones done.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 17:51:46 (permalink)
I was one of the lucky ones who got one of the 2080Ti Black Editions for a even $999 tax free and with free shipping.
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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 17:52:30 (permalink)
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<soapbox>
Yep, what seems to have happened here is that NVIDIA annoyed TSMC for some reason and went to Samsung late in the game, who has their own host of issues, and couldn't actually ramp up production on short notice. What's frustrating is the utter level of fragile ego on NVIDIA's part in not admitting that they have a big supply problem, or their decision to not delay the release just to please their shareholders. I mean, they could probably have even blamed it on Covid-19 supply chain issues and delayed the launch and they wouldn't get quite as beat up. Instead they blame consumers for "unexpected high demand". 
 
#1 rule of company ownership --> don't ever make it the consumer's problem. Saying it's "unexpected demand" when you only made like 1000 chips for a launch you know will have 100,000 early adopters is a bit of a stretch (and if they're saying they didn't forecast demand, they have larger problems in their company, especially given all the leaks and hype they actively generated. 50% performance increase over 2080ti for 1/2 the cost? How does that not generate insane demand, especially when you stopped production of the 20 series?!).
 
It's like Steve Jobs saying you're holding the phone wrong when the engineers messed up the design. It's pretty arrogant and consumers are smart enough to read between the lines, which pushes people to other companies, like AMD. Transparency is always the best policy. I want to buy from a company that owns their mistakes, not one that actively tries to change the narrative and sweep them under the rug (hi, MSI, I'm talking about you too!).
</soapbox>
 
I think EVGA is doing the best they can with the crappy hand they were dealt by NVIDIA. Doesn't matter how many boards they have ready, you can't make a video card without a GPU, and that's 100% on NVIDIA. 


Nvidia/Samsung deal was in place since early 2019. Originally when they were making their deals they were trying to leverage TSMC to match or at least lower their prices. They didn't so they made their deal with Samsung. Earlier this year, around CES, they commented on how they underestimated what a performance increase N7 was. Rumors then point to them trying to secure supply for their gaming cards, but AMD had already swallowed up future production at that point. According to most sources, this hasn't been a slow ramp up or a paper launch. The demand is just multitudes greater than it ever has before. Which really shouldn't be surprising. GN had reported May (which had typically been the lowest point for tech sales of the year) had put how holiday like numbers and it only increased through the year. Your demands are actually insanely unreasonable. Most popular electronics have supply issues for months. Look at consoles. Nvidia had a relatively good handle on what demand was, which was why they didn't allow preorders. But it also didn't mean they should wait months to launch. The bot issues is what really screwed up the launch and I think for the most part is what was unexpected. I don't think Nvidia is blameless, but I also don't think they're the main issue. It is the resell market and it was unexpected by Nvidia and most distributors. It had never effected the GPU market like it has this time.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 18:10:16 (permalink)
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Yep, what seems to have happened here is that NVIDIA annoyed TSMC for some reason and went to Samsung late in the game, who has their own host of issues, and couldn't actually ramp up production on short notice. What's frustrating is the utter level of fragile ego on NVIDIA's part in not admitting that they have a big supply problem, or their decision to not delay the release just to please their shareholders. I mean, they could probably have even blamed it on Covid-19 supply chain issues and delayed the launch and they wouldn't get quite as beat up. Instead they blame consumers for "unexpected high demand". 
 
#1 rule of company ownership --> don't ever make it the consumer's problem. Saying it's "unexpected demand" when you only made like 1000 chips for a launch you know will have 100,000 early adopters is a bit of a stretch (and if they're saying they didn't forecast demand, they have larger problems in their company, especially given all the leaks and hype they actively generated. 50% performance increase over 2080ti for 1/2 the cost? How does that not generate insane demand, especially when you stopped production of the 20 series?!).
 
It's like Steve Jobs saying you're holding the phone wrong when the engineers messed up the design. It's pretty arrogant and consumers are smart enough to read between the lines, which pushes people to other companies, like AMD. Transparency is always the best policy. I want to buy from a company that owns their mistakes, not one that actively tries to change the narrative and sweep them under the rug (hi, MSI, I'm talking about you too!).
</soapbox>
 
I think EVGA is doing the best they can with the crappy hand they were dealt by NVIDIA. Doesn't matter how many boards they have ready, you can't make a video card without a GPU, and that's 100% on NVIDIA. 


Nvidia/Samsung deal was in place since early 2019. Originally when they were making their deals they were trying to leverage TSMC to match or at least lower their prices. They didn't so they made their deal with Samsung. Earlier this year, around CES, they commented on how they underestimated what a performance increase N7 was. Rumors then point to them trying to secure supply for their gaming cards, but AMD had already swallowed up future production at that point. According to most sources, this hasn't been a slow ramp up or a paper launch. The demand is just multitudes greater than it ever has before. Which really shouldn't be surprising. GN had reported May (which had typically been the lowest point for tech sales of the year) had put how holiday like numbers and it only increased through the year. Your demands are actually insanely unreasonable. Most popular electronics have supply issues for months. Look at consoles. Nvidia had a relatively good handle on what demand was, which was why they didn't allow preorders. But it also didn't mean they should wait months to launch. The bot issues is what really screwed up the launch and I think for the most part is what was unexpected. I don't think Nvidia is blameless, but I also don't think they're the main issue. It is the resell market and it was unexpected by Nvidia and most distributors. It had never effected the GPU market like it has this time.



I call shenanigans.  What you say would be true if stores were actually getting stock in consistently that was then selling out.  Stores going weeks without getting stock, and then when they do, it's cards in the single digits... is the definition of a "supply problem".  Your "sources" are just towing the company line.

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 18:10:34 (permalink)
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Its crazy there have been so many FTW3 card drops but we haven't seen any XC3 card drops. Are the XC3 cards ever going to be released to the public or at this point is it just vaporware? It's almost been a month since the 3080 launch. I'm still patiently waiting for ANY XC3 drops. 


XC3 did have a few drops but they were super small.  I wouldn't doubt it if it was 10 or less, but they were dropped.  Right now, Jacob is saying XC3's are next week.  I'm guessing it has something to do with the shipping/customs (China did just finish Golden week on the 8th and US had a federal holiday yesterday).  It just seems EVGA wasn't expecting a smaller shipment today because it felt like (based on their announcements last week), that XC3 and 3090's would be this week. 3090 is still on the table for like Friday possibly, but more likely everything is now next week.  

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 18:18:55 (permalink)
Are the XC3's going to be big next week? Like 100s, 1000s? Not just a handful?

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 18:20:34 (permalink)
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You could say the same for the old AMD chips too, like Bulldozer (looool), and yet here we are, with Ryzen being the default choice for many people and AMD set to take the performance crown while Intel - gasp - becomes the value brand, lol. The real issue is a DLSS competitor, which they said they're working on. As far as drivers ago, AMD gets it - they have PTSD from the last launch and apparently are not doubling down, but tripling down on launch drivers this time. So we'll see.
 
All it's going to take is techtubers giving a thumbs up on drivers and performance and people will nosedive for the AMD cards. If they manage a realistic DLSS competitor by next gen in two years, then things are going to get really interesting and I absolutely can't wait. I'll hopefully have a new monitor that supports freesync or gsync by then so I'll pretty much pick whatever manages to sit on top.


You’re the biggest AMD shill on this forum.

All AMD ever does is claim that they’re “going to fix things” when it comes to their drivers. But they’re always garbage. They still can’t even get basic functionalities right, and you’re expecting something similar to DLSS that actually works?

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Re: EVGA queue updates 2020/10/13 18:23:48 (permalink)
I laugh so hard every time he calls AMD the "performance crown." Getting a high score on an artificial benchmark is a neat feat, and I'll give them that, but in real world applications AMD chips tend to fall short of i9/i7. If you want I can find that information so I'm not just talking out of my butt.

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