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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/12 23:45:12 (permalink)
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I was wrong above when I questioned whether NVMe would work on both M.2 slots as others pointed out, sorry about that.  Also found according to page 19-20 of the manual both M.2 drives will function at NVMe speeds; however, the first M.2 will not work with SATA speeds, whereas the second will work with both NVMe or SATA. 




From the manual for the PM2

This connector can utilize only PCIe/NVMe-based M.2 SSDs, SATA M.2, or Intel® Optane™ NVMe devices.

 
Complete COPY PASTE from the X299 Dark manual and it is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
COMON EVGA PROOFREAD your CRAP!!
 
Before I totally put my foot in my mouth (probably too late) I have to back up here for a moment
I just found this in the X299 section in a thread for an EVGA X299 Micro 2 - https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2897298
I will quote that post:
EVGATech_RayH
For that motherboard, the M.2 Key-M does not support any SATA data transfer (X299 in general has very limited support for this). Platforms like Z390/370 may have Key-Ms with support for either PCIe or SATA M.2, but not for this board.
If the adapter you are referring to uses PCIe lanes to generate ports via a SATA controller on the adapter, then it would likely work. But I do not see the point of adding a SATA controller to a board that already has one. It sounds like a way to make a non-bootable drive with additional drive latency.


 
Which means someone is going to have to be the guinea pig and try an M.2 sata in the PM2 slot
post edited by GGTV-Jon - 2019/01/13 00:21:20


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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/12 23:55:18 (permalink)
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I was wrong above when I questioned whether NVMe would work on both M.2 slots as others pointed out, sorry about that.  Also found according to page 19-20 of the manual both M.2 drives will function at NVMe speeds; however, the first M.2 will not work with SATA speeds, whereas the second will work with both NVMe or SATA. 




From the manual for the PM2

This connector can utilize only PCIe/NVMe-based M.2 SSDs, SATA M.2, or Intel® Optane™ NVMe devices.

 
Complete COPY PASTE from the X299 Dark manual and it is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
COMON EVGA PROOFREAD your CRAP!!


So it doesn't run SATA speeds or they both do or what is wrong exactly? 


 
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/12 23:57:14 (permalink)
This is what I hate about Z390 and similar chipsets.

You only get 16 CPU lanes (usually all 16 are used by a graphics card) so you have to use the chipset lanes which then get bottlenecked by the DMI 3.0 link to the CPU.

Plus you can’t even utilize all the M.2 slots, SATA ports and the U.2 port at the same time.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/13 00:03:16 (permalink)
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I was wrong above when I questioned whether NVMe would work on both M.2 slots as others pointed out, sorry about that.  Also found according to page 19-20 of the manual both M.2 drives will function at NVMe speeds; however, the first M.2 will not work with SATA speeds, whereas the second will work with both NVMe or SATA. 




From the manual for the PM2

This connector can utilize only PCIe/NVMe-based M.2 SSDs, SATA M.2, or Intel® Optane™ NVMe devices.

 
Complete COPY PASTE from the X299 Dark manual and it is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
COMON EVGA PROOFREAD your CRAP!!


So it doesn't run SATA speeds or they both do or what is wrong exactly? 




See my edit above -
 
For speeds - yes the M.2 Sata will not perform to the speeds the NVME drive can
post edited by GGTV-Jon - 2019/01/13 00:20:21


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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/13 00:22:14 (permalink)
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This is what I hate about Z390 and similar chipsets.

You only get 16 CPU lanes (usually all 16 are used by a graphics card) so you have to use the chipset lanes which then get bottlenecked by the DMI 3.0 link to the CPU.

Plus you can’t even utilize all the M.2 slots, SATA ports and the U.2 port at the same time.



 
To be fair even on the 44 lane CPU's you still cannot use all the M.2 ports and U.2 ports, let alone all the sata ports at the same time


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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/13 09:16:38 (permalink)
Seeing that the Z390 Dark is readily available on the US store page (I guess not that many people had the patience to wait until now) how about offering some of those boards on the EU store page, you know before people here give up as well?
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/13 19:20:25 (permalink)
Any idea when this board will show up at Canadian retailers?

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/13 21:39:26 (permalink)
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I was wrong above when I questioned whether NVMe would work on both M.2 slots as others pointed out, sorry about that.  Also found according to page 19-20 of the manual both M.2 drives will function at NVMe speeds; however, the first M.2 will not work with SATA speeds, whereas the second will work with both NVMe or SATA. 




From the manual for the PM2

This connector can utilize only PCIe/NVMe-based M.2 SSDs, SATA M.2, or Intel® Optane™ NVMe devices.

 
Complete COPY PASTE from the X299 Dark manual and it is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
COMON EVGA PROOFREAD your CRAP!!


So it doesn't run SATA speeds or they both do or what is wrong exactly? 




See my edit above -
 
For speeds - yes the M.2 Sata will not perform to the speeds the NVME drive can


That's what I thought.  It would be nice to see a CDM score from someone who has two of the same NVMe drives plugged in to see the actual difference in speeds.  I don't have two identical NVMe drives to test or else I would post results.  They are probably close enough not to notice a difference really but I'm still curious.


 
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/14 16:18:53 (permalink)
A review of the board on [wccftech.com] of the Z390 Dark states: "Only two DDR4 DIMM slots populate the board, but each can support 32GB for a total of 64GB of memory. And yes, the EVGA Z390 Dark is future proof enough to support Intel’s 9th Gen CPUs."
 
But the spec sheet on the site here says: "Memory Type -DDR4 4600MHz,  Memory Capacity -32GB"
 
So does each slot support 32 or only 16 GB of memory?
For a total board memory capacity of 32 or 64 GB?
post edited by RonSMeyer - 2019/01/14 16:21:05
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/14 16:32:35 (permalink)
how would I go about using RGB from my EK Xres D5 and gpu waterblock with the z390 dark? are there any adapters?

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/14 16:33:49 (permalink)
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A review of the board on [wccftech.com] of the Z390 Dark states: "Only two DDR4 DIMM slots populate the board, but each can support 32GB for a total of 64GB of memory. And yes, the EVGA Z390 Dark is future proof enough to support Intel’s 9th Gen CPUs."
 
But the spec sheet on the site here says: "Memory Type -DDR4 4600MHz,  Memory Capacity -32GB"
 
So does each slot support 32 or only 16 GB of memory?
For a total board memory capacity of 32 or 64 GB?


well.  supported means tested and passed.  so answer is 16 gb X2 for a total of 32.    The manual says 32 gb max is currently supported.  

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/14 16:36:29 (permalink)
The board supports 32GB, but only in the configuration of 16GB x 2 sticks.
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 03:41:15 (permalink)
When will the motherboard be available for purchase on the EU website??
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 17:52:45 (permalink)
For those interested, the Z390 FTW is now available on Newegg Canada for $299 CDN.

Hopefully the Dark will be coming to Canadian retailers soon.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 18:12:49 (permalink)
I need this board to be available in the UK between now and the next 2 weeks or else i am F****D.
Pleaseeee evga make it happen.
If you know that it's not going to be available to buy by then, then please add some more to the US ebay store & i guess i'll have to suck it up and face the customs taxes but pretty much have no choice at that point.
DO IT FOR ME EVGA!!! Arghhh :'(
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 18:44:25 (permalink)
Installing Windows10 as we speak!

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 18:48:18 (permalink)
Can someone from evga tell me if i buy this from the US if i can still get the same warranty if i tried to claim through the EU evga?
Just noticing with the import fees etc works out to be the same as it will cost for the UK so i might as well just buy it now.
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/15 19:11:16 (permalink)
Well this was weird! For some reason the Windows 10 installation software recognized the NVME Slot 1 as Drive 2 and NVME Slot 2 as Drive 1! Installed it on the wrong NVME, doh! Reinstalling now.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 01:49:58 (permalink)
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Well this was weird! For some reason the Windows 10 installation software recognized the NVME Slot 1 as Drive 2 and NVME Slot 2 as Drive 1! Installed it on the wrong NVME, doh! Reinstalling now.


Interesting, I will have to keep an eye out for that when I hopefully get mine up and running later today.
Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 06:28:26 (permalink)
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Well this was weird! For some reason the Windows 10 installation software recognized the NVME Slot 1 as Drive 2 and NVME Slot 2 as Drive 1! Installed it on the wrong NVME, doh! Reinstalling now.


Interesting, I will have to keep an eye out for that when I hopefully get mine up and running later today.
Thanks for the heads up.




Fan speeds aren't showing up in Win10 either but bios is reading them fine,

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 07:16:03 (permalink)
Any news on when E-Leet will properly work with Z390 Dark? The voltage tab is garbage, changing anything in there results in freeze and it does not even show the default settings set from bios by default.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 07:18:14 (permalink)
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Any news on when E-Leet will properly work with Z390 Dark? The voltage tab is garbage, changing anything in there results in freeze and it does not even show the default settings set from bios by default.
you shouldnt be using it at all untill they release one for z390. U could damage your stuff, voltage stuff is completely different, probably why u instant freeze.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 07:18:16 (permalink)
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Any news on when E-Leet will properly work with Z390 Dark? The voltage tab is garbage, changing anything in there results in freeze and it does not even show the default settings set from bios by default.
you shouldnt be using it at all untill they release one for z390. U could damage your stuff, voltage stuff is completely different, probably why u instant freeze.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 07:27:44 (permalink)
well their own page says 1.0.6 for Z390

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 13:06:58 (permalink)
amazon.com started getting orders, looks like cheaper than evga but you need to wait
 

 
I' m curious about voltages, does anybody have the board running and started pushing 9900k with dark ?
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 13:24:04 (permalink)
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well their own page says 1.0.6 for Z390

Where is this? The page i get taken to doesnt have 1.0.6
Just all the old ones
 
 
my bad MY USB stick takes me to https://eu.evga.com/eleet/ for some reason where they do NOT have that
 
not https://www.evga.com/eleet/  with all the corect ones

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 17:33:57 (permalink)
I've been reading and consensus is that 1.4 is max voltage for kaby lake.   including the 9900K.   for benching purposes.  I think it may be necessary for a 5.3 overclock on my CPU.    anyone have an opinion? 
 
edit.  think I have my answer.   5.3 ghz needed at least 1.41 volts to achieve a cpu test without a freeze.  Had to terminate the test due to temps approaching 85C on water.   So I think 1.4 plus will be needed for 5.3 unless you have a golden chip.   just gets really hot on water at that point. 
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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/16 22:52:43 (permalink)
Peaks of 85c is fine, once u start hitting the 90s is where i draw the line

1.41 could be fine if thats dmm peak voltage, but if thats what u had to set I would maybe reconsider.

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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/17 09:33:39 (permalink)
dark in my case
 


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Re: EVGA Z390 Motherboards! 2019/01/17 09:34:58 (permalink)
dark in my case
 

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