running e758, flashed bios to 49 but read 50 in bios boot screen

I'm seeing a 5-15% decrease in GPU score when using 3DMark Vantage (in Extreme mode) when compared with the S61J BIOS - same settings all around (Turbo performance disabled.)  CPU score is identical, but the GPU component is definitely lower.

Not sure why a BIOS update would affect GPU scores like that.

Alex2190

curious as to why VT works for some but not all...oh well.

I'm not sure, but I reset the settings on the page to default, re-enabled VT, rebooted, and it works now. I also enabled Dummy OC.


edit: nm... it stopped working again. 

Isoar

Updated my X58 (760) and ...

1. WOW!  I cannot fathom how much faster Windows 7 started!  Like night and day!  Thanks!
2. I lost the pretty X58 full screen picture covering the ugly BIOS messages.  Any way to get it back?

No, that option is now gone because of ROM size limitation.

Moltenlava

shamino

Moltenlava

EVGA_JacobF

So the fact that with Turbo Performance enabled (along with Turbo Mode, SpeedStep and CxE Function set to C6 but its Turbo Performance that makes all the difference when it comes to the frequency of the 26x multi) I see my 26x multiplier on Core 0 alot more and without having to specifically load Core 0 on its own, is just a side effect?  Its definitely caused by Turbo Performance, with just turbo mode enabled i hardly see it, infact to make the 26x multi appear on core 0 I have to populously load Core 0 but if i enabled Turbo Performance i will see it appear pretty much constantly.

Alot of other people are seeing this also, those with 920's are seeing the 22x multi on Core 0 with turbo Performance enabled which is screwing up their OC's.

its you setting cxe having to do more with it. they have cxe enabled in their bios 150%, even if they disable 'turbo performance'.
it has nothing to do with core multipliers.

shamino


no turbo performance has nothjing to do with turbo mode, it's just a tweak to make gulftown perf slightly faster. you can call it tweak performance, etc  just happened to think of turbo due to terminology cliches

 
So perhaps the confusion is that this is a specific Gultown/32nm Westmere tweak, probably related to the new instruction set Intel is adding in ( called Advanced Encrytion Standard New Instructions (AES-NI) : http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-advanced-encryption-standard-aes-instructions-set/ )?
 
Since most of us are using 45nm Bloomfields and not Gulftowns, we shouldn't be trying to enable this feature?

Davabled

shamino


no turbo performance has nothjing to do with turbo mode, it's just a tweak to make gulftown perf slightly faster. you can call it tweak performance, etc  just happened to think of turbo due to terminology cliches

 
So perhaps the confusion is that this is a specific Gultown/32nm Westmere tweak, probably related to the new instruction set Intel is adding in ( called Advanced Encrytion Standard New Instructions (AES-NI) : http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-advanced-encryption-standard-aes-instructions-set/ )?
 
Since most of us are using 45nm Bloomfields and not Gulftowns, we shouldn't be trying to enable this feature?

default is disabled, so if you change that you are 'tweaking' and with all 'tweaking' its trial and error.

not really man, but as to your question , yes enabling it for bloomfield should yield no benefit and may have the 2:8 ratio limitation with bloomfield.,

shamino

not really man, but as to your question , yes enabling it for bloomfield should yield no benefit and may have the 2:8 ratio limitation with bloomfield.,

Very much apreciate the clarification shamino, I'll update the notes in the BIOS changelog for the E759.

THANK SWEET BABY JESUS FOR THIS BIOS!!!!!!! *AND I'M AN ANTHIEST!!!!!!!*

No more double pumping with Virtuilization enabled. No more system hangs.... no more bsods, no more lock ups... no more freezes!!!!! Its just epic! This bios just works for this board!!!!!

I updated and have had absolutely no issues since, In fact after updating I cranked up the qpi to 185 and it booted on the first try and completed linX @ 20 passes with no issues. I love this bios!!!!! Thanks EVGA!!!!!

You finally got this one right ;-)

The only issues I've come to notice is that the turbo performance feature is still a hit or miss for most. and the system reads this bios as version '50' on boot up. Not bios 49 like the file and the thread both suggest.

Other than that I'm one freaking happy camper right now. This is how I always imagined my system to run.

Also note my vantage score increased a couple of hundred points as well.

Again great job Evga. I won;t be upgrading to a newer bios for a LONG LONG time now.....and if I do....I'll be sure to hold onto this one as a back-up. ^^

darrell262

Ok, Just to fully understand. What does Turbo performance do?

Turbo mode monitors the chip temperature.  When the temp falls below a threshold, it raises the clock speed to gain some performance.  The faster clocking will raise the chip temperature.  When the temp goes above a threshold, the Turbo logic drops the clock back down a notch.  It was designed for casual users.  I think the overclockers will probably shut it off because they are tailoring their clocks at the hairy edge.

Moltenlava

shamino

Moltenlava

EVGA_JacobF

So the fact that with Turbo Performance enabled (along with Turbo Mode, SpeedStep and CxE Function set to C6 but its Turbo Performance that makes all the difference when it comes to the frequency of the 26x multi) I see my 26x multiplier on Core 0 alot more and without having to specifically load Core 0 on its own, is just a side effect?  Its definitely caused by Turbo Performance, with just turbo mode enabled i hardly see it, infact to make the 26x multi appear on core 0 I have to populously load Core 0 but if i enabled Turbo Performance i will see it appear pretty much constantly.

Alot of other people are seeing this also, those with 920's are seeing the 22x multi on Core 0 with turbo Performance enabled which is screwing up their OC's.

its you setting cxe having to do more with it. they have cxe enabled in their bios 150%, even if they disable 'turbo performance'.
it has nothing to do with core multipliers.

Sorry there seems to be a bit of miscommunication, which i can understand, as your not really getting what i am trying to say, I am not saying that turbo Performance enables the 2x bin multiplier I am saying that if you enable Turbo Performance it "forces" or atleast allows the 2x bin multiplier to show up alot more.

I know CxE Function is needed to make the 2x bin multiplier show up but there is a huge difference in the frequency (how often it kicks in) of the 2x bin multiplier on Core 0 by Enabling Turbo performance.  I am not talking about it working or not working it will work with or without Turbo Performance enabled and it wont work at all if you disable CxE Function but if you have CxE Function enabled to allow the 2x bin multiplier as soon as you enable Turbo Performance you will see he 2x bin multiplier show up on Core 0 nearly all the time where with Turbo Performance disabled you almost never see it even with CxE Function enabled.

It definitely shows up mpre with Turbo Performance enabled, its making some difference even if its not meant to.

I know all about the 2x bin multiplier and how to get it, i was able to get it before Turbo Performance but it was a very rare occurance due to Intels criteria on enabling it (2 or more cores idle/turned off, heavy single threaded on Core 0)

Again

With these settings the 26x multiplier doesnt show up at all unless i specifically load 1 core (it may very very very rarely just show up)
Turbo Mode [Enabled]
SpeedStep [Enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [disabled]

now just by changing Turbo Mode to enabled you then see the 2x bin (26cx multiplier in my case nearly all the time and its not just an Eleet or CPU-Z GUI error as those with high BClock overclocks on thwe 920 are experiencing BSOD's when their 2x bin multiplier (22x for the 920) kicks in

So with these settings compared to the ones above the 2x bin multi (26x for 965) appears almost all the time without any additional work

Turbo Mode [Enabled]
SpeedStep [Enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [Enabled]

I am not the only one who has witnessed this and i am sure if you turn CxE Function off it will stop as that is one of the actual settings needed for the 2x bin to show up at all but for some reason enabling Turbo Performance makes it show up alot more.

from what you have said I will take it that its just a side effect and unless your running a Gulftown to disable Turbo Mode but it might be worth you investigating.

Do these settings
Turbo Mode [Enabled]
SpeedStep [Enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [disabled]

and then these

Turbo Mode [Enabled]
SpeedStep [Enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [Enabled]

and note the different in frequency (how often it appears) of the 2x bin multiplier (22x on 920, 26x on 965) I am sure you will notice with Turbo Performance enabled it appears alot more than it normally would.

I understand now that turbo Performance was not meant for the 45nm Bloomfield but whatever changes it making seems to have a side effect on the Bloomfield Turbo Mode and more specifically the 2x bin Turbo Mode multiplier.  I will leave it disabled from now on but it may be the beginning of a new feature for the Bloomfield although its questionable how useful it would be as anyone with a 920 just seem to get BSOD's due to the high BClocks the run but anyone running stock or a low BClock OC might be able to use this.

shamino

got cha moltie.
but with this cxe thingy, you cant fulfill both sides, the overclockers want it off, whiule you want it on for the reviewers who just load defaults and compare

EDIT Shamino are you saying Turbo Performance automatically enables CxE Function?  This may be where the confusion is.

he he, seems still a little work needs to be done, i am not really saying anything about CxE Function itself apart from i understand how it ties into Turbo Mode and the 2x bin multiplier.

All i am really talking about is Turbo Performance and the fact it "forces" the 2x bin to show up alot more often and i realise that this is not what turbo Performance was intended to do but this is what happens if you enable it with a Bloomfield.

Turbo Mode [enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [disabled]

= 2x bin hardly ever shows up on Core 0, need to force a load on Core 0 to see it most of the time

Turbo Mode [enabled]
CxE Function [C6]
Turbo Performance [enabled]

= 2x bin shows up nearly all the time Core 0

You see what i am getting at as a side effect of Turbo Performance being enabled it somehow "forces" the 2x bin to activate on Core 0 above what it would normally do with just Turbo Mode + CxE Function enabled.

Dont worry this will be the last time i try to explain this, i realise that its not meant for Bloomfield it just has an interesting "side-effect" on them.

shamino

no that option has nothing to do with cxe, im talking about good and bad of 2 binned multipliers- reviewer vs o/cer.

Ok

I know you say Turbo Performance should have no benefit on a Bloomfield

There is a benefit though, if you enable Turbo Performance on a Bloomfield it "forces" that 2x bin to show up nearly all the time, Turbo performance is making that difference on my 965.  If i have turbo Mode + CxE Function enabled I dont ever see the 26x multiplier unless i force a 100% load Core 0.

If i then enable Turbo Performance the 26x multiplier (2x bin) activates/kicks in nearly all the time without me trying to load anything on purpose, just normal use, with Turbo Performance disabled and normal use you pretty much never see the 2x bin.

those with 920's who never knew the 22x multiplier existed, even those who use CxE Function yet since they have (mistakingly) started enabling Turbo Performance with BIOS 44+ they have started getting BSOD's due to the 22x multiplier.

Turbo Performance does have an effect on Bloomfield and this is "forcing" the 2x bin to activate alot more often.

I am not complaining we dont see the 2x bin more i am just saying that the new feature Turbo Performance seems to make the 2x bin activate alot more than it normally would.

Aslong as you understand what i mean thats all i am trying to do here. I realise such an option for Bloomfield might not be that desirable on an Overcloking board and Turbo Performance is meant for Gulftown not Bloomfield