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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 20:50:14 (permalink)
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Post some pics of both boards Donta, I would like to see how they look, and of course, give us your opinions about them.



Well lost a couple hard drives a DVD slim drive "That is no longer being made mind you that is exclusive for this case!", So yeah I am not a happy camper with this whole thing.... Oh add 2x psu's on top of it corsair 1000hx and an Antec TPQ 1200 Correction make that Three PSU's on this board I had a thermaltake thoughpower  10000w that randomly died like the corsair 1000hx. on this board.... I just remembered it looking at someone elses build....
to top it off took the measurements of the molex cable and I will not be able to put it into the Classified 3 so its sitting in its box... unless I want to hack at my case to make room but ummm no... It does erk me that I lost this much hardware because of a 759 board not having a simple molex cable put on. Nor did we get warned.

Now my Take on the ASUS Rampage III I got.
1.  A way better design aka onboard sound, smarter location of buttons and Testing spots. The Molex location for the pcie slots....
2. Actually running cooler than my classified did nb/vreg
3. The options in the motherboards bios all I can say is wow I am overwhelmed with toys but not flooded with the toys I don't care about. 
4. Takes less voltage to overclock my cpu
5. My cpu actually runs at its rated speed and so does my ram, my qpi is no longer 132.7 it runs at 133.5 my ram instead of running at under 798.xx meaning under 1600 now it runs just over its 1600 speed 1602.2 so 801.1. So yet something else on the classified. So the frequencies run where they should be or just over what they should be=) Oh my cpu actually runs at its 3.33ghz isntead of 332XX.xxmhz at stock and my 4ghz oc is really a 4ghz oc not a 3.9xxghz
Just a well thought out board to be honest.
6. CPU runs at stock  with lower voltage
7. it cost 80 dollars less than a Classified 3 meaning a 299 price tag for a superior board it may not have all the appealing looks but it makes up for that with everything else "minus the no onboard post code display"
8. Setting up ram is easier
9. Less bios ironing out due this boards extreme overclocking features "using ln2 and so on" are not in the bios they are enabled though jumpers/buttons on the board.
10 I was in and out of the Asus bios in 8 seconds up and going
11. the Molex location for the pcie lanes is not in a bad location easy to get to, easy to plug the cable in unlike the classified 3 where I would have no chance in hell unless I got a special adapter made or a special slim one made by Silverstone... or bought a psu just for that purpose in mind with a shorter wires running along the side instead of out its top like most molex cables on psu's. So those of you with bottom psu's or a sliver of space between the mobo and the bottom of your case this board would be the better choice...

Pros of the EVGA X58 Classified
After owning a 759 Classified, knowing the layout of the classified 3" have both sitting next to me" I do have to say the Rampage III is the better board. The only thing the classified has on this board is configuration with pcie slots meaning 3 way sli with a 1 slot card for physx, A higher quality cpu mounting system for looks on the classified, 2x cpu 8 pin connectors, IDE. EVGA's Bios is more user friendly for the novice and even the more advanced overclockers. EVGA's bios is more organized but too many extra features to be handled in the bios. And of course the post display that is the one thing that is superior to the Rampage III

The ASUS Rampage III is not lacking features by any means for overclocking/bios options
The EVGA bios is more of a hold your hand bios where the ASUS bios is more you better know what you're doing. But the Rampage III has an auto configuration system for 4ghz overclock enable and a 4.2ghz overclock enable=) Just enable and go and it works interesting enough. Ram not as much tweaking to get it to run at the speed it is supposed to run with the asus board. I was able to fire up this thing out of the box all I had to do was just set my ram timings/speed that was it, it can do it for me though, where my classified could not. Also the bios is really easy to figure out though, knowing nothing about their bios I was able to go in and tweak what I wanted/needed to.

So where the ASUS Rampage III lacks in small things that most will not use nor want it that the EVGA Classified minus EVGA's onboard post code readout. That is my only real complaint but other than that it's really an awesome board. Is it better than the Classified 759/760/770?

Now back to the issue at hand.... I am thankful for EVGA giving me a classified 3 it's a nice looking board, but its lacking.... in more ways than one. It was a great gesture of you to give me the board as a replacement for my faulty designed 759 board that somehow though one of my components I am running the ideal setup for failure of the 759/760. Guessing the 2x GTX 480's fans, all my accessories and so on played a great role in this... But I do not like the fact in a sense its being hushed in what setups cause this.  Also the fact this is allowed to go on until failure what if the psu catches fire, or their computer? Or even their house because they are not there to stop it before it really starts? Not saying it's your fault, all vendors put out boards like this but others where hot to trot to fix it with newer boards. Also not giving a real answer of those that ask will they be at risk for a failure. Is really not what a customer wants to get or hear for a response. Some are worried about RMA cost of other components, being without computers possibly, paying for rmas, replacing or buying new components all together. If you don't tell them up front if they are at risk they will just go buy a new brand of board they know is safe for their setup. Meaning a none EVGA board.


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Just wonder as I am looking into getting a new board, don't want to take the chance on something going up in smoke.
 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:21:31 (permalink)
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are you the extreme or the formula

Just wonder as I am looking into getting a new board, don't want to take the chance on something going up in smoke.



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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:43:37 (permalink)
all that I can say is that I ran a 760 and three 480's plus a 465, and did not notice any issues, is it possible that only some of the boards are prone to this issue?

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:45:33 (permalink)
all i know is i am going to an asus board next week, I am not taking the chance on this. Anyone wants to buy a used 759 board cheap

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:46:26 (permalink)
Just curious Donta...what kind of Temps you get on the NB on that Board and did you find a significant drop in overall Voltages for your OC?

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:47:47 (permalink)
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:48:50 (permalink)
Just curious Donta...what kind of Temps you get on the NB on that Board and did you find a significant drop in overall Voltages for your OC?
 
Was thinking about this the other day (before I got into this thread) whether it was wise to leave my Rig Stress Testing an OC while I go into town for a few hours.....hhhhmhmmm

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:55:46 (permalink)
@rjbaker NB temps are about 45-50c Yes a big nice drop in voltages, but the thing with asus boards is they have alot and I mean alot of options in the bios for overclocking its not as cut/dry as evga but its way more effective. Its really an amazing board=) But there is alot of new stuff to learn. But its alot easier to get it up and going over a classified... I also like the fact my stuff actually runs to full spec now well a little over but i hated seeing 3.98ghz on a 4ghz oc.... and my ram running under 1600... because evga for some reason has thier bios/mobos underclock the frequency of your qpi.... by .3 132.7.... something that has annoyed me for awhile and now I dont have to even deal with it.
 
@Bruno its particular configurations with GTX 480's EVGA will not tell us what combination it is... the 759 and 760's are prone to have this happen just have to have that right combination to start the cook off even other vendors old ethusiast model x58's without the molex can have this happen...
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:56:12 (permalink)
I have a couple GTX 260's in SLI, the SSC editions.  The 24 pin connector is the coolest piece in my case....LOL.  Granted it's not 2 or 3 GTX 480's but running cool non the less.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 21:56:38 (permalink)
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are you the extreme or the formula

Just wonder as I am looking into getting a new board, don't want to take the chance on something going up in smoke.



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Awesome board tbh=)

That is a pretty sweet looking board. I am glad you were able to have your system running again. and thanks again for posting your thoughts about both boards.
 
 
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all that I can say is that I ran a 760 and three 480's plus a 465, and did not notice any issues, is it possible that only some of the boards are prone to this issue?

I totally agree with you on this, hopefully EVGA is working on a Bios that can fix this problem. 

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 22:09:00 (permalink)
A bios wont really fix it once you hit that combination of the right hardware it slowly starts to happen... There is no magically doing a bios fix to add more voltage for the gpus though a none existant molex pin on the board.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 22:25:51 (permalink)
I just went and dug my old HX 1 kW out of the closet and I can report no signs of any anomalies at all on the 24 Pin plug....
 
That Rampage III Extreme is on sale right now for $377
http://www.bestdirect.ca/...%20III%20Extreme/ASUS/
...the Classy3 (although not in Stock yet at NCIX) is listed for $418...
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 22:35:21 (permalink)
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I just went and dug my old HX 1 kW out of the closet and I can report no signs of any anomalies at all on the 24 Pin plug....



Because it does not happen right away, it takes weeks to months to happen. The price on the Classified 3 has already dropped on the egg.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/08 22:55:03 (permalink)
I ran the set-up below (OC'd 920 instead of 980X) from April (when I got the 2 x 480's) through to about 2 wks ago (when I replaced the 920 and the HX for an AX)...previous to the 2 x 480's (April), for about a year and half I ran my OC'd 920 with Tri Sli 280's on the same HX and 759 Board.....hhhmmmm....we'll see, I'm planning a "clean install" of W7 next month, so just may replace this ole Board while I'm at it...

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 06:43:07 (permalink)
I looked at my plug to and it is still ok have a E760 and two GTX 480s the pins are number 10 and 11 on the 24 pin main plug.
will check to see how hot the plug gets.
Sorry about your system and power supplys going up in smoke
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 07:52:33 (permalink)
Here is my dilemma, I bought the 759 board for a one reason, to run tri-sli 16x on all three lanes. So my only option with the available boards is to buy the 4way board. But I already have my 759 mb for about 1.5 years and have a waterblock on it. Not only do I have to buy a new mb but also modify my case to fit the 4-way and reload windows which I really hate doing. There has to be a better solution.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:10:22 (permalink)
I have a question, everyone mentions the 759/760, is the 758 affected as well?  The 758 never had the extra GPU power connection on it either, I'm wondering if the 758 is susceptible, and if not, why?

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:26:34 (permalink)
Still seeing that everyone is posting about 480's , has anyone experinced this with tri-470's ? I will not be purchising untill tax refund time, ( more than enough time to see what happens, and what others do ) ; might go Tri-460's even though my intention when I bought the board was Tri 480's. also not sure if the refresh 400 series with the smaller Die will solve this, it's due first Qtr next year.

  
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:30:18 (permalink)
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Still seeing that everyone is posting about 480's , has anyone experinced this with tri-470's ? I will not be purchising untill tax refund time, ( more than enough time to see what happens, and what others do ) ; might go Tri-460's even though my intention when I bought the board was Tri 480's. also not sure if the refresh 400 series with the smaller Die will solve this, it's due first Qtr next year.
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:40:56 (permalink)
Falcon,

Do any of those mb's do 3way sli with all lanes 16x? Because as far as I saw the rampage definantly does not!
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:47:52 (permalink)
The P6T7 does - It looks like the others do not.
 
I am curious of the differences in the Rampage III Extreme and standard Formula board.




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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 10:56:44 (permalink)
So basically anyone running SLI\Tri SLI setup with GTX 470\480 series GPU's on a motherboard with out the extra molex power on it for the PCI lanes is running a risk of a 24pin melt down ?
 
Is this only happening to 480's ?
 
Was really looking forward to grabbing some 470's.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:00:48 (permalink)
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So basically anyone running SLI\Tri SLI setup with GTX 470\480 series GPU's on a motherboard with out the extra molex power on it for the PCI lanes is running a risk of a 24pin melt down ?

Is this only happening to 480's ?

Was really looking forward to grabbing some 470's.


As of right now all we know is some type of setup with GTX 480's 2 or 3 that some how causes this... no vendor is releasing details.  It did it with 2x cards on my setup, a core i7 980x/965 and 12gigs of ram with 3-6 hard drives installed at a time. Not sure what else will trip it off extra fans plugged into the mobo? who knows.... you would have to do some research with the 470's we do know they pull 5w too much for the board but its not as much as the GTX 480.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:03:48 (permalink)
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My last experience with asus is why I only buy evga mb's.  Goodluck to you if you do get one and hope that you never have to send it in for service.


Page 5=) sweet board better than my classified was/is =) only complaint would prob be the no post display board and I dont think thier warranty will live up to EVGA's. But other than that all of its features, options well just read my post=).

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:05:47 (permalink)
Thanks donta. I think i might hold off on upgrading anything for a bit.

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:16:48 (permalink)
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My last experience with asus is why I only buy evga mb's.  Goodluck to you if you do get one and hope that you never have to send it in for service.


Page 5=) sweet board better than my classified was/is =) only complaint would prob be the no post display board and I dont think thier warranty will live up to EVGA's. But other than that all of its features, options well just read my post=).


rona brought up a good option.  If you purchase the extended warranty from the egg then you never have to deal with ASUS.  I will remember that one for the future.  I'm glad it's all working out for you in the long run donta. 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:23:46 (permalink)
Won't let me quote here at work for some reason, but
"Well its not something that is always going to happen=) But when it does it sucks. At least it was just the mobo and the 24pin that melted and burned and not the house..."
 
Very very true. Always best to look at the big picture sometimes. Fortunately only hardware was spread, albeit that is terrible in its own right.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:32:39 (permalink)
From EVGA tech support, " This is not a case of eventuality but it is a possibility. It has been found to happen in some circumstances but no common thread has been found. We are working with other manufacturers to figure it out. Please know we will work with you if this problem does arise" (I might have paraphrased some, but that's the gist of it. So I guess I gave been lucky sp far and will have to pay more attention to the 14 pin connector, since Evga won't let me step up to 4way sli. Btw I'm not saying they should but it would be nice!

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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 11:36:24 (permalink)
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From EVGA tech support, " This is not a case of eventuality but it is a possibility. It has been found to happen in some circumstances but no common thread has been found. We are working with other manufacturers to figure it out. Please know we will work with you if this problem does arise" (I might have paraphrased some, but that's the gist of it. So I guess I gave been lucky sp far and will have to pay more attention to the 14 pin connector, since Evga won't let me step up to 4way sli. Btw I'm not saying they should but it would be nice!

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they pretty much wont do anything until you run into what I have and others have. the melted 24 pin and the board not working because of it. It litterally takes the board melting because it kills some psu's out right  others the ones that dont buckle from this do fail in a sense but will keep chugging and will start melting the 24 pins.

 
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Re:EVGA X58 759 Classifed Limited Edition #551 down... going to get an ASUS....=/ 2010/10/09 12:04:46 (permalink)
No need to reload windows. I just uninstalled the networksdrivers for the realtekcrap and swapped the 759 and put the 762 in place.
Cleards CMOS and upped ICH and IOH to 1.2V and installed fresh mb-driver and new networksdriver for marvel. Then irt runs like it have done it forever so no sign of 759 in windows in terms of drivercrap left behind. 
I am going to do it from the start when i get my third Vertex 2 back from RMA but you can swap one mb for another with no need for new install of windows. 
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