The fan controllers that monitor system temps, maybe someone should attach one of the sensors on the 24pin to see how hot it gets.
 

Oh snap lol just went over your post again....
But anyways, it can happen at stock settings.... w/ some super secret squirrel combination that now about a month or so no one knows nor is anyone told the issue is in this, the issue was discovered by evga while the boad was in testing/development. But sold the board anyways at the time it was only ati card configs now its ati/nvidia configs. At least its out in the open here and people have options. As for being happy for getting a 770 board from a 759 not really but I know i dont have to do it again nor do i have to pull out all my soldering tools....  759 owners who payed 450-500+ some even more  and what the 759 offers over the 770 its a downgrade but whatever. Trust me if you have vital data that you even backed up and it got lost because x named company didnt make this issue officially public your not a happy camper, esp after you spend about 400+ in shipping on rmas....

maniacvvv


As posted I will be sending a formal official letter to EVGA requesting a replacement.
EVGA will have 30 days in which to respond "in good faith" to my request.
Failure to do so, to my personal satisfaction... will result in formal legal action.

The relevent California law:
http://www.harp.org/clra.htm
California Civil Code 1750 (Consumers legal Remedies Act)


As you can clearly read in the law, EVGA must either replace my motherboard.. or be subject to very expensive fines.

Section 1784 (a) and (b)

• (a) proves that such violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwithstanding the use of reasonable procedures adopted to avoid any such error and
• (b) makes an appropriate correction, repair or replacement or other remedy of the goods and services according to the provisions of subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 1782.

 

Either that, or EVGA will be forking over huge piles of cash not only to me, but to all effected owners of these defective motherboards.

Under Section 1782

• (1) All consumers similarly situated have been identified, or a reasonable effort to identify such other consumers has been made.
• (2) All consumers so identified have been notified that upon their request such person shall make the appropriate correction, repair, replacement or other remedy of the goods and services.
• (3) The correction, repair, replacement or other remedy requested by such consumers has been, or, in a reasonable time, shall be, given.
• (4) Such person has ceased from engaging, or if immediate cessation is impossible or unreasonably expensive under the circumstances, such person will, within a reasonable time, cease to engage, in such methods, act, or practices.

 
THAT MEANS---> EVGA will notifiy all owners, stop selling and recall all defective products.

Its the LAW

Also I will point out to any Mods reading this, that under (SB Code 1234) Section 5 (a).
Any actions taken againt me for posting this information, including (but not limited to) banning my Fourm account or interfearing in any way with my postings on this subject -is expressly forbidden- under California law.
 
---EVGA and its Fourm Mods are hearby notified of that, and a screen shot has been taken of this post.---

Have a nice day

 
 
 
WOW you guys are that upset over this huh... well say goodbye to EVGA then if this is what it has come down to.

maniacvvv



As posted I will be sending a formal official letter to EVGA requesting a replacement.
EVGA will have 30 days in which to respond "in good faith" to my request.
Failure to do so, to my personal satisfaction... will result in formal legal action.

I urge every concerned owner of the effected boards in question to due the same. 

The relevent California law:
http://www.harp.org/clra.htm
California Civil Code 1750 (Consumers legal Remedies Act)


As you can clearly read in the law, EVGA must either replace my motherboard.. or be subject to very expensive fines.

Section 1784 (a) and (b)

• (a) proves that such violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwithstanding the use of reasonable procedures adopted to avoid any such error and
• (b) makes an appropriate correction, repair or replacement or other remedy of the goods and services according to the provisions of subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 1782.

 

Either that, or EVGA will be forking over huge piles of cash not only to me, but to all effected owners of these defective motherboards.

Under Section 1782

• (1) All consumers similarly situated have been identified, or a reasonable effort to identify such other consumers has been made.
• (2) All consumers so identified have been notified that upon their request such person shall make the appropriate correction, repair, replacement or other remedy of the goods and services.
• (3) The correction, repair, replacement or other remedy requested by such consumers has been, or, in a reasonable time, shall be, given.
• (4) Such person has ceased from engaging, or if immediate cessation is impossible or unreasonably expensive under the circumstances, such person will, within a reasonable time, cease to engage, in such methods, act, or practices.

 
THAT MEANS---> EVGA will notifiy all owners, stop selling and recall all defective products.

Its the LAW

Also I will point out to any Mods reading this, that under (SB Code 1234) Section 5 (a).
Any actions taken againt me for posting this information, including (but not limited to) banning my Fourm account or interfearing in any way with my postings on this subject -is expressly prohibited- under California law.
 
---EVGA and its Fourm Mods are hearby notified of that, and a screen shot has been taken of this post.---

Have a nice day

 
Geeez dude, take the kids out for pizza or something will ya??.... LOL

I know that with the hardware I have attached if I lost it due to a melted PSU and lost my drives and/or anything else. Pissed can't even begin to describe it knowing that they've known the issue for over a year. I am not one to bash EVGA, I have pages and pages of products from them, GPU's, MOBO's, etc etc. But this is a serious problem for alot of people. I am sitting here waiting on a fix before I purchase any more hardware but at the rate we are going now on a fix the next chipset will come out first. Which might be the whole reason they seem to not want to fix this issue anyway. 

SiriusDragon

@maniacvvv:
You *could* have contacted them directly (eg. phone, email, fax, letter, carrier pigeon...), but instead you make a big deal on their forum! Bravo! Very mature! And totally not enforcing the stereotype of Americans being a litigious bunch.

 
Huh?
 
I may not agree with maniac's "how," but I do agree with his thought process as to "why."  I believe he did state that he would be contacting EVGA in an "official letter."  
 
Is this not "their forum" for us to voice our opinions?  Your argument about his maturity could also be reversed to show how immature your reply was.  Is there a stereotype associated with your comments?  My opinion is yes.

maniacvvv
As posted I will be sending a formal official letter to EVGA requesting a replacement.
EVGA will have 30 days in which to respond "in good faith" to my request.
Failure to do so, to my personal satisfaction... will result in formal legal action.
I urge every concerned owner of the effected boards in question to due the same. 

The relevent California law:
http://www.harp.org/clra.htm
California Civil Code 1750 (Consumers legal Remedies Act)
As you can clearly read in the law, EVGA must either replace my motherboard.. or be subject to very expensive fines.
Section 1784 (a) and (b)

• (a) proves that such violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwithstanding the use of reasonable procedures adopted to avoid any such error and
• (b) makes an appropriate correction, repair or replacement or other remedy of the goods and services according to the provisions of subdivisions (b) and (c) of Section 1782.

Either that, or EVGA will be forking over huge piles of cash not only to me, but to all effected owners of these defective motherboards.
Under Section 1782

• (1) All consumers similarly situated have been identified, or a reasonable effort to identify such other consumers has been made.
• (2) All consumers so identified have been notified that upon their request such person shall make the appropriate correction, repair, replacement or other remedy of the goods and services.
• (3) The correction, repair, replacement or other remedy requested by such consumers has been, or, in a reasonable time, shall be, given.
• (4) Such person has ceased from engaging, or if immediate cessation is impossible or unreasonably expensive under the circumstances, such person will, within a reasonable time, cease to engage, in such methods, act, or practices.

THAT MEANS---> EVGA will notifiy all owners, stop selling and recall all defective products.

Its the LAW

Also I will point out to any Mods reading this, that under (SB Code 1234) Section 5 (a).
Any actions taken againt me for posting this information, including (but not limited to) banning my Fourm account or interfearing in any way with my postings on this subject -is expressly prohibited- under California law.
 
---EVGA and its Fourm Mods are hearby notified of that, and a screen shot has been taken of this post.---

Have a nice day

Good luck with the lawsuit - I think you'd have a better chance suing the graphics card makers, since it is the huge power draw of the cards that (allegedly) melts the molex, and the cards capable of doing so were designed AFTER the motherboards were designed. 
 
If you don't understand the relevance of this comment, I suggest you ask your lawyer.
 

dont know if this will help but found a link to a pci-e mod for power -http://vr-zone.com/print/...-booster-mod/3101.html
 
also others with issues and some info on this subject. google goes on and on with pages and pages of this issue.
 
http://www.overclockers.c...howthread.php?t=651336
http://www.overclock.net/...mobo-sli-gtx-480s.html
http://www.xtremesystems....howthread.php?t=243670
http://forums.nvidia.com/...9&showtopic=170361
http://www.motherboardpoi...connector-t151553.html

 

Ok so last night i borrowed a 480 from my friends rig and ran it with my 480 SC along with a gts 450 for phyx on my E758 to do some tests after reading this long thread. My results were anything but pleasing. I found that running this config with my HX1000 made the 24pin connector heat up a substantial amount. enough to really worry. however there has been no melting as of yet and not sure there will be, but over a period of time it is very possible. Contacted EVGA to give them my findings and was instructed that "there are no known confirmed issues of this happening to any of there products under normal conditions." however if found to be an issue with my board they could help me out. Like I said it is not a problem as of yet, but being the E758 board heats up the 24pin like this I can imagine the classy boards could be worse. I am not confirming that the E758 boards do the same as the MB's in question, Im just stating my results that i have conducted toward this issue.

zalbard
All boards before that have no molex.

 
And as I pointed out, very few after have the molex either... just the Rampage 3 pretty much. Which the Classy 3 competes with anyway... and the Classy 3 has the molex too!
 
If ASUS knew about it earlier, I'm supprised they didn't add more molex connectors to all of their new 3-way capable boards, instead of just the Rex3 :)
 
So applying that logic to ASUS's board lineup... only 3 are 3-way capable. P6T7, Rex3 Formula, Rex3 Extreme.
 
Sure would suck to have any of those other boards, they might explode like a Classified

jrmitchell1983

Ok so last night i borrowed a 480 from my friends rig and ran it with my 480 SC along with a gts 450 for phyx on my E758 to do some tests after reading this long thread. My results were anything but pleasing. I found that running this config with my HX1000 made the 24pin connector heat up a substantial amount. enough to really worry. however there has been no melting as of yet and not sure there will be, but over a period of time it is very possible. Contacted EVGA to give them my findings and was instructed that "there are no known confirmed issues of this happening to any of there products under normal conditions." however if found to be an issue with my board they could help me out. Like I said it is not a problem as of yet, but being the E758 board heats up the 24pin like this I can imagine the classy boards could be worse. I am not confirming that the E758 boards do the same as the MB's in question, Im just stating my results that i have conducted toward this issue.

 
EVGA QUOTE
"there are no known confirmed issues of this happening to any of there products under normal conditions."
Hows that for doublespeak?
 
 
--->And you guys are missing the point. EVGA knows about this problem... but does NOT tell its customers.
 
For those that know about this issue.. we now know it can happen and we are forced to keep an eye out for it and not run our systems in such a manner to stress the connection...
 
What about the poor guy who has NO IDEA this could happen?
I went out and bought $1000 worth of parts that I now cannot use properly... but at least I wont burn up my system, because I KNOW (now) there is a problem.
 
Pity the poor guy who has no idea... and totally burns his expensive stuff up or maybe even his house or loved ones. 
 
Thats what my ANGER is all about
 
These boards are for sale TODAY at the EVGA webite and all over the net. Please show me where EVGA is properly telling its paying customers about the burning, melting, component destroying defect?
 
Its like the guy said a few pages ago in this thread...
"hey, I just bought one of these boards out of BStock at EVGA"
"I had no idea about this problem"
"if I had known about it, I would have bought a different motherboard with a molex"
 
THAT is what is wrong, and THAT is why I am taking action. The same thing happened to me....
 
 
 

Some one said that they sold 80,000 boards at 2% failure
that is still 1600 people very mad at what is going on.
I know I would not want to be in that 1600.

@jrmitchell1983
 
I would like to thank you for taking the time lastnight to run some tests...
The results are disgusting.
One user completly at random inserted 480's (at stock) into his system and checked his 24pin temps...
-Dramatic heating was observed-
 
And EVGA's responce?
"there are no known confirmed issues of this happening to any of there products under normal conditions."
Well jrmitchell1983 just proved that EVGA just wants to sell products and has no intention of being honest about this issue.
 
Thanks again for taking the time to run your own quick test of this heating problem.
I think we can all agree, EVGA is lying about everything releated to this issue, in the interest of continuing to sell motherboards and videocards that run out of ATX and PCIE spec at completly stock settings.
 
Which of course, is why things are burning up... a design flaw defect.  
  
  
  
 

Sorry bro, welcome to the club.
 
Sadly, there are alot of people...
Who are one 400 series upgrade, gaming session or vantage run away from a burn up, and dont even know it.
 
Oh EVGA will RMA the board after the burn up...
But for your CPU, PSU, RAM and everything else that might blow, your own your own
 
And lets not forget... if your not around when it happens, it could burn your house down. 
 
This isnt a batch of motherboards with a defective chipset fan...
It's a serious design defect that causes a meltdown on (in some cases) as much as a 100amp 12v rail. 
Thats about as extreme a failure as you can have.
 
-->And EVGA knows all about it.  
 

@maniacvvv you welcome (hope my results help someone)
 
I will be doing the mod to my E758 (I don't want to worry anymore about this) & Screw the warranty
The only problem i run into is, will a single molex be enough to help power all three PCI-E slots on my board? or will i need to go with a 6-pin connector (like the MSI BIG BANG does?) Also is the 3.3v lead necessary or not? (if using the 6-pin it could not be)
 
Maybe some of you hardcore modders can chime in here and help me out. I will be test dummy on this one. I don't want to have to think twice about how i run my rig. so 4-pin molex (enough)  /  6-pin (will it work or cause damage) I would much rather go for the 6-pin to have the extra power if possible.