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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 08:28:06 (permalink)
Sadly I had just bought a 1030 about 3 days ago for the step up program with no prier warning to this update. Wish there would have been some warning on it or at least an honoring system for those who bought before this announcement. Very misleading as well as disappointing  
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 08:49:47 (permalink)
Come on EVGA Team how are you going to screw your customers this way? You want to change policy cool, but why do it like this? You should have done it on on purchase date, not the Step Up signup date. It makes no sense to do this with your customers who when out of their way to get one of your products and now it feels like you are punishing them for trying to get a hold of your products for a fair price. No cool guys. 
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 09:19:12 (permalink)
Can't believe EVGA made a decision to change the rules this way. You guys really got to find a better way to change the policy without screwing over people who already made purchases.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 09:19:15 (permalink)
They did the same thing with changes to the extended warranty program.  Changes to policy should be made based on purchase date.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 09:45:03 (permalink)
Why did you guys then take me out of the queue and cancel my stepup?
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:17:17 (permalink)
This doesn't make sense really.  EVGA sells Hardware.  That's what they do.
 
They are selling cards and then reimbursing the cost of the "Seed" card towards the Step up Card
 
so 1030 >> 3080Ti
or 3060 >>  3080Ti
both paths are selling a 3080Ti at a $$$$ price in the end, both paths reimburse the price of the SEED card
 
The customer does not get reimbursed Taxes or shipping.  So the end difference of these two paths is that the customer pays more sales Tax for the 3060 that is un-reimbursable.
 
In both scenarios EVGA sells a 3080Ti at a handsome price
WHY would they break it off in us like this?   Makes no sense.
 
EVGA, WHAT'S YOUR BOGGLE?  Why would you nail us like this for no good reason?  I'm just trying to buy a 3080 Ti, does that make me a bad guy?  What did I do to deserve this treatment?
 
n.b.  this post composed on a EVGA Titan X being powered by a EVGA 1000 P2 PSU...
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:17:53 (permalink)
Since there has been a rule change, how does one go about checking the status up their step-up items that were already in que?  I can't see the status anymore since the change was made under my products.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:27:33 (permalink)
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Since there has been a rule change, how does one go about checking the status up their step-up items that were already in que?  I can't see the status anymore since the change was made under my products.


EVGA has stated that they are working on this, as it was a bug that is causing the status not to show properly for those already in the queue. Once the bug is corrected, you should be able to see your status.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:29:04 (permalink)
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Since there has been a rule change, how does one go about checking the status up their step-up items that were already in que?  I can't see the status anymore since the change was made under my products.


EVGA has stated that they are working on this, as it was a bug that is causing the status not to show properly for those already in the queue. Once the bug is corrected, you should be able to see your status.

Thank you for the quick response!
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:32:06 (permalink)
Think of all the gamers out there who thought they have finally gotten their chance to get a card they had been searching for without having to pay the ridiculous 2nd hand prices. It seems like more cards to sites where the bots can snag them and sell for 2x msrp. At least they will enjoy the extra stock.

At least give all the people who have already purchased a chance to step up to one of your used bstock cards or something so they have something that can get them through this chip shortage. I understand rule changes but at least give those who bought under the old ruleset a chance to not be stuck with an inferior card they were just hoping to use in your program.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:32:42 (permalink)
I don't think EVGA could have chosen a worse way to handle this, customer service wise, and this reeks of bad faith.  They could have:
  • Grandfathered in all cards purchased prior to the change, given that the transition period would only be 90 days, or
  • Grandfathered all cards registered prior to the change and offer refunds for all non-registered cards purchased within some time period prior to the change, including return shipping.
Although I've been impressed with EVGA's customer service in the past, this change demonstrates a lack of concern for their customers, particularly in light of their initial change to the notification queues.  If EVGA wanted to make the change before the 3090 ti / 3050 release, they well could have done it 90 days ago as they knew darned well what products they were developing well before then.  
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:48:19 (permalink)
I understand why the changes were made.  I wouldn't want to get any GT1030s shipped back either.
But it does seem like products purchased before the change should be grandfathered in.

One change EVGA could make immediately that would help with such issues in the future AND help reduce scalping:
Automatically register any product bought on EVGA.com to the account holder. 
The S/N could be assigned at the time of packaging - allowing people to get into the step-up right away, and allowing purchase of extended warranty immediately.  
Then, any card re-sold to another person would automatically have the second owner warranty - reducing the value of the card to the person purchasing from a scalper.

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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:52:36 (permalink)
So I just got off the phone with a guy who said his name was Wai in customer service.
 
He said we are the bad guys for what is happening now.  Truly amazing "screw you" type of call.  He said the program was for someone to buy a card and then upgrade to another card.  I tried to tell him that was what I was doing, and it was under EVGA's terms of agreement at the time.  He made it sound like we were bad guys for doing this.  Un freakin believable!  I'm the bad guy for trying to spend $1500 for a 3080Ti through their own step program.
 
I asked to be escalated to a supervisor.  He said none of them were at work today!   This is like buying a Mail Order Camera from a 42nd St Camera shop in New York City for anyone who has done that before.  Same screw you mentality.
 
He said we know there are going to be unhappy customers.
 
Ohhh and I get to pay shipping both ways on the 1030 card.  Nice!
 
post edited by les_garten - 2022/01/07 10:55:04
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 10:55:47 (permalink)
The fact that Evga would do this without notice is shady to say the least. I wouldn’t have ordered a card for step up (that is arriving today) had there been notice that this rule is changing. I have been a long time customer of Evga and sadly that ends today if they wont honor purchases made before the new rule was implemented. I will go out of my way to dissuade anybody I can from purchasing their products if this is the case.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:01:17 (permalink)
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So I just got off the phone with a guy who said his name was Wai in customer service.
 
He said we are the bad guys for what is happening now.  Truly amazing "screw you" type of call.  He said the program was for someone to buy a card and then upgrade to another card.  I tried to tell him that was what I was doing, and it was under EVGA's terms of agreement at the time.  He made it sound like we were bad guys for doing this.  Un freakin believable!  I'm the bad guy for trying to spend $1500 for a 3080Ti through their own step program.
 
I asked to be escalated to a supervisor.  He said none of them were at work today!   This is like buying a Mail Order Camera from a 42nd St Camera shop in New York City for anyone who has done that before.  Same screw you mentality.
 
He said we know there are going to be unhappy customers.
 
Ohhh and I get to pay shipping both ways on the 1030 card.  Nice!
 




 
I have to call bs. I called in and was politely told it's a programming issue, that my stupup is in queue and it will resolve itself.
As for the shipping charges, your griping because you have to pay to send the card back? There is a simple solution; don't stepup.
 
Point out ONE other card manufacturer that even allows for a stepup and gives you 100% of the retail price you paid?? 
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:06:31 (permalink)
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So I just got off the phone with a guy who said his name was Wai in customer service.
 
He said we are the bad guys for what is happening now.  Truly amazing "screw you" type of call.  He said the program was for someone to buy a card and then upgrade to another card.  I tried to tell him that was what I was doing, and it was under EVGA's terms of agreement at the time.  He made it sound like we were bad guys for doing this.  Un freakin believable!  I'm the bad guy for trying to spend $1500 for a 3080Ti through their own step program.
 
I asked to be escalated to a supervisor.  He said none of them were at work today!   This is like buying a Mail Order Camera from a 42nd St Camera shop in New York City for anyone who has done that before.  Same screw you mentality.
 
He said we know there are going to be unhappy customers.
 
Ohhh and I get to pay shipping both ways on the 1030 card.  Nice!
 




 
I have to call bs. I called in and was politely told it's a programming issue, that my stupup is in queue and it will resolve itself.
As for the shipping charges, your griping because you have to pay to send the card back? There is a simple solution; don't stepup.
 
Point out ONE other card manufacturer that even allows for a stepup and gives you 100% of the retail price you paid?? 


I don't believe he is referring to those that have already started step-up, but those that ordered a card in the past week, before the rule change, that now can't step-up their card when they receive it.  Some of us purchased a card, planning to do step-up and then while waiting for it to arrive Evga decided to change the rules.  Now we have to pay to return the card, and a restocking fee in some cases, and we don't get a gpu.  I understand Evga wanting to change the rules, but to do so after their customers already purchased a card to step-up, is BS.  Those cards purchased before the Jan 6th change should be allowed to step-up.  So far, we are being told that we are just out of luck.  That is why people are so upset.
post edited by bcarg007 - 2022/01/07 11:08:01
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:09:16 (permalink)
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So I just got off the phone with a guy who said his name was Wai in customer service.
 
He said we are the bad guys for what is happening now.  Truly amazing "screw you" type of call.  He said the program was for someone to buy a card and then upgrade to another card.  I tried to tell him that was what I was doing, and it was under EVGA's terms of agreement at the time.  He made it sound like we were bad guys for doing this.  Un freakin believable!  I'm the bad guy for trying to spend $1500 for a 3080Ti through their own step program.
 
I asked to be escalated to a supervisor.  He said none of them were at work today!   This is like buying a Mail Order Camera from a 42nd St Camera shop in New York City for anyone who has done that before.  Same screw you mentality.
 
He said we know there are going to be unhappy customers.
 
Ohhh and I get to pay shipping both ways on the 1030 card.  Nice!
 




 
I have to call bs. I called in and was politely told it's a programming issue, that my stupup is in queue and it will resolve itself.
As for the shipping charges, your griping because you have to pay to send the card back? There is a simple solution; don't stepup.
 
Point out ONE other card manufacturer that even allows for a stepup and gives you 100% of the retail price you paid?? 




You can call BS all you want, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  You'll just have to live with that.  I have to pay shipping both ways.  I bought the card and the terms changed 2 days later, they know this is happening.  Dude, that's why they changed it like they did.  They saw we were buying 1030's to get in the queue.  I did it, I would have bought a 3060 to get into the queue.  The guy told me this.  HE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG FOR DOING THIS
 
POINTING OUT.  Here's what I'll point out, I was doing everything under THEIR terms and conditions.  You are calling me a bad guy for trying to pay $1500 for their card following their instructions.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:12:16 (permalink)
People have been buying 210s, 710s, and 1030s for the step-up program most likely since there has been the step-up program.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:12:19 (permalink)
I bought a card last year to step up, it just came today. Turns out I can’t step it up…
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:15:08 (permalink)
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I bought a card last year to step up, it just came today. Turns out I can’t step it up…

They are going to tell you to step off, not step up...
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:23:15 (permalink)
There are a dozen ways that Evga could handle this without screwing their customers.  The easiest would be for them to allow those that purchased a card that qualified for step-up at the time they purchased it to complete their step-up.  It really is that simple.  If they are worried about it being dragged out, then they could put a two-week limit from the 6th.  In that time people should have received their card and started their step-up or cancelled their card if it wouldn't make it in time.  At least then they wouldn't be stuck with return shipping and restocking fees.  Talk about adding insult to injury.  Why throw away years of reputation to, well, I don't even know what this accomplishes for them.  However, I do know that this shortage won't last forever, and people will remember this when there are more alternatives for place to buy.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:36:55 (permalink)
I just received an email saying I should look into returning my GT 1030.  Unfortunately, I am out of the return window, so I'm screwed.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:38:31 (permalink)
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I just received an email saying I should look into returning my GT 1030.  Unfortunately, I am out of the return window, so I'm screwed.


What is the return window?
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:40:41 (permalink)
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I just received an email saying I should look into returning my GT 1030.  Unfortunately, I am out of the return window, so I'm screwed.


What is the return window?


30 day return policy is up from my retailer.  I was waiting for new cards like the rumored 3070 Ti and 3080 with more VRAM before starting my step up.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:42:31 (permalink)
My opinion - using the 1030s to step up is kind of shady if you’re going to scalp the card. Would guess that a lot of that was happening.
They have always posted the right to change the rules for their programs - programs that no other manufacturers want to do at any price.
Regardless, bad situation for purchaser before the change was announced that EVGA should address. If someone bought one card to step up, they should definitely get the chance. If they’re buying 10 of them, well …

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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:44:25 (permalink)
Both of these complaints could, once again, could be easily resolved by Evga offering a two-week grace period to begin a step-up, if your card was purchased before they decided to pull the rug.  Really not that difficult, Evga.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:51:21 (permalink)
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My opinion - using the 1030s to step up is kind of shady if you’re going to scalp the card. Would guess that a lot of that was happening.
They have always posted the right to change the rules for their programs - programs that no other manufacturers want to do at any price.
Regardless, bad situation for purchaser before the change was announced that EVGA should address. If someone bought one card to step up, they should definitely get the chance. If they’re buying 10 of them, well …



I just built a Z690/12900 system with DDR5 and a New 32" 4K 144hz monitor with HDMI 2.1.  Would REALLY like to upgrade my EVGA Titan X Maxwell chipped card.  I've never scalped anything in my life.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:51:46 (permalink)
I got a 1030 on 1/03/22 am i still good to get a 3060 ti?
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:54:11 (permalink)
Sounds like only if you have already put your card into the step up queue. If not then it sounds like they are saying you are not good.
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Re: EVGA Step-Up Program Updates (1/6/2022) 2022/01/07 11:55:46 (permalink)
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Both of these complaints could, once again, could be easily resolved by Evga offering a two-week grace period to begin a step-up, if your card was purchased before they decided to pull the rug.  Really not that difficult, Evga.


There can't be many.  That's the part that doesn't make sense.
And what Dastardly deed was I trying to do?  BUY a 3080Ti!  
I was willing to pay Jacked up money to buy a 3080Ti because it's impossible to get a 3080. Don't get me started on that...
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