Mineking35
I got a 1030 on 1/03/22 am i still good to get a 3060 ti?

les_garten
You can call BS all you want, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  You'll just have to live with that.  I have to pay shipping both ways.  I bought the card and the terms changed 2 days later, they know this is happening.  Dude, that's why they changed it like they did.  They saw we were buying 1030's to get in the queue.  I did it, I would have bought a 3060 to get into the queue.  The guy told me this.  HE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG FOR DOING THIS
 POINTING OUT.  Here's what I'll point out, I was doing everything under THEIR terms and conditions.  You are calling me a bad guy for trying to pay $1500 for their card following their instructions.

Glenn18073

les_garten
You can call BS all you want, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  You'll just have to live with that.  I have to pay shipping both ways.  I bought the card and the terms changed 2 days later, they know this is happening.  Dude, that's why they changed it like they did.  They saw we were buying 1030's to get in the queue.  I did it, I would have bought a 3060 to get into the queue.  The guy told me this.  HE TOLD ME I WAS WRONG FOR DOING THIS
 POINTING OUT.  Here's what I'll point out, I was doing everything under THEIR terms and conditions.  You are calling me a bad guy for trying to pay $1500 for their card following their instructions.

 
It isn't unheard of to get an agent having a bad day but to imagine a CSR to be as blatantly rude as you suggest requires suspended disbelief. This isn't an episode of 24 so my suspended disbelief is turned off.
 
The stepup program is a courtesy. A goodwill gesture. Like a point/rewards program. Those change all the time and without notice. My Disney point are worthless now but I never bought a Disney movie for the points. 
To do so would be foolish and the onus of that error would be on me, not Disney. 

bcarg007
No, this would be more like buying Disney points, because it is the only way Disney will allow you to buy a movie.  Then on their website, it says buying points is approved by Disney as a way to get a Disney movie.  Then after you buy the points, which are useless otherwise, Disney decides to cancel that method of getting a Disney movie and then you are stuck with a bunch of useless points that you paid money for.

bcarg007
So, you have no issue with the fact that Evga allowed their customers to buy crappy, outdated cards, specifically with the intent to use the step-up program to get a better card and then left them all holding the bag by cancelling it with zero notice?  Evga can claim what the "intent" of the program was, but that is certainly not how it has been used, for literally years.  If that is really how you feel, then you and Glen make two.  Everyone that is not beholden to Evga feels differently, as displayed here, on Discord, on Reddit, etc.  Even Evga knows it is shady.

Glenn18073
 

bcarg007
So, you have no issue with the fact that Evga allowed their customers to buy crappy, outdated cards, specifically with the intent to use the step-up program to get a better card and then left them all holding the bag by cancelling it with zero notice?  Evga can claim what the "intent" of the program was, but that is certainly not how it has been used, for literally years.  If that is really how you feel, then you and Glen make two.  Everyone that is not beholden to Evga feels differently, as displayed here, on Discord, on Reddit, etc.  Even Evga knows it is shady.

People that had their shady back-door slammed shut in their face are the ones not happy.
I have been waiting in the front door queue since...March? wow, it's been a while. 
I bought another card to use hoping it will work well enough but it lags and takes forever to do certain things.
If my step-up is cancelled, I'm not going to be happy but I didn't buy the card expressly to step-up. I bought it
to replace an older card and act as a stepping stone until my queue spot comes up. It will continue to do that
until such time as that happens. 
 
People need to stop throwing tantrums because Daddy discovered you were sneaking out of the house and 
he installed an alarm to catch you. 
 

megatyler30
Hi, I bought the 1030 on 12/31 for the purposes of stepping up to the 3060 and, according to the policy when I decided to make the purchase, this was a valid option. Now after getting the product delivered today, I see that the policy suddenly changed between when I ordered your product and when it was delivered. Given there was no advance notice of 14 days which would be reasonable so no customers would end up screwed, I would heavily appreciate if you could honor your policy if the card was purchased (with invoice proof) before the update to the policy.

CalebC

megatyler30
Hi, I bought the 1030 on 12/31 for the purposes of stepping up to the 3060 and, according to the policy when I decided to make the purchase, this was a valid option. Now after getting the product delivered today, I see that the policy suddenly changed between when I ordered your product and when it was delivered. Given there was no advance notice of 14 days which would be reasonable so no customers would end up screwed, I would heavily appreciate if you could honor your policy if the card was purchased (with invoice proof) before the update to the policy.

EVGA has already stated multiple times they have no intent of honoring step up for people in your situation. The benefits that were advertised at the time you purchased the product have been retroactively terminated.

Glenn18073

les_garten
 
 
1) How shady we are to be trying to buy a 3080Ti card
there's no net difference for EVGA,  you tell me why EVGA should care either way?
 
1030 >>  3080Ti
3060 >>  3080Ti
 
At the end of the day the money is about the same.  Taxes being the difference.  Both Paths reimburse the seed card cost.  How is this Shady?  EVGA sold me the 1030 card, who's being Shady again?

 
Have you factored in the internal costs EVGA contends with when they receive your used card? or are you completely discounting that? Yes, that card can be resold but not for the retail price it was sold to you for
and it will have even more overhead, ie; the manpower dealing with it once you returned it.
The shady part is when people buy the cheapest card with the express purpose of using the step-up program to swap it for a 30xx card that would ordinarily be harder to get, possibly not be available for retail
and take longer. That is the quintessential definition of shady. 
 
shady

[ˈSHādē] 
ADJECTIVE
situated in or full of shade.
informal

of doubtful honesty or legality.
synonyms:
suspicious · suspect · questionable · dubious · doubtful · of dubious character · disreputable · untrustworthy · dishonest · dishonorable · devious 

Glenn18073

les_garten
 
 
1) How shady we are to be trying to buy a 3080Ti card
there's no net difference for EVGA,  you tell me why EVGA should care either way?
 
1030 >>  3080Ti
3060 >>  3080Ti
 
At the end of the day the money is about the same.  Taxes being the difference.  Both Paths reimburse the seed card cost.  How is this Shady?  EVGA sold me the 1030 card, who's being Shady again?

 
Have you factored in the internal costs EVGA contends with when they receive your used card? or are you completely discounting that? Yes, that card can be resold but not for the retail price it was sold to you for
and it will have even more overhead, ie; the manpower dealing with it once you returned it.
The shady part is when people buy the cheapest card with the express purpose of using the step-up program to swap it for a 30xx card that would ordinarily be harder to get, possibly not be available for retail
and take longer. That is the quintessential definition of shady. 
 
shady

[ˈSHādē] 
ADJECTIVE
situated in or full of shade.informal

of doubtful honesty or legality.
synonyms:
suspicious · suspect · questionable · dubious · doubtful · of dubious character · disreputable · untrustworthy · dishonest · dishonorable · devious 

GrandWhiteTiger

Glenn18073

les_garten
 
 
1) How shady we are to be trying to buy a 3080Ti card
there's no net difference for EVGA,  you tell me why EVGA should care either way?
 
1030 >>  3080Ti
3060 >>  3080Ti
 
At the end of the day the money is about the same.  Taxes being the difference.  Both Paths reimburse the seed card cost.  How is this Shady?  EVGA sold me the 1030 card, who's being Shady again?

 
Have you factored in the internal costs EVGA contends with when they receive your used card? or are you completely discounting that? Yes, that card can be resold but not for the retail price it was sold to you for
and it will have even more overhead, ie; the manpower dealing with it once you returned it.
The shady part is when people buy the cheapest card with the express purpose of using the step-up program to swap it for a 30xx card that would ordinarily be harder to get, possibly not be available for retail
and take longer. That is the quintessential definition of shady. 
 
shady

[ˈSHādē] 
ADJECTIVE
situated in or full of shade.informal

of doubtful honesty or legality.
synonyms:
suspicious · suspect · questionable · dubious · doubtful · of dubious character · disreputable · untrustworthy · dishonest · dishonorable · devious 

When did using a program as stated become shady? I didn't break any rules, a GT 1030 is a 3 year warranty card that ends in -kr that qualifies for step up. It was quite clear on what was acceptable and what was not. I'm not twisting their words, or taking advantage of them. They offer the program, I use it. Jacob Freeman, the product director at EVGA has stated that any 3 year warranty card that ends with a -kr qualified for step up multiple times on twitter.

Regardless, every person is limited to one step up per stepped up model, so no one is able to buy 10 GT 1030's, step them all up and flip it.

I followed the rules as stated.

I have absolutely no problem with the new rules, none, only the retroactive fact that my 1030 I purchased and registered in December no longer qualifies. Going forward? That's perfectly acceptable.

LFaWolf
I don't remember and don't know much about Step Up, but don't you mean, or if its original intent, was to allow Step Up for products purchased 90 days before the launch of new products?