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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/04 01:08:37 (permalink)
Ok Thank You no-fate !
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/08 20:06:34 (permalink)
no_fate,
 
Does your microcode CPU update support ES CPUs?
 
If not, what can we do to make it so?
 
Thanks.
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/09 12:26:30 (permalink)
hi
 
SRX bios start with 16 support only C0 C1 C2 cpus ES
 
the serie B0 B1 B2 not supported ex QA92 QA91 is B0 cpu
 
with asus support Bx cpu  warnnig  last  bios CPU ES Bx not supported 
the last bios is 3105 running for my Z9 PE16 server Motherboard with B0 cpu ES QA92 the bios after not for ES B1

Z690 classified start build
 
X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
X299 APEX
X299 rampage Extreme
 
E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

and other  DFI giga etc  

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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/09 15:26:37 (permalink)
cateno,
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
So I am safe to buy ES CPUs with Cx stepping? :)
 
EDIT: Oh and what about E5-46xx series CPUs?
 
EDIT2: What about Xeon E5 v2? :D
post edited by 3dluvr - 2013/09/10 16:59:24
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/10 18:59:15 (permalink)
Safe?  Engineering Sample (ES) processors are never officially supported on any [EVGA] board simply because they are stolen.  Intel 'lends' them to developers to test their software and hardware compatibility, they weren't bought and are supposed to be returned.  So for someone to sell you an ES, both of you are doing something illegal.  While Intel lends thousands of ES' out annually and can't prosecute everyone, at least mainboard manufacturers do their part by not supporting them.
 
Besides, if EVGA hasn't already tested them, they won't put it on their support list; should something go wrong with the board and you're using a CPU not on their list (ES included), you can't prove it was the board's fault so EVGA will not accept responsibility, i.e. void warranty.
 
If you want safe and guaranteed, choose a processor on their list in the support section up top.
 
E5-4600 series are for quad-socket boards; similar socket was for Intel's convenience, not ours.
 
I'd like to think Ivy-EP support will come soon, Newegg already has the $2700 12-core available; but EVGA will put more efforts on their X79 Dark board for now and then address BIOS updates for SR-X when demand warrants it.  

For Intel processors, 0.122 x TDP = Continuous Amps at 12v [source].  

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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/10 19:40:14 (permalink)
lehpron,
 
Thank you for your thoughts and consideration.
 
I really do not wish to enter into a debate over legality of things, as you are entitled to your own opinion, of course.
 
My question was purely technical and you did not really answer it. Are you perhaps being paid by EVGA to spread the word of the "Good Samaritan" instead?
 
Also, I would not hold my breath that EVGA will support anything on SR-X as the board has been discontinued and basically abandoned by EVGA.
 
Anyone else with some more constructive information, please?
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/11 10:20:36 (permalink)
hello CX is ok on SRX
better is C1 version
 
 

Z690 classified start build
 
X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
X299 APEX
X299 rampage Extreme
 
E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

and other  DFI giga etc  

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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/11 17:53:04 (permalink)
cateno,
 
Thanks for replying. I was going to look for the best C stepping I can find, so I'll try getting at least C1 then.
 
Hopefully something affordable and worth while shows up. :)
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/15 08:57:42 (permalink)
hi all!
 
http://rghost.ru/48768096
 
1) CPU microcode updated to v. 710
2) OROM SATA Marvell DID 9182/918a updated to v. 1.0.0.0026

MB: EVGA Classified SR-X  
CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2690v2 
GPU: 2 x GTX TITAN Z 
RAM: Samsung DDR3 196GB (12x16GB) 1866MHz  
HDD: 4 x Intel 3500 series 800GB ssd (Raid 0)  
PSU: Corsair AX1500i
CPU / GPU Coolers: EK Supermacy EVO / EK TITAN Z waterblock's
Case: Caselabs Magnum TH10A
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/15 09:17:30 (permalink)
Thanks for your continuous work, no_fate.
 
Could you paste here, or post a link where we can find more info about the v.710 microcode update please?
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/15 10:13:10 (permalink)
It is the last version for CPUID 000206D7h that it was succeeded to find. The list of changes isn't known :(

MB: EVGA Classified SR-X  
CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2690v2 
GPU: 2 x GTX TITAN Z 
RAM: Samsung DDR3 196GB (12x16GB) 1866MHz  
HDD: 4 x Intel 3500 series 800GB ssd (Raid 0)  
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/15 10:46:18 (permalink)
Do you know if the Xeon E5 v2 CPUs are supported, as well as the ES C0/C1/C2 steppings for v1/v2?
 
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/16 06:46:14 (permalink)
I would like to know this aswell.  Don't want to have to use an unofficial BIOS (my thanks to no_fate too btw) but EVGA has yet to even give word on their x79 boards getting an update for Ivy-E (besides the Dark).  Also, Asus's Z9PE-D8 had a new BIOS available immediately following the V2 Xeon's launch.  Can we be given any idea of time? 
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/16 07:49:23 (permalink)
hi
 
haswell xeons is  in lga2011-3 and use X99 ddr4 for end  2014

Z690 classified start build
 
X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
X299 APEX
X299 rampage Extreme
 
E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
E760 X980 
E761 I920
E770 I950
and SR2's  and SRX's
Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

and other  DFI giga etc  

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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/16 07:54:17 (permalink)
Yes, I was  talking about the Ivybridge Xeons, not the Haswell.
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Re: EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/29 04:37:02 (permalink)
Hello, earlier this month Intel released Xeon "Ivy Bridge-EP" microprocessors for socket 2011 platform, do you know if EVGA have already released a BIOS update to be able to use this new Intel processors with the EVGA SR-X ?, thank you 

  
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/29 04:49:13 (permalink)
With this I can answer my own question 
 
3dluvr

Also, I would not hold my breath that EVGA will support anything on SR-X as the board has been discontinued and basically abandoned by EVGA.




post edited by tonschk - 2013/09/29 04:51:36

  
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/29 06:31:22 (permalink)
I suppose one could theoretically take the microcode update from Asus Z9PE-D8 and transplant it to the SR-X BIOS, if it contains new CPUs.
 
Although I thought no_fate already put the latest microcode into his modified 020 BIOS, or was that just the one he could find?
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/09/29 10:23:06 (permalink)
According to what little info I have, the microcode in no_fate's BIOS (version 710) is the last for the Sandybridge-E CPUs and won't enable support for the IvyBridge-E/Xeon V2s.  I don't know what microcode is required for the Ivybridge Xeons but if its the same as with their desktop counterparts (4820k 4930k and 4960x), then it would appear to be 416 we need.
 
Intel (06D7) SandyBridgeE Microcode 70B to 710
Intel (06E4) IvyE CPU Microcode 416 added
 
The above was edited from a post on another forum.
 
I have contacted EVGA directly and asked if/when a new BIOS for the SRX is coming to address this issue, they didn't give me a date but did say they are working on one.  Whilst I appreciate that its difficult to make any firm promises regarding ETAs when testing can cause unexpected delays, I think the time has come where a little "official" reassurance or clarification on the forum would be better than silence.
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/04 13:42:31 (permalink)
It is not just the microcode that needs to be added - microcode is the small part of the work.
 
The biggest change is so-called memory reference code, or MRC.   This is the code that actually configures the uncore and trains the memory - and there is a huge difference between SNB-EP MRC and IVB-EP MRC.
 
So, in short, without EVGA releasing IvyTown compatible BIOS, there is little chance that somebody can hack the support in, as there are big changes that Intel did which require corresponding changes in the BIOS.
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/04 14:03:20 (permalink)
I think you are giving EVGA way too much credit...
 
Most of the firmware code is the same or very very similar across all OEMs. Matter a fact it would not surprise me if they just used Intel's generic code straight OOB without any changes. Intel has surely optimized their chipset code before releasing it to OEMs so it works with whichever chipset it's meant to. If you don't think I'm correct, extract couple of EFI modules form EVGA, ASUS and Gigabyte firmware and compare them. Yes, defaults might be different because OEMs will customize that part, but "meat and potatoes" is the very much alike, or the same.
 
Having said that, we should be able to just take whatever IB code from another OEM's firmware and put it into EVGA one.
 
The only reason all this sounds like "rocket science" is because BIOS internals had been deliberately obscured by Intel and OEMs for many years, under the guise of "proprietary." I'll call BS on that any time of the day or night...the tables are turned and people have gotten smarter over the years so we know a lot more now than before.
 
I'll use no_fate as example, because I used his firmware and flashed my motherboard with it. Lo and behold the motherboard still works so he must be doing something right. We just need more people to engage in this and we won't need anyone to do anything for us after they've abandoned their product.
 
Sadly, we still need them to produce hardware itself, but then again a day might come when we'll be able to print our own hardware. That day would be the fall of the hardware OEMs and their monopoly over the hardware World...
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/04 17:01:33 (permalink)
no_fate..
 
Many thanks on your modifications with the 020 BIOS. 
 
Would love to give it a try, however the link you provided from files.mail.ru seems to be expired. Any chance I could still grab that from you? 
 
Nevermind, found the latest link.
 
I have one concern:
 
When I first built this machine, I brought my raid array over from an older Asus dual xeon setup which also used the onboard Intel Matrix tech. Since both used the same, I figured I should be able to just plug in my array and it would recognize it right away. It didn't unfortunately, due to a version mismatch, and intel changed something that caused it to see the arrays a bit smaller. 
 
In the older version on my asus board, it read my 3x2tb array at 5.6 TB, but with the newer version on the SR-X board, it read the array at 5.2TB, which also caused it to not recognize the array built on the older version. I did all the right steps with the BIOS initially before it tried to boot so that it wouldn't erase it's existence, which happened to me before during a bios update mid-project, was NOT fun... tstdisk saved my ass, and since then have always remembered to set up the SATA  to RAID during the first run. 
 
As it wasn't user error, I looked to intel changing the Matrix architecture over the course of updating the software. 
 
My hope is that, when updating to your modded BIOS with updated RST versions, will it still recognize my current RAID array, or will I be dealing with this nightmare all over again?
 
Has anyone experienced any issues I should be aware of? 
 
Looking forward to finally utilizing the SAS ports!!
 
 
Thanks again for your hard work.
 
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/04 17:53:55 (permalink)
Despite finding the two former posts very interesting to read, I still don't know enough about the mechanics of BIOS tweakery at such low levels to know what or who might be correct.  
 
What I do know is that Asus have, for over a month, had an official BIOS available for a very similar board (the Z9PE-D8 WS) that enables the support we need for the SRX.  Over a week ago, Asrock released multiple bioses for its dual CPU EP2C602 series, all of which now support the V2 Xeons. Every one of Supermicro's server class boards based on the c602 and c606 chipset now also offer full Xeon V2 support.
 
Regarding single CPU boards, I've seen a giant thread on another forum which provides modified third party bioses for Gigabyte's boards including those based on the X79 chipset, several of which apparently include support for the new IVY Bridge-E 4xxx CPUs.  Moreover, Gigabyte themselves came out with their official BIOS last week.  Asus, Asrock and MSI now have official IVB-E bioses available for all of their x79 boards.  
 
This leaves Intel themselves, who as many will know, shamelessly abandoned all its motherboard customers from the moment it wound down production earlier this year and EVGA, who has thus far seemingly dedicated a huge portion of its tech support and engineering team to optimizing its newest x79 board (the Dark) and communicating with those who have invested in it, whilst in so doing, leaving many other equally loyal customers without support or even a sliver of relevant information.
 
Again, I understand that sometimes delays are unavoidable for a multitude of technical reasons and have no doubt that everybody who represents and/or works for EVGA feels the company is doing the best job it can.   Nevertheless, at this stage, to request official confirmation that a BIOS is being developed that will enable the SRX to support new CPUs (ones specifically intended as upgrades), along with an approximate ETA, is surely not unreasonable.
post edited by Ishtra - 2013/10/04 17:56:17
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/05 04:39:25 (permalink)
@3dluvr,
 
No, you cannot take MRC from another board and expect it to work >unless< the boards are nearly identical. The reason is, different boards have different memory layouts and thus require OEM-specific modifications to the MRC code. 
 
You are, of course, welcome to try - ASUS Z9PE D8 WS has IVT MRC inside (UEFI package is called IvtQpiAndMrcInit, you can extract it with MMTool), and try to replace the EVGA SR-X QpiAndMrc package.  
 
But, like I said, this is almost guaranteed not to work due to differences between the boards and numerous changes that were done for the IvyTown CPU handling.
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/05 11:22:36 (permalink)
@psyq321,
 
I am planning to try many things the moment I complete the build of this system (based on the SR-X). Sadly it's taking longer than I expected due to other circumstances, but such is life. BAH!
 
I still firmly believe that things are not as different as they might appear. I did note that settings would differ from OEM to OEM so what you mention is totally correct in the light of various customizations. Never the less, both OEMs still use the same CPU and the same memory so things cannot differ that much.
 
 
@Ishtra,
 
I really doubt (I'd love to be proven wrong) that EVGA is working on a SR-X BIOS to support IB. Looking at how fast they dropped SR-X from the product line and how SR-2 has been dwindling for years, I think they might be focusing on a new dual CPU board, or more likely on other things as their past board did not do so well (not EVGA's fault though - Intel locked the Xeons from OC and all the features they built into SR-X went to waste).
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/05 13:28:41 (permalink)
If that's the case then what Jacob said in post #6 of this thread and what I'm now being told directly by tech support are, quite simply, lies.  I don't personally believe EVGA would treat its customers that way, despite the continued public silence.
 
They were relatively quick (much quicker than Asus in fact) to address the SRX's compatibility issues with the TITAN cards, I hope this wasn't simply because they are an official vendor for NVidia and didn't want to be seen to be supplying cards that didn't work in their own motherboards.
 
Please Admins, you must be reading these messages, you have customers itching to either acquire or continue using your products and I'm not just referring to those contributing on this forum.  
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/05 15:55:35 (permalink)
@Ishtra,
 
As I said I'd love to be proven wrong, but from all my past experience of what I've seen everywhere is that folks at Tech. Suppt. are not always clued into what management and marketing/sales plan to do. Part of their job (Tech. Suppt's) is customer relations, so they will try to help users as much as they can, but sometimes they are left in the dark just as much as users are...
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Re:EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/15 11:18:09 (permalink)
Hello,

have the following problems and hope to get help here .

I have 2 SSD 's in Raid0 connected via the SATA controller and 6x more 3TB drives on the SAS controller.

I have a " GTX Titan" and a sound card over the PCI -e slots to run on .

When I installed Windows 8 and now wants to change the drive letter via disk management , or only one HDD which is connected to the SAS controller wants to reformat , my system hangs .

If I install Windows 8.1 , the computer starts so the installation would be a few times again , but after the first reboot during the boot process comes the message:

"Windows has encountered a problem communicating with a device connected to your computer .

File: \ Boot \ BCD
Status: 0xC00000E9 "

When I depart from the HDD's to the SAS controller , the computer starts without an error message.

Can someone please help with this problem please ?


My system :

- EVGA SR -X motherboard ( BIOS Version 020)
- 2x E5 -2690 CPUs
- 96GB Corsair RAM @ 1600MHz
- EVGA GTX TITAN
- Creative Sound Core 3D sound card
- 2x Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD's in Raid0
- 6x 3TB HDD's WD30EZRX - 00D
- EVGA Supernova 1500
 
PS: please excuse my english ... I translate it with Google ... :-)

╔►Setup:
║¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
╠►System: Win 8.1 Professional 64bit inkl. Media-Center
╠►Mainboard: EVGA SR-X  / Bios 1.03
╠►CPU: 2x Intel Xeon E5-2690
╠►RAM: 96GB (12x 8GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum @ 2133MHz
╠►System HDD: 4x Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD / Raid0
╠►3x LSI 9265-8i / 50TB HDD
╠►Grafikkarte: 1x EVGA GTX TITAN Z SC
╠►Power Supplies: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX1500 ║Classified
╠►Power Supplies: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2
╠►Tower: Lian Li D8000B
╠►Monitor: 3x LG IPS277 27" LED
╠►Maus: Mad Catz M.M.O. 7
╠►Keyboard: Mad Catz S.T.R.I.K.E. 7
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Re: EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/15 12:08:10 (permalink)
Jacob, I'm very sorry..
But do you have any news about the Bios update Version 21 for SR-X compatibility with E5 Ivybridge Xeon V2s?
It is still missing the micro code update.
I have purchased the new v2...I hope you can Help us to still believe in EVGA
In the last years you have made us very happy...so I can only thank you...but I hope we can still believe In EVGA...specially when we have an 10Y extended warranty purchased
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Re: EVGA SR-X - BIOS 019 Released 2013/10/16 04:38:31 (permalink)
just got information from technical support "talked to our Product Manager - our engineers are working on the BIOS version, but it´s not finished till now - should be available within the next 2 weeks, approximately." this is a very good news thank you
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