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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 11:45:30
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One thing I have not found on the KPE or any EVGA Hydro Copper Water Block is what is the Lowest Temperature that they support. Max Temperature ???°C (???°F) and Lowest Temperature ??°C (??°F) And Max Pressure that can be used. Like this > Max Pressure @ 25°C (77°F) 2kgf/cm2 (28.5psi) or Max Pressure @ 25°C (77°F) 1kgf/cm2 (14.2psi) This is my Pump > Max Pressure @ 25°C (77°F) 1.5kgf/cm2 (21.3psi)
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 11:50:42
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That was 75F. I notice the card said overheating yet again then noticed why and pulled the plug on everything. the damn thing was leaking and it created an air gap in the block. Far as I can tell. Talking with EVGA now.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 11:59:08
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I am thinking that maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block cannot support or run sub freezing temperatures.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 12:06:52
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bcavnaugh I am thinking that maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block cannot support or run sub freezing temperatures.
Everywhere I looked seems to be -40C Also i'm using 1 d5 pump.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 12:30:36
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On the one hand it looks like a good amount of weight on that top connector. On the other I would hope the KPE HC would survive a little torque.... These blocks really need soft hands. Soft tiny gentle hands.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 12:36:05
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Zeddivile On the one hand it looks like a good amount of weight on that top connector. On the other I would hope the KPE HC would survive a little torque.... These blocks really need soft hands. Soft tiny gentle hands.
Lines are held up, so no added weight. Side note. I still have to put my card back together to make sure it still works... Board and PSU are still working.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 13:07:51
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AHowes My chip needs high vccio.. like 1.325+v. For 4x 8gb 32GB total 4266mhz.
Are you sure? Did you disable all but 1 core with minimal OC applied and test DDR OC step for step. If you did not there are to many variables. ... And some chips are bad, IMO its a bad chip if the IMC requires 1.3v+ I have seen this on some boards. This being anything over 4200mhz wanting unfriendly SA/IO. Another variable is the "cache Ratio"... IMO there are bad boards and bad chips. Put them together and you need 1.4v SA/io to run 4133.................... The solution in this case is to not give it a bunch of voltage. It is to run the fastest speed ram at the lowest voltage to the SA/ IO. Unless you like degrading CPU's in which case give 1.6v daily a try. Seriously I am not trying to be mean. I have just seen how some 9th gen K parts degrade after 90 days on Multiple z390 MB's auto SA/IO v @ 1.38-1.46v over a 90 day time period degrading CPU and can confirm the degradation is measurable. Same goes for Z270 btw... I cuaght an MSI Z270 M7 trying to fry a 7700K with an auto setting of 1.425v VCCSA. Some people think anything under 1.35v daily is safeish and I can get on board with that I guess. Intel begs to differ however... @johnksss
UGH that sucks. I shipped out my original DOA Block today, the replacement passed visual inspection and now it lives in its box on the shelf...
Have not turned off any cores so I've not gone that far with testing. My 8700k used 1.35v vccio I believe for over s year no issues using the same ram on a Asus z270 apex. I've tried plenty of times to use lower vccio with strange quick errors (blue screens) during benches.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 13:11:58
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So far testing the ko card with the new copper block and not liking the results. Seems while watching the temps on the board.. most are like 1c difference. Some temps higher.
I cant use more voltage in the end without errors in 3dmark.. so not happy.
Cant get 2205mhz to run anymore. I have to run real low voltage but then the scores are low.
Same deal.. use higher voltage and get higher scores.. but now not too much or she errors in 3dmark.
Fighting thinking about looking at the resale value of the card and block and jump back to a ftw3 if I can come out well ahead to where it makes sense.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 13:18:13
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AHowes So far testing the ko card with the new copper block and not liking the results. Seems while watching the temps on the board.. most are like 1c difference. Some temps higher.
I cant use more voltage in the end without errors in 3dmark.. so not happy.
Cant get 2205mhz to run anymore. I have to run real low voltage but then the scores are low.
Same deal.. use higher voltage and get higher scores.. but now not too much or she errors in 3dmark.
Fighting thinking about looking at the resale value of the card and block and jump back to a ftw3 if I can come out well ahead to where it makes sense.
Time for LN2 then. Mine is doing better after running Moo! for a few days. Temperatures are going down on mine.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 14:05:49
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AHowes So far testing the ko card with the new copper block and not liking the results. Seems while watching the temps on the board.. most are like 1c difference. Some temps higher.
I cant use more voltage in the end without errors in 3dmark.. so not happy.
Cant get 2205mhz to run anymore. I have to run real low voltage but then the scores are low.
Same deal.. use higher voltage and get higher scores.. but now not too much or she errors in 3dmark.
Fighting thinking about looking at the resale value of the card and block and jump back to a ftw3 if I can come out well ahead to where it makes sense.
What do you mean exactly? What are your max clocks for core and memory without adjusting voltage. And the card has it's own built in voltage which most seem to have forgotten about.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 14:11:29
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AHowes So far testing the ko card with the new copper block and not liking the results. Seems while watching the temps on the board.. most are like 1c difference. Some temps higher.
I cant use more voltage in the end without errors in 3dmark.. so not happy.
Cant get 2205mhz to run anymore. I have to run real low voltage but then the scores are low.
Same deal.. use higher voltage and get higher scores.. but now not too much or she errors in 3dmark.
Fighting thinking about looking at the resale value of the card and block and jump back to a ftw3 if I can come out well ahead to where it makes sense.
What do you mean exactly? What are your max clocks for core and memory without adjusting voltage. And the card has it's own built in voltage which most seem to have forgotten about.
You can change the voltage by using the Classified tool for the Kingpin. It will allow you to go above the voltage of the stock bios. Here is your link for more info for your kingpin. https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 15:20:01
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Who here is running their KPE with a vertical GPU mount? Any issues? I am mysteriously hitting power limit @ 100%-105% ~305W-330W as reported in GPU-Z/HWiNFO.... thinking it could be my vertical mount kit. Figured I'd ask here before going thru process of removing vertical mount and re-installing in horizontal to test... I engineered a nice ducting system from my central-air to my KPE for benching but am running into power limit issues...
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 15:30:54
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degenerate Who here is running their KPE with a vertical GPU mount? Any issues? I am mysteriously hitting power limit @ 100%-105% ~305W-330W as reported in GPU-Z/HWiNFO.... thinking it could be my vertical mount kit. Figured I'd ask here before going thru process of removing vertical mount and re-installing in horizontal to test... I engineered a nice ducting system from my central-air to my KPE for benching but am running into power limit issues...
Any Photos of this Engineered Ducting System?
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
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degenerate Who here is running their KPE with a vertical GPU mount? Any issues? I am mysteriously hitting power limit @ 100%-105% ~305W-330W as reported in GPU-Z/HWiNFO.... thinking it could be my vertical mount kit. Figured I'd ask here before going thru process of removing vertical mount and re-installing in horizontal to test... I engineered a nice ducting system from my central-air to my KPE for benching but am running into power limit issues...
Any Photos of this Engineered Ducting System?
I forgot the quotation marks, it should read "engineered™" . Not exactly photo worthy as it is just a 10' run of 6" insulated flexible ducting connected on either end with tin A/C vent shrouds. One end connects to central air vent, other to front intake of case which is the KPE CLC 240mm rad. I crank the central air for benching runs. Trying to get the top score for 4930k systems
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 18:24:06
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Read Tin's guide. If you are adding voltage to the GPU core on water cooling then you simply don't understand how these cards work and should read the guide until you do. Furthermore, all this "I can't hit 10,433,000 Mhz - **** is wrong with this thing" comments - again that's not how these chips work and as TIN states in the guide more than once it is not uncommon to get LOWER SCORES at HIGHER CLOCKS because of throttling and error correction. Look what I just did by LOWERING my max voltage to 1.075 and removing all power limiters (I'm using the XOC BIOS to do that) and boo hoo I wasn't able to hit 2200 Mhz and had to settle for the 55th highest score in the world for a single GPU (sarcasm): http://www.3dmark.com/spy/7483514 I may have complained about the waterblock and the memory temps but nevertheless these cards are sick. I'm starting to look at the 2080 Ti landscape and thinking all models from all vendors are ridiculously overpriced except for the EVGA Kingpin which for the additional cost was the only bargain out there. Writing this quickly - sorry if I sound like a jerk.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 19:29:20
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Just got my KP in last week, just checking in and joining the community here! Honestly didn't even know the forums here were active lol. Looking forward to pushing this card!
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/20 19:57:07
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bcavnaugh Another X299 Dark Good place to start to get to your Card and MB
Of course! Best stuff on the market IMO! Thanks, but I'm no stranger to the xdevs stuff haha. Seen the link to the OC Lab sub forum. Its actually how I came to start lurking around here. Been a member of EVGA for a while just never knew the forums existed lol. Planning on getting an ICON pot soon, and getting "frosty"
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE!
2019/06/21 06:31:12
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Anyone else noticed these cards are not binned? Seen people getting a maximum of 2130MHz, feel sorry for the people paying so much of a premium for that. EVGA's own overclocking guide video is an example of this.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/21 07:56:18
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degenerate Who here is running their KPE with a vertical GPU mount? Any issues? I am mysteriously hitting power limit @ 100%-105% ~305W-330W as reported in GPU-Z/HWiNFO.... thinking it could be my vertical mount kit. Figured I'd ask here before going thru process of removing vertical mount and re-installing in horizontal to test... I engineered a nice ducting system from my central-air to my KPE for benching but am running into power limit issues...
I ran mine vertically with the stock cooler and with the HC waterblock. No issues until I started to notice artifacts during my first long gaming session with the card. At the time, the card was being run at +1000 mem and +100 core. Temps in PX1 or GPU-Z were normal. At one point I did noticed that none of the ICX temps were being displayed in GPU-Z, but were still working in PX1. Over the next day I had to keep dropping the core clock to maintain stability to the point I had to run a negative offset on the core to avoid artifacts. Temps were still normal. Then it crashed hard. OLED screen on re-boot read something about the memory power being too low, or something to that effect. RMA'd the card, got the new one installed and no issues thus far. EVGA support has been terrific. I haven't bothered with the HC block again. The breathing effect on the illumination is kind of annoying and the performance wasn't the best. IIRC, I got better temps just by turning the radiator fan to 100% while using the OC BIOS. Eventually I want to move everything from my Barrowch Mobula into a Phanteks Evolv X and I may re-vist the HC block thing then.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/21 10:07:42
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tt0ne Read Tin's guide. If you are adding voltage to the GPU core on water cooling then you simply don't understand how these cards work and should read the guide until you do. Furthermore, all this "I can't hit 10,433,000 Mhz - **** is wrong with this thing" comments - again that's not how these chips work and as TIN states in the guide more than once it is not uncommon to get LOWER SCORES at HIGHER CLOCKS because of throttling and error correction. Look what I just did by LOWERING my max voltage to 1.075 and removing all power limiters (I'm using the XOC BIOS to do that) and boo hoo I wasn't able to hit 2200 Mhz and had to settle for the 55th highest score in the world for a single GPU (sarcasm): http://www.3dmark.com/spy/7483514 I may have complained about the waterblock and the memory temps but nevertheless these cards are sick. I'm starting to look at the 2080 Ti landscape and thinking all models from all vendors are ridiculously overpriced except for the EVGA Kingpin which for the additional cost was the only bargain out there. Writing this quickly - sorry if I sound like a jerk.
This^^^well, not all, but about lower clocks.. The fps graph after a run shows a lot. You can see the the throttling by how choppy the line is. Gave up on PX1. Using AB and CT changing voltage did not get me better scores. Using CT on Auto default LL 0 using AB + 119 gives me 17,8xx's Graphics at 2175 TimeSpy. This is the third run today using AB + 117 Mem + 1500 running 2160. I never ran 17,9xx's before. I've run 105.xx's , never 106.xx GT2, so not repeatable at this time. 17,8xx's Graphics TS are repeatable. My CPU is limping. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7493771 PX1 gives me lower scores on auto or set up with CT than AB. CT probably is needed in cold climates or sub zero temps. I don't know about PX1. I think PX1 is total garbage and should not be needed to control fans or to see what speeds etc that we are running. Use AfterBurner...less crashes and higher scores, for me at least. edit: voltage reading is 1.0500v in HWinfo
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE!
2019/06/21 12:27:36
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FROSTYBE3R Anyone else noticed these cards are not binned? Seen people getting a maximum of 2130MHz, feel sorry for the people paying so much of a premium for that.
EVGA's own overclocking guide video is an example of this.
Anecdotally, the KPE at 2130Mhz seems to give me better in-game performance than my FE at 2160Mhz. In benchmarks the KPE is much better as the power and voltage limits can be removed. If you're buying the KPE just to game, I think you're wasting money.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE!
2019/06/21 14:51:00
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If someone wants to send me one or two I won't complain I am a gamer and novice renderer in Nvidia Iray. so could use the extra power I'd even try my hand at doing a review for them
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/21 19:30:02
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t0ot0o Just got my KP in last week, just checking in and joining the community here! Honestly didn't even know the forums here were active lol. Looking forward to pushing this card!
awesome bro welcome !!!
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/22 21:11:20
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degenerate Who here is running their KPE with a vertical GPU mount? Any issues? I am mysteriously hitting power limit @ 100%-105% ~305W-330W as reported in GPU-Z/HWiNFO.... thinking it could be my vertical mount kit. Figured I'd ask here before going thru process of removing vertical mount and re-installing in horizontal to test... I engineered a nice ducting system from my central-air to my KPE for benching but am running into power limit issues...
I ran mine vertically with the stock cooler and with the HC waterblock. No issues until I started to notice artifacts during my first long gaming session with the card. At the time, the card was being run at +1000 mem and +100 core. Temps in PX1 or GPU-Z were normal. At one point I did noticed that none of the ICX temps were being displayed in GPU-Z, but were still working in PX1. Over the next day I had to keep dropping the core clock to maintain stability to the point I had to run a negative offset on the core to avoid artifacts. Temps were still normal. Then it crashed hard. OLED screen on re-boot read something about the memory power being too low, or something to that effect. RMA'd the card, got the new one installed and no issues thus far. EVGA support has been terrific. I haven't bothered with the HC block again. The breathing effect on the illumination is kind of annoying and the performance wasn't the best. IIRC, I got better temps just by turning the radiator fan to 100% while using the OC BIOS. Eventually I want to move everything from my Barrowch Mobula into a Phanteks Evolv X and I may re-vist the HC block thing then.
I've seen many posts saying that the HC block isn't worth it and that the performance bump isn't even that great. Disappointing. I guess mine may end up a shelf ornament.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/22 23:57:46
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Back on top of the stock cooler scores in PR! 2280mhz core clock. +205 on the core. Tried +210 but couldn’t get it to go. Bout as high as I can go I think without having to go sub zero cooling. I think I have a damn good chip but noticed recently that my OLED is stuck at 300mhz for gpu clock and 405mhz mem clock.....anyone else had this problem?? Running 3.19 ver. of PX1 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/105810
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/23 01:21:43
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dougal0614 Back on top of the stock cooler scores in PR! 2280mhz core clock. +205 on the core. Tried +210 but couldn’t get it to go. Bout as high as I can go I think without having to go sub zero cooling.
I think I have a damn good chip but noticed recently that my OLED is stuck at 300mhz for gpu clock and 405mhz mem clock.....anyone else had this problem?? Running 3.19 ver. of PX1 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/105810
Must be pretty darn cool in your house unless you're running ac duct to your radiator.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE!
2019/06/23 01:25:35
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Yeah I find 2280 on stock cooler hard to believe without dunking it in dry ice or shoving it onto an air con.
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