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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 10:40:44 (permalink)
What I will try to do is set the curve in afterburner and then open px1 and the curve will carry over into it and the other settings. But at that point with the osd barely working ea time what's the point?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 13:53:28 (permalink)
Some Odd New findings between Single Card and Running in SLI.
Running Driver 430.53, you would think that the SLI Run would be higher in all areas of the Benchmark.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/7092464/spy/7092617 DX 12
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/13290497/3dm11/13290491 DX11
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:07:39 (permalink)
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Some Odd New findings between Single Card and Running in SLI.
Running Driver 430.53, you would think that the SLI Run would be higher in all areas of the Benchmark.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/7092464/spy/7092617 DX 12
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/13290497/3dm11/13290491 DX11

You should really get a 7980xe or w3175x for sli configs, x8 bandwidth is just meh
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:13:29 (permalink)
Why the tiny core clock on the cards?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:16:28 (permalink)
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Why the tiny core clock on the cards?

Cards are at Stock Settings.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:17:35 (permalink)
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Some Odd New findings between Single Card and Running in SLI.
Running Driver 430.53, you would think that the SLI Run would be higher in all areas of the Benchmark.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/7092464/spy/7092617 DX 12
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/13290497/3dm11/13290491 DX11

You should really get a 7980xe or w3175x for sli configs, x8 bandwidth is just meh

They are on an x16 Bandwidth

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:31:53 (permalink)
Found another ~100+ FSX points in my back pocket.
 
FSX HOF #22 - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19242940

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:33:04 (permalink)
Oh my bad but still...

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:43:21 (permalink)
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Found another ~100+ FSX points in my back pocket.
 
FSX HOF #22 - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19242940


https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19242940/fs/19130967/fs/19226394/fs/19179747 Still Odd about G2
Still looking for the Sweet Spot
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19242410/fs/19242313/fs/19241845/fs/19241780/fs/19241554/fs/19240896/fs/19240621/fs/19232057/fs/19232006/fs/19231975/fs/19231949/fs/19231905
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 14:59:27 (permalink)
@Bcav
 
I had my heart set on 2200mhz from the get go and it was a real struggle to let it go (Mental hurdle). As I felt like I was already compromising @ 2190...
 
(hint) It appears this method may be the only way to taken advantage of the so called "Better power limit" that is until we break the cards down for DICE/LN2 or at least the chilled hydrocopper.
 
(hint2) if you make an adjustment and get a GT1/GT2 crash. Give it about 3 goes. My KPE is slow to adjust and I have decided to not make a change until a test fails 3 times. More often than not the KPE passes on 2nd or 3rd try after a voltage bump and stays stable for a decent amount of time.
 
However it definitely was satisfying watching a low clock scale with voltage bumps as is part of my SOP.
 
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Nice scores. Seeing you up on the HOF's got me motivated to check out the new but broken driver 430 or w/e it is.
 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 15:07:50 (permalink)
(Mental Hurdle) I may have it as well as a lot of other KP Owners May.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 15:40:52 (permalink)
And it all done matter cause scores are higher at lower clocks.

Was the same for the ftw3 as well but it was clearly hitting power limit. My kingpin seems like its using way less voltage on idle and load and I have to crank the voltage to get it to actually use what I set.

Wish I could take a GPU voltage reading from the ftw3 to see if it's the same or better.. since it always ran high on power makes me think it was using higher voltage on load
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 17:13:48 (permalink)
I just got my Kingpin and finished installing it. Big card, plus a hybrid cooler. Yikes. I did not enjoy that installation. Maybe I need a new case...

anywho

Do other people really think that having the power at the end of the card was a good idea? Personally it made the installation even worse for me. I know, to each their own.

So far the card itself runs cool, has more features than anyone could ever use, so I guess I’m pretty happy. I’ve just never had a graphics card be such a butt to install.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 17:20:05 (permalink)
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I just got my Kingpin and finished installing it. Big card, plus a hybrid cooler. Yikes. I did not enjoy that installation. Maybe I need a new case...

anywho

Do other people really think that having the power at the end of the card was a good idea? Personally it made the installation even worse for me. I know, to each their own.

So far the card itself runs cool, has more features than anyone could ever use, so I guess I’m pretty happy. I’ve just never had a graphics card be such a butt to install.

Yep! but why some get this EVGA PowerLink

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 17:21:44 (permalink)
@AHowes
like 20mv less? at idle or more? Part of that NVVDD adjustment is that it is a little indirect in its functionality. NVVDD X voltage
equals ~ 20mv less on DMM for me and then depending on the load I would imagine the offset is linear. Don't forget to account for the LLC variable. I probably have enough data to gain visibility and certainty regarding the matter but am comfortable. One could to a point remove LLC if they were more comfortable with less variance between NVVDD, LCD CPUV, and probe-it DMM read outs.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 20:43:13 (permalink)
I love that kingpin just for that classified tool! All that customization over the normal cards.. sign me up every release!!

Can you dig it! Is what it should say at the top of the app!

Haha

Yeah too many beers but K|NGT|N FTW All day every day!

Sign me up for the FTW T|N edition!

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 22:55:18 (permalink)
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I love that kingpin just for that classified tool! All that customization over the normal cards.. sign me up every release!!

Can you dig it! Is what it should say at the top of the app!

Haha

Yeah too many beers but K|NGT|N FTW All day every day!

Sign me up for the FTW T|N edition!



Even sober me agrees with this. 10 out of 10

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/04 23:19:20 (permalink)
What i do know is I don't know what I thought I knew. Knowing this now is not much help. +10*C  ambient turned this card into a terd.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 10:52:44 (permalink)
Congrats you have completed step 1.  Reconciliation and acceptance of ones ignorance.
 
Moving on to Step 2. Methodical testing of component without injecting bias or assumption

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 10:56:13 (permalink)
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Congrats you have completed step 1.  Reconciliation and acceptance of ones ignorance.
 
Moving on to Step 2. Methodical testing of component without injecting bias or assumption


LMAO
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 11:35:12 (permalink)
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Congrats you have completed step 1.  Reconciliation and acceptance of ones ignorance.
 
Moving on to Step 2. Methodical testing of component without injecting bias or assumption


Thank you...this will be in my sig
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 12:08:16 (permalink)
"Methodical testing of component without injecting bias or assumption"
Injecting Bias or Assumptions seems to be a Priority for those that do not own the Component in the first place, just my Bias Assumption on the topic in hand.
But I guess that is what a Forum is for in the end.
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 13:05:43 (permalink)
PSA
 
Ok I got fed up with a PX1 bug. Sometimes PX1 bugs out and you will find that NVVDD slider with Classified tool does not change Voltages even at the NVVDD Probe-it -DMM. During the bug condition This behavior is prevalent regardless of position of PX1 voltage slider which would typically be at the 100 % position...
 
Originally I was not sure what was causing this. Bug may be related to NV control.
 
Uninstalling PX1 entirely by
running uninstaller
deleting relevant folders
 
rebooting
and reinstalling appears not resolve the issue.
 
msconfig - Safemode
DDU
reinstall NVIDIA drivers
Appears to resolve issue.
 
Still have not identified what triggers this bug
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 13:07:27 (permalink)
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PSA
 
Ok I got to the bottom of PX1 bug. Sometimes PX1 bugs out and you will find that NVVDD slider with Classified tool does not change Voltages even at the NVVDD Probe-it -DMM. During the bug condition This behavior is prevalent regardless of position of PX1 voltage slider which would typically be at the 100 % position...
 
Originally I was not sure what was causing this. Bug may be related to NV control.
 
Uninstalling PX1 entirely by
running uninstaller
deleting relevant folders
 
rebooting
and reinstalling appears not resolve the issue.
 
msconfig - Safemode
DDU
reinstall NVIDIA drivers
Appears to resolve issue.
 
Still have not identified what triggers this bug
 
 
 


PX1 has always been buggy, why do you think they have about 20 'beta' updates for it? Afterburner has worked out of the box with no issues at all since day one, not to mention PX1 has an absolute trash osd system lol
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 13:16:30 (permalink)
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PSA
 
Ok I got fed up with a PX1 bug. Sometimes PX1 bugs out and you will find that NVVDD slider with Classified tool does not change Voltages even at the NVVDD Probe-it -DMM. During the bug condition This behavior is prevalent regardless of position of PX1 voltage slider which would typically be at the 100 % position...
 
Originally I was not sure what was causing this. Bug may be related to NV control.
 
Uninstalling PX1 entirely by
running uninstaller
deleting relevant folders
 
rebooting
and reinstalling appears not resolve the issue.
 
msconfig - Safemode
DDU
reinstall NVIDIA drivers
Appears to resolve issue.
 
Still have not identified what triggers this bug

With what NVIDIA Driver are you seeing this?

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 13:16:44 (permalink)
I am deep into the PX1 bug and I can't find my way out. Tell my family I <3 them...

I use AB for anything but a KPE

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 13:20:10 (permalink)
425.30
417.19
419.35
430.59
 
I am sure this is what some of the over bencher's were describing in multiple threads. I ran into it Day 1 but was too stupid to explain it then and haven't got any smarter...
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 14:12:19 (permalink)
Is a 1050w PSU enough for one kingpin that's going to be kept in hybrid mode and used for gaming and water cooled benching?

Or am I better off with a ftw hybrid
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 14:31:35 (permalink)
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Is a 1050w PSU enough for one kingpin that's going to be kept in hybrid mode and used for gaming and water cooled benching?

Or am I better off with a ftw hybrid


Ftw3 hybrid = small 120 rad. Kingpin has twice the rad and I have not heard anyone mention loud pumps or any issue with cooling. Ftw3 hybrids plenty of reports of high temps and loud pumps.

If you can get a kingpin get a kingpin.. maybe a ftw3 if you can use a hydro copper cooler though.

Kingpin can use up to 520watts I hear.. rated for 360watts. Try it with the psu first. If not then upgrade to a 1200-1300 watt psu.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/05/05 14:32:05 (permalink)
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Is a 1050w PSU enough for one kingpin that's going to be kept in hybrid mode and used for gaming and water cooled benching?

Or am I better off with a ftw hybrid

Yes, But I would make sure it is a Gold or Higher Rating.

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