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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:04:21
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If your power slider is able to go to 120% then you're on the LN2 vbios. Using the LN2 vbios doesn't make the card use more power. You gotta overclock to hit the 520w limit.
I have done it and still the same problem.
I put the power slider to the max 121% and overclock memory and gpu.
In gpu-z I can see there is power limit for getting higher frequency and the max number of power draw is 426w while benching or gaming.
Something else I'm missing for not getting the 520w?
Yeah, to hit the 520w limit you have to push the card with the classified controller.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:06:33
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I’ve noticed that the frequency is higher for temps <50. I thought gpus were good till 80 degrees? I wonder why the bios down locks so aggressively for temps that should be safe.
The frequency bins (15MHz each) drop down a bin at certain C intervals - starting at 43 or 45C with the 30 series. It's normal, and has been part of GPU Boost since it's very first use (600 series?) It's a bonus based on temperature, power limits, voltage limits, all combined in a mystical formula to give you extra performance over the base clocks.
The cards will start protecting themselves with true thermal throttling somewhere around 81 to 91C (depending on what you set it for in AB/PX1), where your card will throttle down below even the base 3090 clock rate (1395 IIRC) to save itself.
True thermal throttling doesn’t occur until exceeding max safe operating temps. For a 3090 that is 93c.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:09:47
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If your power slider is able to go to 120% then you're on the LN2 vbios. Using the LN2 vbios doesn't make the card use more power. You gotta overclock to hit the 520w limit.
I have done it and still the same problem.
I put the power slider to the max 121% and overclock memory and gpu.
In gpu-z I can see there is power limit for getting higher frequency and the max number of power draw is 426w while benching or gaming.
Something else I'm missing for not getting the 520w?
Yeah, to hit the 520w limit you have to push the card with the classified controller.
Ok there is something I was missing then. What is and where can I get this classified controller? Does it void warranty?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:12:56
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The classified controller allows you to adjust the voltages on the card. It could void your warranty if evga is able to prove you broke your card via excessive voltages.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:14:46
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:14:47
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The classified controller allows you to adjust the voltages on the card. It could void your warranty if evga is able to prove you broke your card via excessive voltages.
Thank you Sajin. So better be careful and slow with this controller. Where can I get it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:16:02
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The classified controller allows you to adjust the voltages on the card. It could void your warranty if evga is able to prove you broke your card via excessive voltages.
Thank you Sajin.
So better be careful and slow with this controller.
Where can I get it?
See above post.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:17:27
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The classified controller allows you to adjust the voltages on the card. It could void your warranty if evga is able to prove you broke your card via excessive voltages.
Thank you Sajin.
So better be careful and slow with this controller.
Where can I get it?
See above post.
Thanks a lot. Is there a manual-guide for it? I want to be extremely careful.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:30:57
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:41:02
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No, there isn’t.
Ok thank you. I'll have a look. Only a couple questions more. 1) where can we get this classified controller in the case there is an update of it? 2) I bought new fans for the radiator and I want to put them into the motherboard because they will get more wattage. Do I have to leave them at a speed fixed? Cause the motherboard can't read the gpu temp I guess.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 11:58:11
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1. The one I linked will be the only one for the 3090 kingpin.
2. I would.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 18:14:29
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If your power slider is able to go to 120% then you're on the LN2 vbios. Using the LN2 vbios doesn't make the card use more power. You gotta overclock to hit the 520w limit.
My power slider only goes up to 112 on ln2 bios.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2020/12/31 18:31:45
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If your power slider is able to go to 120% then you're on the LN2 vbios. Using the LN2 vbios doesn't make the card use more power. You gotta overclock to hit the 520w limit.
My power slider only goes up to 112 on ln2 bios.
Mine is stuck at 105% with the LN2 bios.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/01 11:52:17
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Mine is also stuck to 105 on ln2. What gives? OC bios i had 112. Normal was 105. One difference I see is with ln2 bios Im never hitting VOp anymore.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/01 12:58:47
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Mine is also stuck to 105 on ln2. What gives? OC bios i had 112. Normal was 105. One difference I see is with ln2 bios Im never hitting VOp anymore.
What I did to fix the issue, was I uninstalled 1.1.4, used ccleaner. Installed 1.1.3, suddenly I had 120%, uninstalled 1.1.3 and reinstalled 1.1.4. Seems to be a-ok now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/01 13:03:21
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What a **** show PX1 is. Seriously.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/01 23:13:25
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Anybody know what thermal paste they are using for the card? Avoids the warranty to replace it for Grizzly Kryonaut? Unless they are using kingpin thermal paste.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 00:04:14
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Anybody know what thermal paste they are using for the card? Avoids the warranty to replace it for Grizzly Kryonaut? Unless they are using kingpin thermal paste.
You can use whatever thermal paste you want and not void warranty. But liquid metal might void it because of stain/discoloration.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 00:07:56
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Anybody know what thermal paste they are using for the card? Avoids the warranty to replace it for Grizzly Kryonaut? Unless they are using kingpin thermal paste.
You can use whatever thermal paste you want and not void warranty. But liquid metal might void it because of stain/discoloration.
Very good then. Do you know what thermal paste and pads are they using?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 00:15:53
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Anybody know what thermal paste they are using for the card? Avoids the warranty to replace it for Grizzly Kryonaut? Unless they are using kingpin thermal paste.
You can use whatever thermal paste you want and not void warranty. But liquid metal might void it because of stain/discoloration.
Very good then.
Do you know what thermal paste and pads are they using?
Nope have no idea about that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 00:54:41
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Hope this link works. I finally got my card put in after 3 weeks. I had to get a new case and just got it done today. I can't seem to get the power limit up. I think I'm stuck at around 420 max in gpu z is 438. I'm using AB as I don' usually use PX1. I did NOT do a firmware update. This run was PL set to 104% in AB on the LN2 BIOS (still don't think it's applying) +150 on core, nothing on mem. GPU Z is showing power limit the entire time with occasional VREL, VOP. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/56028913? EDIT: I got it to work.
post edited by Cadillac94pimpin - 2021/01/02 01:35:49
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 02:08:45
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Getting there. My Perf cap is now almost all Vrel. It does not seem to like anything over +160 core but will run 160 without crashing. 165 is insta crash at the start. Score is still going up at +1200 mem. This is without the classified tool. I know my memory (RAM) being at 3200 does not help and my CPU is not OC'd. I'm using the Steam version of 3D Mark. Also have some things running in the background. I will work on those things and work on classified. Card is beast in games too. I hear a little buzz when under load but it's not bad, the fans are louder plus I have all the glass off the case. http://www.3dmark.com/pr/728273
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 07:38:31
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My KPE RMA card is worse than my first card. First card freezes intermittently, while this one freezes anytime I try to run a game or benchmark that is video intensive. How long until this company goes out of business with this shoddy quality control? This is the second generation of cards in a row I've had terrible issues with from evga. 2080Ti cards also had horrendous quality control.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 07:56:33
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I had no qualms against posting about my rotten experiences with quality control on the BBB and Trust Pilot. If I find more review sites, I will be more than happy to post my 1 star reviews. Please, if you have suggestions on where to review EVGA online, please let me know. I had a similar experience with the 2080Ti cards where they kept sending me cards with issues. I thought I would give a second chance because that is remarkable customer service to keep sending replacements, but now I just think they should be putting that effort into a better product. The best customer service is the customer service you never need. If one person says you are a horse, laugh it off. If a second person says you are a horse, maybe buy a mirror. If a third person tells you that you are a horse, better just buy a saddle. Time to buy a saddle EVGA...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/02 18:11:02
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2) I bought new fans for the radiator and I want to put them into the motherboard because they will get more wattage. Do I have to leave them at a speed fixed? Cause the motherboard can't read the gpu temp I guess.
I grabbed a Corsair Commander Pro and hooked all my fans up to that. Uses a spare USB 2.0 header on your mobo, but allows you to set a curve using GPU temp. It also comes with temp probes, which I monitor (GPU RAD Exhaust, intake, etc.) and you can create curves for any temp/sensor you want. Great addition to my KPE!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/03 11:23:53
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Any chance EVGA gives up a 750 ln2 bios?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/03 11:38:23
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Any chance EVGA gives up a 750 ln2 bios?
Your sure asking for alot now, but probably chance of slim and none
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/03 11:55:46
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haha might keep the less knowledged from using the 1000w the 3090 kpe hits 520 cap even seen 569w all day long still keeping great temps shame there isn't a 750w one
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/03 12:29:28
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haha might keep the less knowledged from using the 1000w the 3090 kpe hits 520 cap even seen 569w all day long still keeping great temps shame there isn't a 750w one
Yeah I understand what you're saying. Not very often we see someone asking for a lower bios then what's offered.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.)
2021/01/05 10:01:07
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I just checked the que list and it looks like im about 35 ish cards away from mine!! I am looking for the real ln2 bios, I'm in the process of getting my actual ln2 bench setup up and ready for the card the moment it arrives. Would like to have the vbios ready to throw onto the card, so could anyone point me in the right direction?
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